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На льду и снежной каше они не то, чтобы не хуже шипованных X-Ice North, они даже лучше их! На шипах срабатывание ABS при трогании и торможении зимой в гололед было делом частым и обычным. На CrossClimate этого почти не было! На льду и в снежную кашу машина трогается и тормозит без каких-либо скольжений и пробуксовок. Фантастика! Мои опасения, что ламели забьются мокрым снегом и покрышки превратятся в гоночный «суперслик» оказались полностью необоснованными. Несмотря на кажущуюся «незубастость» протектора, он отлично выгребал и снег, и лед. Единственный факт скольжения был на холодных трамвайных путях, присыпанных толстым слоем сухой снежной каши.
Глубокий снег, на удивление, им также нипочем. Проверено неоднократной парковкой в сугробах, куда коллеги на шипах и фрикционе предусмотрительно не совались…
Отдельно хотелось бы сказать о несостоятельности разговоров о том, что CrossClimate «дубеют» в морозы. Приведу один только пример. Февраль, утро, - 24, подхожу к машине, пробую покрышки – протектор мягкий, на дороге – никакой разницы ни с плюсом, ни с нулем. К сожалению, в Москве более низкой температуры не было.
Удивительно хорошо ведут себя CrossClimate на льду. Там, где шипы бы уже буксовали или работала ABS, они уверенно держат дорогу: обледенелые спуски, подъемы – удивительная четкость управления. Там, где пешком я сам ухитрился упасть, специально проверил резкое торможение и получил четкий результат с минимальным срабатыванием ABS, без юзов и уводов. Супер! Приведу еще пример, на обледенелом стальном въезде на автомойку, на котором на шипованных шинах я пробуксовывал всегда, CrossClimate прошли без каких-либо проблем, к моему и автомойщиков удивлению.
Вывод – CrossClimate это не «летние шины», это всесезонные шины, отличные в летних и лучшие в зимних условиях из того, что мне приходилось видеть.
Испытал я их не только на московских дорогах, пробовал в пригороде, в промзоне и снежный укат, и ледяную колею, и почти «каток», с буграми и без.
Недостатки:
Единственно, чего хотелось бы пожелать разработчикам этих шин, это немного добавить глубины протектора, который составляет на новых покрышках 6.1 мм. Это связано с тем, что российский законодатель по непонятным причинам ограничивает возможность эксплуатации шин зимой с остатком глубины протектора менее 4 мм. Теоретически это может привести к тому, что после лет пяти-шести эксплуатации еще годные шины станут недопустимыми для езды зимой в РФ! Не могу обвинить CrossClimate в ускоренном износе (за 10 000 км. пробега протектор ведущих колес не потерял и 0.5 мм), но, думаю, всем (особенно нашим госрегуляторам), с протектором хотя бы в 10 мм. было бы куда спокойней.
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Чего я не делал принципиально? Как у водителя-сибиряка с опытом у меня безопасный стиль езды зимой «зашит» в подсознании: скорость, плавность, предсказуемость, должная дистанция. Все зимние тесты проводились на «дозвуковых скоростях» - не более 110 км/ч для сухого асфальта, и не более 80 км/ч для снега, не более 60 км/ч в гололед. Чудес не бывает. А тем, кто в таких условиях ездит быстрее, я бы принудительно аннулировал медсправки водителя в части прохождения психиатора.
Вывод: если вы опытный водитель, не участвуете в гонках по льду Байкала и ралли в горных районах зимой, можете смело ставить это чудо от Michelin и забыть о сезонной смене покрышек!
Не фантазируйте,сам на мишках этих 4 года.ГОЛОЛЕД НЕ ЛЮБЯТ ОНИ.
Да и не для этого их проектировали.
А так очень достойная резина,только истираются быстро да и ценник 27 тыс R 18 e vtyz/
Не фантазируйте,сам на мишках этих 4 года.ГОЛОЛЕД НЕ ЛЮБЯТ ОНИ.
Да и не для этого их проектировали.
А так очень достойная резина,только истираются быстро да и ценник 27 тыс R 18 e vtyz/
Мягкая. По сравнению с тем же летним Мишленом Примаси ХП существенно мягче. Колею позволяет не чувствовать. Гула меньше. Управляемость отличная (DTC срабатывает намного реже, чем на чисто летней).
Сегодня 20 октября 2018 года, живу в Сибири, не переобуваюсь пока. Посмотрим как она при минусовых.
Недостатки:
По мне так нет.
Но, чтобы быть более объективным:
1. Камни собирает очень хорошо. Потом, видимо, ими кидается )) Но это не мои проблемы ))
2. От прохождения луж на скорости сноп капель чумовой поднимает в стороны. При определенной сноровке можно в него же и окунуться )) Это из-за рисунка елочкой в стороны.
3. Когда проедешь по лужам, потом можно видеть, как по центру протектора стекают остатки воды. То есть да - она хорошо "врезается в жидкость", но потом будет ее вам кидать. Если колеса не сильно утоплены в арках - быть вашему авто грязным однозначно. Но у меня это не работает ))
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Весной взял сначала один комплект (BMW 3 225/40/R18), поездив, через месяц купил второй (BMW X3 235/55/R17).
