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Износостойкость, прочность.
Была куплена вместе с машиной - 2011 год.
Последний сезон 2019 - год.
Недостатки:
Хотел купить новый комплект... Но ценник! Мамма! Миа.
Мишлен ну вы барыги, что тут скажешь. Хотя удачная, мда.
Жестковата наверно, но тут субъективно - мне нормально было.
Гундосить достаточно сильно начинает в конце эксплуатации.
Комментарий:
Машина Киа сид. Размер 205/55/R16 91V. Суммарный пробег на авто - почти 200 тыс. Зима стоит 3-я, а лето только сейчас поменял. Пробег на Мишлене - примерно 100 - 120.
Грыж не было, хотя диски править пришлось. Ездил хммм.. везде, в т.ч. по таким дорогам , где присоска навигатора отлетает.
Не Шумахер - без резких стартов, максималка до 130 - редко. Больше по городу и кад 70 - 100.
Износ - до маркеров, т.е. канавку видно, но уже опасно. Впрочем последний сезон доходила нормально, только шуму больше стало.
По мокрой дороге ... ну есть опаска после 80-90 км/ч, что на глубокой луже при входе всплывешь... но как-то полноценно не попадался. Сразу чувствуешь, что начинаешь - и просто педаль отпускаешь, все становится в норме.
Тормозит хорошо (иногда даже слишком - у других покрышки оказалась чуть хуже))), разгоняется тоже.
Не сказал бы, что есть валкость - все таки жесткая резина достаточно.
Итого: еще раз купил бы, но дорого.
Сбалансирована, тормозит и рулится, по сухому и мокрому асфальту хорошо. Есть вопрос по аквапланированию, но он скорее для ололо, которые в ливень едут на 140 . Поведение без резких сюрпризов. Когда что-то начинается - всегда успеваешь почувствовать и сбросить скорость. Не подводила короче.
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Антон, добрый день! Рады, что вы остались довольны шинами MICHELIN :)
Шины MICHELIN обеспечивают высокий уровень безопасности и являются одними из лучших в износостойкости по сравнению с конкурентами. Экономия времени и денежных средств обеспечивается за счет того, что замена шин происходит только при максимальном уровне износа. Ценовое позиционирование находится на уровне основных конкурентов (в идентичном типоразмере есть и дороже, и дешевле).
Антон, добрый день! Рады, что вы остались довольны шинами MICHELIN :)
Шины MICHELIN обеспечивают высокий уровень безопасности и являются одними из лучших в износостойкости по сравнению с конкурентами. Экономия времени и денежных средств обеспечивается за счет того, что замена шин происходит только при максимальном уровне износа. Ценовое позиционирование находится на уровне основных конкурентов (в идентичном типоразмере есть и дороже, и дешевле).
Вообщем достались новыми с машиной, немецкая. Думал сразу менять на другие, но дела и нехватка времени склонили меня покататься на ней уже как второй сезон, и даже уже конец сезона ,но я её уже сменил, ибо терпеть их уже нет сил. Такое впечатление,что я на уазике еду,а не на бмв 11 года.
За 20к пробега как была так и осталась, словно каменная. Все кто говорят ,что она тихая, они просто не знают тихой резины, и мягкой так же.
Для тех кто в теме про покрышки, эти мишки енерджи просто адски шумят, а по мягкости они как ранфлэты-причём хуже. По сути эти покрышки изготавливались как экономичные к топливу и не более.
Если говорить про более менее комфорт, то это мишки примаси хп.
Могу посоветовать только так, их можно ставить на машину если Ваш размер не превышает 185 ширины, или если Вы ищите накатистые покрышки и Вам плевать на шум и их дубовость. Но даже так, я бы уже лучше взял ранфлэты мишки примаси ц3.
К итогу, это покрышки не для комфорта пятой точки, а для агрессивной езда. Они хороши в управляемости на 5+, торможении на 5++, на воде и в дождь на 5+, не так уж быстро стираются( вовремя меняйте их местами с ведущими , прослужат долго ) 5+. Но их шумность подкрадывается по шкале в самый топ шумных колёс на 2 балла тянут еле еле, и их дубовость так же в топе, уступая только рамфлэтам на 1 бал вовсе.
Много лет пользуюсь этой резиной (нынешняя и предыдущая машина, с завода были укомплектованы этими шинами) . Хорошо держат дорогу, обладают высокой износостойкостью, легко балансируются, прекрасное торможение, не склонны к аквапланированию (если конечно не гнать в ливень под 160 км.). Некоторые пишут про слабые боковины, не знаю, не считаю, что это так, по мне нормально. При адекватной езде и если следить за рекомендованным давлением, проходят долго.
Недостатки:
Цена. Немного шумноваты на отдельных типах асфальта, но не критично.
Комментарий:
В целом хорошие шины, можно смело рекомендовать к приобретению. За более чем тринадцатилетнюю эксплуатацию, шин этой модели, проблем с ними не возникало.
Износостойкость, хорошая управляемость, короткий тормозной путь.
Недостатки:
Очень слабая боковина, нежная прям. На каждой из 4-ки свои шрамы и латки. Жесткая. Если подвеска крутая многорычажная, то отлично. Если минивен или бюджетный седанчик, балка-пружина, то гремит на каждом стыке асфальта. Дубовенькая в общем.
