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+ Очень чуткая клавиатура, куча настроек, клавиши работают без нареканий
+ Матово-сатиновые клавиши, пальцы не скользят, играть приятно
+ Ощущения от игры нереальные, на уровне с акустическим инструментом (что бы там ни говорили ненавистники цифровых пианино)
+ Настройки через приложение невероятно удобные, но и через функции на клавишах вполне интуитивно понятно
+ Мягкий и удобный ход педалей
+ Отлично выглядит в интерьере, привлекает взгляды гостей
+ Думала, что всякие штуки, вроде демпферных призвуков, режимов крышки и прочего — ерунда, но нет, реально слышно разницу
Недостатки:
- Пыль собирает лучше, чем пылесос
- Проводное подключение к телефону — ну такое. Приложение работает хорошо, но это реально неудобно. Плюс выход для провода находится в месте, куда тяжко добраться. Насколько удобное гнездо для флешки — настолько же неудобный выход для шнура. Еще и USB-B.
- Крышка поднимается удобно и легко, а складывается ужасно неудобно, постоянно приходится в такие моменты заглядывать туда и искать эту регулировочную ножку
- Тембров можно было б и побольше. В серии Celviano модель с количеством тембров проигрывает по характеристикам клавиш и настройкам, к сожалению.
Комментарий:
В целом, ни один минус для меня не критичен. Обрабатываю антистатиком, провод для приложения кинула сзади и зацепила под пюпитром, крышкой не пользуюсь (выставила режим, который и без нее устраивает), для разных тембров можно использовать подключение через пк как миди-клавиатуру. За свои деньги (брала в ноябре 2021, когда оно стоило 100к, со скидкой за 73) — просто шедевр, обожаю этот инструмент, с удовольствием каждый раз за него сажусь.
Скажите , пжлст, на сколько клавиатура "жесткая", чтобы потом без проблем садиться за акустический инструмент. Т.е. мне не нужна ""легкая" клавиатура...
Скажите , пжлст, на сколько клавиатура "жесткая", чтобы потом без проблем садиться за акустический инструмент. Т.е. мне не нужна ""легкая" клавиатура...
хороший, естественный и чистый звук, все необходимые функции, качественный кабинетный корпус. Цена!
Недостатки:
уровень громкости при записи на флешку реально низковат. Если вы хотите записывать свою игру и потом её слушать – без дополнительного увеличения громкости на компьютере не обойтись.
Комментарий:
перешёл на AP-470 со своего старичка Roland FP-30. В нём не устраивали уже и звучание, и клавиатура (два сенсора против трёх у Касио, как выяснилось), "электронная" окраска послезвучий в интервалах и не самые достоверные затухания на мой слух (все равно, это лучший звук за сравнимые деньги), - Неотключаемый "растянутый" строй (если это кому то важно). Ну и хотелось уже купить классический “кабинетник”, а не компакт.
Изначально хотел обновиться на пианино Роланд, но поиграл на новых инструментах и понял, что зря я последние 5 лет проходил мимо музыкальных магазинов. Да, все производители серьезно подтянули и семплы и вычислительные возможности в новых пианино, ну и цены, к сожалению) Если вы делаете выводы о качестве и особенностях звучания по моделям, которые выпускались много лет назад – поиграйте на новых и вы будете также приятно удивлены.
Мой вывод: Увы, понравившийся мне Роланд HP серии оказался вообще недосягаемым для меня. НО! По качеству звучания и раскрытию возможностей туше исполнителя, AP-470 головы на 2 выше не только своих более старых Celviano собратьев, но множества других даже более дорогих марок. В AP помимо шикарного звука оказалось привлекает мобильное приложение для учёбы (я пока не знаю, другим способом можно привлечь ребенка к фортепиано.
Клавиатура - хорошо сбалансированная. Для моих занятий это важно и серьезно упрощает штриховую игру - тремоло, стаккато, легато. В общем, всё то, что так хотят услышать наши преподаватели красиво исполненным.
- дешевле, чем аналоги
- молоточковая клавиатура, подходит для обучения
- хороший звук
Недостатки:
- требует специальных кабелей для подключения к планшету или мобильнику (OTG)
- нет зарядки по кабелю для мобильника, поэтому приходится отключать и заряжать отдельно
- на наушники нужен переходник с 6 на 3.5мм, и они разные и надо подбирать.
- корпус стойки - фанерка, а не массив.
Комментарий:
Изначально хотел взять Roland HP740. Знакомая купила себе Kawai CN29. Потом насмотрелся рекламы от Casio, и жена хотела белый. И Casio был в наличии, а остальные надо было ждать. И в условиях карантина было непонятно - будут ли вообще возить их. Или будут продавать то, что уже есть на складах. В общем купил эту. Вроде как старшая модель к своем классе.
Остальные начинались от 300тыс.
Сравнил с Kawai. По звуку он может даже чуть лучше (колоритнее) чем эта. Но Casio возможно натуральнее. И управление все с одной стороны - слева, а там кнопочки в одной стороне, а вкл и громкость с другой - не привычно.