По мне так идеальная резина:
1. Летом держак отменный.
2. Не жесткая. Сменил Мишлен ХП (205/55/R16) на Мишлен Кроссклимат+ (225/40/R18). Колею перестал чувствовать. Пришло ощущение мягкости, как-будто ты на зимней резе, но не расплывается при плюсовой температуре в отличии от той. В целом сменив Р16 на почти изоленту Р18 машина стала мягче (до этой резины, я думал потеряю существенно в мягкости, а получается наоборот - приобрел). Руль стал крутиться легче.
3. Возможность не страдать при первых заморозках. И продлить жизнь шипам на зимней. На весь год в Сибири я ее не стал бы брать. Уверен, что не для нашей зимы, но с марта до ноября можно точно.
4. Гула нет. Мишлен чисто летний гудел значительно больше. Меня аж передергивало, когда я менял зиму на лето. Возможно есть шум, но не гул. Шум я тоже не слышу, видимо, из-за шумоизоляции нормальной. Но прежние летние покрышки гудели знатно!
5. Аквапланирование. На моих скоростях я его не заметил. Режет воду отлично, но отводит в сторону сильно. Машина при этом значительно теряет в скорости, ударяясь об фонтаны (в днище). На чистом лете я такого не замечал.
До этого ездил 5 лет на Мишлен Примаси ХП и Икс Айс Норс 2. Сегодня Мишлен КроссКлимат+(СЮВ) и Нулячие Икс Айс Норс 4. От добра добра не ищут. Много на чем ездил, но Мишлен есть Мишлен.
Не заказуха. Покупал в известном интернет магазе.
Хорошая, качественная резина. На Lancer IX показала себя идеально. Чтобы сорвать ее в аквапланирование нужно очень постараться. При этом нет ощущения, что резина пытается вытрясти позвоночник водителя и пассажиров в трусы. Для круглогодичного использования в условиях средней полосы и Севера я бы не рекомендовал, но внезапно выпавший в сентябре-октябре снег не превратит машину в "корову на льду".
Реально нежная боковина - можно порвать просто на выбоине в асфальте с грубыми краями.
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Алексей 13, спасибо за отзыв. Инженеры Мишлен при проектировании шин учитывают особенности различных регионов мира для того, чтобы предоставлять наилучшее предложение своим клиентам. Новые модели шин стали прочнее, но продолжают оставаться комфортными для вождения. Заметим так же, что шум очень субъективный показатель, поскольку зависит от множества факторов. Все наши шины прошли тестирование на уровень шума.
Алексей 13, спасибо за отзыв. Инженеры Мишлен при проектировании шин учитывают особенности различных регионов мира для того, чтобы предоставлять наилучшее предложение своим клиентам. Новые модели шин стали прочнее, но продолжают оставаться комфортными для вождения. Заметим так же, что шум очень субъективный показатель, поскольку зависит от множества факторов. Все наши шины прошли тестирование на уровень шума.
185/65/15. Ростов-на-Дону. Кому нужно лето - берите лето. Я планировал использовать не столько как всесезонку, сколько для семейной рыбалки. Предыдущий обычный летний гладкий мишка напугал меня в Крыму, когда я, из-за их внедорожного асфальта, на японке с полным приводом посчитал, что дешевле будет в начале сильного ливня поехать по укатанной параллельной в поле. Тогда и на низкой скорости машина просто стала сползать боком. Пришлось включать заднюю. Ту резину снял хоть и душила жаба. Её видно брали для продажи машины нам. Сколько прошла один бог знает. Но! Ещё внятный протектор, мягкая, корд цел, без порезов, грыж гвозди и саморезы не притягивает почему то. Если б супруга не требовала - не менял бы. По ощущениям ей два года, но год 2004. Представляете какая ходимость! 14 лет отличной работы. А, так как тут на 80% лето пользуем, решил не экономить, снова выбирал Michelin.
Этот CrossClimate+ меня только радует. На малых скоростях, вроде бы, появляется небольшой барабан, но не противный, не громкий и не гул. Камешки цепляет и кидает в днище, понимал когда брал. Зато Горячий Ключ - Адлер серпантины рулится на ура. Ездил там и в жару, и осенью, и в ливень, и в смерчь вывозила. Трассу М4 и двухполосную и с латками переносит отлично. Переобуваться аж не хочу. Ноябрь. Новости всю страну нашим снегом напугали. Едет. По льду по любому нужны мозги, а по снегу, наверно и без мозгов можно.
Ауди а3, 225/45/17. Брал комплект (4шт.) , новые в 2020г. Сейчас -апрель 2022, пробег за это время 25 000+-… , круглый год эксплуатации, износ примерно 20-25%, мягкая, тихая. Зимой нужно быть осторожней на гололёде, снег и кашу перемалывает легко, максимальный мороз в -25 без проблем, летом не плывёт. Расход топлива радует, 6.8/100км Ранее была мишелин альпин (RunFlat), очень тяжелая и жесткая, расход 9л./100км., за один сезон зимы убил всю подвеску.