Комментарий:
Использую уже 6-й сезон. Наездил в общем 100 000. большую половину соответственно на этой летней мишлен энерджи сейвер 195/65/15. 3 из 4-х колес было подвержено ударам, на одном грыжа от ямы (удар был сильный - аморт сломался и диск легкосплавный отломился 5 см внутреннего бортика, паяли), латаная, ходит уже с грыжей 2,5 года. 2 подгулявших колеса кинул назад. глубина протектора у обоих уже 30%. Запаску и самое лучшее из 4-ки поставил впереди. Сегодня порвал переднее правое об бордюр. Порез длинный и ближе к диску. говорят в мусорник. Жалко. Я бы ещё это лето докатал и следующее. В общем на 60 000 точно хватит. Вот колеблюсь сейчас брать новую или нет. Потому что мне эта досталась насильно новая из салона при покупки авто. Хотелось бы мягче в плане езды. Сделано в Англии. Если бы не сегодняшний случай, думаю 7 сезонов точно, 8-й ваще под лыску!
Очень посредственно держит колею на скорости свыше 100 км/ч. Приходится проявлять излишнюю осторожность при вождении на мокром асфальте - любит аквапланирование. Шумна, но это скорее особенность,чем недостаток.
Комментарий:
Использовалась в размере 205/55 R16 сперва на Volvo S40, а в следующем сезоне - на Skoda Octavia. Наверное не стоит ожидать лучших характеристик от шины, разработанной для экономии топлива за счет уменьшения сопротивления качению и увеличения износостойкости.
НУ ОООЧЕНЬ ШУМНАЯ, приспособлена только для шоссейки
Комментарий:
Брал резину перед дальней поездкой, в отпуске катался из Москвы до Абакана, туда и обратно примерно 9000 км. Дорогу держит отлично, на скорости 160-170 ведет предсказуемо, мокрый асфальт не проблема, устойчивая, цепкая резинка, в плане надежности полный шик, но только по шоссейной дороге, грунтовка и особенно травка не для нее. Единственный минус-это очень шумная резина, когда ехал с другом (автослесарь) начал доказывать что у меня подшипник гудит (гул стоит и правда такой, будто подшипник) какого же было его удивление, когда все-таки оказалась что шумит именно резина, тыщенку мне проспорил :) В общем сильный шум стал причиной смены данной резины, ну а кому не важен шум, то берите, не пожалеете ,очень надежная резина.
Жесткая,шумная,посредственная управляемость на мокром асфальте.
Комментарий:
У меня стояли на Киа Сид.Не нравилось мне,что резина жесткая,шумная,мне казалось,что можно найти лучше.Хотел даже поменять на другую резину.Помню,в магазине разговаривал с продавцом,советовался,сказал ему,что резина шумная,хочу поменять на другую.Он как узнал,что у меня Мишлен Энерджи Сэйвер,сказал мне,что не стоит менять,что это самая лучшая летняя резина.Прошло 3 года.Пришло время покупать новую резину.Купил Йокогаму с драйв2.Как оказалось,товар познается в сравнении.Теперь обнаружил,что управляемость,надежность у Мишлена лучше на порядок.Понял,что на этой резине я ездил и доверял ей,чего нет сейчас.Обращаюсь к владельцам.у кого эта резина:не ругайте Сэйвер,он этого не заслуживает.Идеальной резины еще не придумали,но Сэйвер-достойная резина.
Великолепно держат дорогу в любых условиях, за 2 сезона ни одного прокола или грыжи, по сравнению с зимней расход топлива значительно ниже
Недостатки:
Очень шумная, при рекомендованном производителем авто давлении 2,4 шины очень жёсткие
Комментарий:
Стояли на "трехлучевом" немце с завода, поэтому думаю производства не РФ. На предыдущем корейце с завода стояли Kumho - ездить было страшно - аквапланирование жуткое, дорогу не держали от слова совсем. Данные покрышки по ездовым повадкам с Kumho небо и земля - дорогу в любой ситуации держат как надо, однако в угоду этим характеристикам они шумные и жесткие. Но ради безопасного вождения я готов пойти на эти жертвы, так что считаю данную резину очень достойной.
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Алексей С., добрый день! Износ протектора шины или предполагаемый срок его службы определяется множеством факторов: стиль вождения, географическое положение, тип автомобиля, тип шины, добросовестность обслуживания автомобиля и шин и т. д.
Алексей С., добрый день! Износ протектора шины или предполагаемый срок его службы определяется множеством факторов: стиль вождения, географическое положение, тип автомобиля, тип шины, добросовестность обслуживания автомобиля и шин и т. д.
Отличные шины. Прошли уже 45-50,000 а до индикатора еще 3мм. Так что наверное еще и следующий сезон пройдут, стираются очень медленно.
Минусы - шумные и жесткие. Если ко второму привыкаешь, т.к. у меня дороги более-менее. То первое после мягких и тихих зимних по началу бесит, а потом опять-же привыкаешь)).
Поставил 4 только за шумность, а так берите, не пожалеете.
6 лет назад, Молоково
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