Клавиатура на Kawai чуть мягче чем тут. Но и на акустических она разная бывает.
Жена пока довольна. А ребенок пока совсем маленький. Возможно к моменту начала обучения все ее уделает - белое ж. А лет через 5 может что-то еще появится - еще на порядок лучше ;)
Евгений, спросите , пжлст, жену, насколько клавиатура "жесткая"? Мне не нужна "легкая " клавиатура, т.к. мне электронный нужен разучивать сложные вещи в наушниках, чтобы не ставить на уши два подъезда))), а все, что уже прилично звучит, я играю на акустике .
Евгений, спросите , пжлст, жену, насколько клавиатура "жесткая"? Мне не нужна "легкая " клавиатура, т.к. мне электронный нужен разучивать сложные вещи в наушниках, чтобы не ставить на уши два подъезда))), а все, что уже прилично звучит, я играю на акустике .
Внешний вид - выглядит дорого
Механика - очень реалистичные ощущения от игры
Открывающаяся крышка - как способ управления резонансом
Управление настройками через приложение - проще чем с кнопок, и уже как бы должно быть стандартом.
Недостатки:
Мощность акустической системы слегка не дотягивает.
Отсутсвие возможности подключения приложения по Bluetooth - планшет подключать по проводу в 22 году….
Клавиши люфтят по горизонтальной оси чуть больше чем хотелось бы.
Не очень удобный способ закрывание крышки «резонатора» нужно приловчится закрывать, особенно когда стоит комплектный пюпитр, он слегка закрывает механизм закрытия крышки. Очень не продуманно.
Комментарий:
За свои деньги (160к) кажется что могло быть и чуточку лучше всё, но увы, это новые реалии, и за такие деньги лучше не купить.
Качественное и современное цифровое фортепиано с отличными (реалистичными) тембрами, приятной тяжелой клавиатурой и всё это в классическом дизайне и за отличную цену.
Недостатки:
При записи игры на USB-флешку хотелось бы повыше громкость, а в комнате звучание наоборот показалось слишком громким ( в магазине так не казалось). Так что верхнюю крышку открываем (звук ярче), а ручку громкости ставим на середину.
Комментарий:
планировали приобретение инструмента до 100-110 тысяч, но хотелось, конечно, сэкономить - поэтому смотрели также инструменты подешевле. Выбирали между Casio AP-470 (и 700); Kawai CA48; Roland RP102, Yamaha CLP 635, YDP-163.
Главное впечатление: AP-470 понравился по звуку сразу (и жене, и мне), причем больше всех и при этом оказался еще и одним из самых недорогих.
Если вы не ориентируетесь в линейках фортепиано Casio, то, для понимания, AP-470 - это предпоследняя ступенька (ещё есть AP-700 за 110+ тысяч) . Но, AP-700 был выпущен года 2 назад, и хоть там и заявлен более совершенный звуковой процессор, но проиграв несколько произведений на первом и на втором инструментах, значительной разницы я не ощутил.
Вообще мы ждали от более дорогих инструментов чего то большего. Но где то жене клавиатура не понравилась, где то звук очень неестественный, слишком чувствуются ограничения семплов.
Итого: это сейчас одно лучших ДОМАШНИХ, стационарных фортепиано (для играющего и понимающего в звуке) за бюджет в пределах 80-110 тыс.
Звук отличный! По ощущениям неотличимо от настоящего инструмента! Оказалось, что в комплекте еще и банкетка)
Для наушников удобное крепление под клавиатурой. Вывод звука в наушники - спасение для соседей, а для играющего - звук такой же хороший. Курьеры доставили прямо до квартиры. Собирается быстро и легко!
Недостатки:
никаких
Комментарий:
Пюпитр можно убрать и поставить на верхнюю крышку ноутбук с нотами
Значительно компактнее настоящего пианино
Не знаю уж, первое это впечатление или я давненько не ходила по музыкальным магазинам (скорее и первое и второе в совокупности), но то, что предлагает рынок сейчас – абсолютный восторг.
Мне пришлось искать новый инструмент более продвинутого уровня, поэтому взялась за поиск.
Смотрела и на Ямаху, и на Роланд, и на Каваи, и на малоизвестные бренды, в итоге всё ж остановилась на КАСИО, на данной модели. Молоточковая механика, три педали – всё как у акустики. Звук тоже близок, к слову, но стоит отметить, что и без цифровых наворотов оно не было б тем, какое есть.
Движок оч мощный, прогрессивный, отличное сэмплирование звуков + 22 звука, широкая полифония (не помню скольки голосая) Очень классное приложение, специальное от Касио, которое можно скачать. Очень помогает при знакомстве с инструментом. Ещё конечно радуют такие формальности, как запись произведений и использование инструмента как просто колонку.
Добрый день! Скажите, пожалуйста, какие впечатления от инструмента спустя год?
Добрый день! Скажите, пожалуйста, какие впечатления от инструмента спустя год?
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