Купил r17 225 45 не смотря на низкий профиль очень мягкая брал на лето но решил попробовать зимой... Мастер который собирал их был в ужасе 😱 от идеального баланса максимум 10грамм на колесо. Дата выпуска 50неделя 2020 года производитель Италия брал на сайте мосавтошина. На сегодняшний день 22 февраля 2021года езжу в Ставрополе снега выпало не мало..ведёт себя достойно при минус 10 остатется эластичной управляемость хорошая пока больше 120 не ездил. Посмотрим как поведет себя летом. Ни чуть не пожалел о данной покупке Мишлен самая лучшая резина
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Сурен А., рады, что вы довольны шинами MICHELIN! Для суровых зимних условий рекомендуем обратить внимание на шины MICHELIN X-Ice North 4 и MICHELIN X-Ice Snow.
Сурен А., рады, что вы довольны шинами MICHELIN! Для суровых зимних условий рекомендуем обратить внимание на шины MICHELIN X-Ice North 4 и MICHELIN X-Ice Snow.
На мой взгляд все очень даже отлично. Брал на мокку передний привод 215/55 R18 SUV.
г. Воронеж. Поставил 18 марта 2019г., примерно 20 снова выпал снег (мокрая каша), до работы 48 км., никаких проблем. Летом до сочей и обратно (+32), дорогу держит изумительно. Снял вечером 28 ноября 2019г., утром был ледяной дождь, до работы столько же, не сказать, что понравилось но это и не шипы, но и не континенталь который стоял до этого. За первый сезон (8 мес.) прошли 26000 км., состояние как новые. У моих производство Германия (искал 2 недели). В дождь просто отлично, 100-120 по трассе без опаски. Мыть конечно коня придется по чаще, кидают из под себя тоже отменно, но это мелочь. Очень даже рекомендую.
Тихая
Отменная управляемость на мокрой дороге
Мягкая
Цена-качество, в сравнении с конкурентами
Хорошее сцепление с дорогой
Недостатки:
Не столько недостаток, сколько придирка. В силу рисунка протектора первое время мелки камушки прилипали к резине и вылетали в арку. Но со временем привык и уже не слышу.
Комментарий:
Долго выбирал резину на смену Turanza, но в итоге у этой зацепил рисунок протектора и множество хороших отзывов. Решил попробовать, и должен сказать что Вам тоже есть смысл попробовать, если сомневаетесь.
Получилось взять CrossClimate+. Уж не знаю чем отличается от обычной, но на момент приобретения другой не было.
Не скажу про управляемость зимой, да и не планировал, использую первый сезон, с весны, но на текущий момент доволен Мишками. Она тихая, несмотря на рисунок протектора; она мягкая, сглаживает большинство неровностей и "лежачих" переезжать комфортнее. Управляемость на мокрой дороге очень неплохая, разумеется не стоит забывать о мозгах в голове. Накатал около 8к и претензий вообще нет. Раз налетел на неплохую яму, думал получу грыжу, но нет. Был приятно удивлен.
Буду ли советовать другим - да. Определенно!
Здравствуйте, подскажите пожалуйста, как резина в процессе эксплуатации? Хочу взять на замену bridgestone turanza t001, резина неубиваемая. У мишлен понравился протектор, смущает только у мишлен проблемы есть со слабой боковиной, отсюда грыжи и тд. У бриджстоуна с этим проблем вообще нет, эксплуатация по лету грунтовка, трасса. Метаюсь между t001 и crossclimate+. Что посоветуете?
Здравствуйте, подскажите пожалуйста, как резина в процессе эксплуатации? Хочу взять на замену bridgestone turanza t001, резина неубиваемая. У мишлен понравился протектор, смущает только у мишлен проблемы есть со слабой боковиной, отсюда грыжи и тд. У бриджстоуна с этим проблем вообще нет, эксплуатация по лету грунтовка, трасса. Метаюсь между t001 и crossclimate+. Что посоветуете?
Шина премиум класса по вполне доступной цене - чуть меньше 10.000 за покрышку + бонусом шел шиномонтаж. Покупал на Дискавери 4 в размере 255/60 r18. Производство Франция, все шины 8 и 9 недели 2019 года выпуска. Вопросов к управляемости просто нет, я даже скажу проще - полный восторг!
Недостатки:
Как писал ранее, стоят на Дискавери 4. Может это применимо исключительно субъективно к модели автомобиля, но у меня начиная ровно со скорости 105 км/ч, просто как будто включается генератор шума, и самое интересное, этот шум дальше не нарастает, а идёт постоянным фоном, может прикатываются ещё...
Посмотрим ещё, как будет износ. Сейчас судить рано, проехал за выходные 600 км - полет нормальный, разочарования точно нет.
Комментарий:
Если не забуду, то обновлю отзыв спустя км так 5000. Зимой, как пишут некоторые товарищи, использовать точно не стоит.
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