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- Не плохо гребёт в грязи
- Глотает все кочки и неровности
- Не очень шумная
- Похоже как и говорили ресурс по пробегу будет большой
Недостатки:
- Большой дисбаланс, меньше 100 гр нет ни одного груза
- Хоть не сильно, но шумит
- Увеличился расход топлива
- Высокая цена
Комментарий:
Проскакивала информация, что была неудачная пратия резины с большим дисбалансом, видимо у меня из этой партии. Друг купил такую же резину у него с балансировкой прблем небыло. А уменя грузы до 180 граммов на сторону!
До этого ездил на чисто шоссейных шинах, так вот с этой резиной у меня расход вырос на 5-7%. Видно что эта резина немного выше и тяжелее предыдущей, плюс более крупный рисунок, видимо из-за этого она хуже катится и соответственно больше расход топлива.
P.S. На фото кажется, что у резины большие боковые грунтозацепы, это оптический обман, они как бы нарисованы на боковине протектора. Это не грязевая шина, но для АТ она гребёт не плохо.
Продолжу отзыв спустя несколько лет и 2 комплекта резины. Резина оказалась не такой замечательной, как казалось сначала, откровенно разочаровала прочность каркаса. Несколько лет по работе пришлось очень активно ездить по гравийкам и грунтовкам, корд оказался слабым, Первый сезон выдержала, а потом после каждого сезона приходилось заменять минимум одно колесо, так как начинали появляться грыжи. Ни одно колесо не успело износиться до минимума. Взамен купил резину от известного японского бренда, с ними ни каких проблем, выдерживают мою жесткую эксплуатацию. После этих мучений продал Купер и не жалею.
После 2014 года резина Купер неоправданно подорожала. Своих денег она теперь не стоит. Сейчас её стоимость занёс в недостатки.
Общий вывод теперь такой: Для преимущественной езды по асфальту, с вылазками в грязь, где гребут неплохо. Быстрая езда по гравийным дорогам и противопоказана.
Красивая
Мягкая
Держит дорогу хорошо, максимум ездил 180
Недостатки:
Самое главное, под конец второго сезона потрескалась боковина на половине колёс, хоть пробег и износ небольшой, но опасаюсь ставить их на лето
В грязи замыливается
Комментарий:
Хорошо ведёт себя на трассе (305/55 R20) мягкая, особенно после гудрича, который дико жёсткий (на асфальте плохо тормозит, особенно в холодную погоду). Но очень слабая боковина, трещины размером 5-10 мм вдоль обода колесного диска перечёркивают все плюсы...
Успел отъездить при отрицательных температурах - очень даже ничего. На льду сильно хуже липучки, и нужно включать аккуратного водителя.
Тормозит по сухому очень уверенно.
К сожалению такая характеристика как проходимость не относится к легкоизмеряемым. Могу только сказать, что не хуже чем Dunlop AT3 и Michelin Latitude Cross.
Какой-то "супермягкости" нет, но точно не жесткая.
Недостатки:
Выехав из шиномонтажа, с ужасом отметил значительно большую шумность по сравнению с Dunlop SJ6 (зимняя липучка). Была надежда что шины прикатаются, но увы. Пробовал давление от 2.3 до 1.8 - без разницы. В какой-то момент отметил, что шум приходит в норму на гладком асфальте. У нас таких участков очень мало. И стоит выехать на обычный абразивный асфальт - очень сильный шум. На абразивном асфальте эта резина по шуму на уровне с хорошей шиповкой. Точно громче Michelin Latitude Cross, хотя они мне не такими и тихими показались. И тем более не сравнить по шуму с Dunlop AT3. Увы.
Комментарий:
Шум - самое большое разочарование от резины.
А ведь покупая, обратил внимание на отзывы, и по шуму они были скорее положительными. Для меня шумность важнейшая характеристика, т.к. устаю в дороге от шума резины. Поэтому второй раз точно не возьму такую.
245/70 R17
//пробежался по отзывам, вот цитата "По сравнению с Данлоп АТ3 не шумная.". Удивительно, но я пришел к противоположному выводу. Остается только думать, что на характеристики резины очень влияет страна и год производства.
//проверил: балансировка в нулях, развал в нулях, давление ровное. Шум не связан с техническим состоянием автомобиля.
брал 265\75 R16 6300 за покрышку, порадовал протектор, в грязи гребёт уверенно.
Недостатки:
по снегу плохо себя показала, балансировка отвратительная, на шиномонтажках все ругают эту модель. Очень слабые на проколы. Боковину сучком пробил + куча гвоздей и саморезов... после BFGoodrich AllTerrain небо и земля, они у меня за 3 года ни разу не прокололись ни чем!!!
Комментарий:
в общем, не нужно экономить. Покрышки хоть и США, но качество плохое
9 лет назад, Сочи
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