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Достоинства: Об этом кронштейне написано много лестных отзывов - присоединяюсь, но есть одно но с монтажом. Недостатки: Постараюсь обратить внимание на одну особенность.
Один мужик на сайте производителей этого кронштейна писал, что на кирпичную стену крепить проблемно и советовал крепить не на предложенный ими крепеж (дюбеля на 10х7х60, шурупы 7), а на 4-х секционные анкера. Менеджеры, в комментах, ему ответили, что у нас все просчитано и на нагрузку с большим запасом. Я на это и купился.
Условия: стена в квартире хрущ, не несущая в 1.5 кирпича - 1962 г.п. и строили где кирпич, а где и раствор. Итог разметил - молодцы, в комплект идет симпатичный и практичный уровень! Перфоратором - буром на 10 сделал отверстия, вогнал дюбеля и потом используя головку на 12 или 14 (не помню) шуруповертом стал вворачивать шурупы и конечно провернулись 3 штуки из 6. Вытащил и стал думать что делать. Насечки на дюбелях слизало вчистую и отверстия раздолбаны. Отчасти виноват я, отчасти инструкция. В ней должно быть четко указано, что идущие в комплект дюбеля для бетона.
При монтаже в слабой кирпичной стене советую поступить так. Профи конечно смешно, но я на этом погорел:
Разметку делать очень точно. Наметить метчиком, точно по центру, маленьким сверлом по бетону немного засверлить. Не буром, а сверлом по кирпичу на 10 аккуратно (не делая движений "всунул-вынул" :-) и не отклоняясь от оси сделать отверстия дрелью, перфоратором получится плохо. Продуть грушкой (клизмой) каждое отверстие, забить аккуратно дюбеля. Смазать шуруп тех. вазелином, или литолом и закручивать вручную (без шурика) торцевой отверткой с надетой головкой для данного шурупа. Закручивать очень "нежно", до конца и без кронштейна. На последнем этапе "упереться" в стену, но не провернуть дюбель. Потом открутить все шурупы, приложить кронштейн и также аккуратно закрутить притянув кронштейн к стене не провернув в ней дюбеля. Получилось - здорово. Комментарий: Если случилось, как у меня - провернулись в рыхлом кирпиче дюбеля, тогда: Я не стал применять анкера - побоялся, что лапки анкеров размелят кирпич и начнут тоже проворачиваться. Поступил так. В Леруа Мерлен купил немецкие (может патент) дюбеля 12х60 и там еще и шурупы. По 2 шт. в упаковке и стоило что-то вроде 110 или 120 руб. упаковка. Их фишка в том, что дюбель при вкручивании шурупа раздувается в центральной части, а на краях вылазят ламели и надежно его фиксируют в рыхлом кирпиче. Я пробовал вставлять наши, китайские, какие-то импортные дюбеля на 10 в отверстие, а они там болтаются и тогда вставил эти немецкие на 12, смазал шурупы и закрутил - еле силы хватило. Потом выкрутил и уже прикрутил кронштейн - на нем теперь отжиматься можно. И головка шестигранная лучше держит кронштейн чем штатная, она просто больше и массивнее.
Да еще не ошибитесь с верхом и низом - это мой ляп, там нарисовано, но мелко, пришлось переставить.
В инструкции также написано, что вешать кронштейн надо на капитальные стены, но иногда приходится на межкомнатные, как в моем случае и тогда советую немецкие наборы (дюбель + шуруп с шестигранной головкой). Еще раз уточняю. Раздолбанное отверстие на 10 принимает немецкий дюбель на 12 и держит хорошо. Еще в одной дырке получилось штатный дюбель на 10 плотно сидит, но штатный шуруп на 7 плотно не держит, взял побольше шуруп из этого немецкого набора и тоже встал очень плотно. На фото все постараюсь показать. Других вариантов дюбелей перепробовал много - не держат.
20 декабря 2025
Достоинства: кронштейн, который превзошёл мои ожидания, но я ожидал, что он будет хорош!
да, может мой случай и не самый сложный, требовалось повесить 43" на стену, а диван сбоку. по этой причине выбор был, естественно, сделан в пользу поворотного кронштейна. Комментарий: собственно, это третий кронштейн onkron в доме: первые два - для мониторов на рабочем столе, которыми я доволен на все 💯. по этой причине выбор настенного кронштейна для телека был очевиден, я был уверен в качестве материалов, крепежа и качестве изготовления.
отдельно был приятно удивлён трафаретом для удобства разметки места на стене. ну, и мимимишный уровень, конечно, тоже порадовал 😊.
Приятно, что комплектный крепёж достойного качества.
очень хорошая инструкция.
Честно скажу, очень доволен производителем!
Спасибо!
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