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Заменить её, вопреки отзывам, не так уж и сложно. 4 диска легко объединились в рейд 5. Не знаю, связано ли это с рейдом, но запись на диски довольно медленная. Хоть через сеть, хоть через USB","pro":"Хорошая автоинсталляция, понятные настройки, солидный набор программ (некоторые из них даже полезны), стабильная работа без странностей, разнообразный доступ, хоть из интернета. Довольно внятный и удобный WEB-интерфейс. В магазине приложений есть популярные серверы и сервисы разного назначения.","contra":"Использовать его как проигрыватель медиа практически невозможно. Какой-то нечеловеческий интерфейс, кривость и тормоза. Но как медиа-сервер - очень даже. Долго грузится и долго останавливается. 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Процедура увеличения памяти непростая. но при наличии рук и головы несложная. Однако, при этом вы лишаетесь гарантии.
Цена великовата.
Комментарий:
Покупался на замену старенькому WD, который с новой Windows 10 при апгрейде домашнего компьютера не подружился и его пришлось заменить. Он использовался в качестве домашнего архива видео, фото, книг и софта. Активно использовался встроенный в него мультимедийный сервер Twonky Media для показа домашнего видео по сети. Во время апгрейда были также заменены четыре 3'5 SATA диска на SSD. Старые диски нужно было куда-то пристроить, поэтому искался NAS с корзиной на 4 диска. Выбор пал на QNAP D4 Pro.
По рекомендации сразу закупил память по рекомендации выше (KINGSTON HyperX Impact HX316LS9IBK2/8 DDR3L — 2x 4Гб 1600, SO-DIMM). Поставил сразу обе планки по 4 Gb каждая. Память подошла, NAS заработал. Оценить насколько быстрее он стал работать не могу, поскольку память заменил, как только убедился, что он работает и сдавать обратно в магазин не придется. Начинал процедуру с опаской, начитавшись критичных отзывов, но действительность не такая и страшная. Все винты открутились, обратно закрутились и девайс включился. НО! Винты помечены краской и уверен, что при обращении по гарантии будет отказ (в условиях гарантии указано, что самостоятельная разборка запрещена). За это точно жирный минус. Чтобы не сделать как в ноутбуках - открывающееся окошко на паре винтов! Отвертку желательно использовать магнитную, крохотные винтики легко выскакивают из рук и падают в нутро девайса.
За два вечера разобрался с настройками, сконфигурировал сетевые диски и залил видео. Все домашние телевизоры Samsung-и его сразу увидели, видео, фото и музыку кажут справно.
Простота настройки не отменяет хотя бы начальных знаний работы дисковых массивов, сети и мультимедиа. При дефиците оных можно прочитать толковую инструкцию, где кратко про это написано.
Огромное количество предлагаемого софта точно обеспечит мне много нескучных вечеров.
В целом рекомендую. Достойный аппарат, компактный, тихий (если не стоит на прикроватной тумбочке) с огромным набором софта под различные нужды.
Все! Стоит своих денег с некоторыми НО! ОЗУ расширять ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО, но не имеет смысла оригинальными плашками, зайдите в комиссионку по ноутам и протестируйте плашки so dimm 1.35 V, каждая вторая работает отлично, в итоге имеем 2х4 Гб за 3 000 руб, против 2 х 4 Гб оригинальных за 18 000 руб! Если не используете виртуализацию или контейнер, то хватит и 4 Гб, кто-то ставил и 16 - заводится. я поставил 8 (2х4) с головой хватает! Удобства в полной мере и тебе VPN при работе из дома с туннелем в офис и наоборот, бекапы фото с телефонов всех членов семьи, библиотеки файлов для всей семьи с любых устройств (Мама решит старые фотки посмотреть на планшете - без проблем), медиавозможности и так понятно, ISCSI вообще сказка, когда берешь ноут, а там памяти мало, лучше чем просто сетевой диск, PXE бы еще прикрутить и вообще замечательно, а 2 гигабитных порта в режиме баланса (т.к. коммутатор с агрегацией это дороговато) вообще работают изумительно, прямо по мониторингу смотреть можно. Сайт - визитка с хостингом на нем - да пожалуйста, личная страница для эл книг, чтобы с ридеров заходить - пожалуйста (только еще не сделал, изучить надо), но теоретически это обычный сайт.
Недостатки:
Есть недостатки в то что некоторые пакеты приложений с новыми прошивками могут убрать, как например Transmission убрали, но все решается ручной установкой и настройкой файла конфигурации каждой проги, делается даже без применения терминала.
Комментарий:
Устройство по соотношению цена-производительность-качество идеально, рассматривал и пробовал различные НАСы, Synology неоправданно дорого с таким же функционалом, остальные не на столько функциональны, самосбор ИМХО - громоздко и танцы с бубном с подбором железа, охлаждения, а потом с совместимостью, чтобы все работало как часы надо постараться, ну и головняк если это Хренология с различными совместимостями АО и ПО, я это понимаю и мог бы продумать и сделать достойный самосбор, уже был готов к этому, но потом все просчитал и понял, что время и небольшая переплата не равноценны. Тут не на много дороже чем делали по отдельности, за то компактно и работает как часы, но есть тоже момент, чтобы все работало надо понимать хотя бы основы как это работает и для чего каждая кнопочка, советую читать с переводчиком европейские форумы, там ответы практически на все вопросы и комьюнити более дружелюбно чем на наших форумах, это все таки не просто файло-помойка (ее можно на базе роутера замутить без проблем), перед покупкой надо понимать для чего его берешь, я понимал, и выбрал именно эту модель, т.к. проще - не канает, дороже - бесмысленно, для моих задач идеально, правда пульт оказался не в кассу, т.к. стоит в кладовке
Огромные возможности для домашнего использования. Любителям видео, аудио и фото тек просто бомба. Для уверенного и безопасного хранения всего. Доступ к данным из любой точки мира, где есть интернет конечно))
1. Не тормозит (В комментариях)
2. Возможность расширения
3. Стабильность
4. Возможность установить 4 диска с емкостью 12Тб
5. Простота настройки
В принципе все достоинства уже написаны
Недостатки:
В заводской комплектации всего 1Гб оперативки, этого недостаточно.
Комментарий:
Купил ранее рекомендованную оперативку (KINGSTON HyperX Impact HX316LS9IBK2/8 DDR3L) - загрузка оперативки снизилась с 90% до 15-20%. Инструкция по замене оперативки есть на официальном сайте и меняется все лекго. Не тормозит потому что использую чисто как сетевое хранилище фотографий, видео и всяких файлов. По HDMI с телевизором работает корректно, фотки и видео можно смотреть (ничего "на лету" не перекодирую). Повторюсь, использую его чисто как сетевое хранилище и просмоторщик через телек файлов - для этих задач он справляется на все 200%, поэтому смело могу его рекомендовать.
Давно хотел приобрести домашний NAS, долго выбирал между Sinology и QNAP, у последнего очень понравилось ПО, мне показалось намного интереснее чем у Sinology, все более наглядно, можно настроить более тонко. Cразу советую купить комплект памяти на 8 Gb, я ставил KINGSTON HyperX Impact HX316LS9IBK2/8 DDR3L — 2x 4Гб 1600, SO-DIMM, с ним нас NAS работает на много лучше, память определяется, даже производитель отображается в QTS, NAS разбирается очень просто, главное не торопиться, и даже тот момент что для замены планок требуется полностью снять корзину не считаю минусом, вы делаете это только один раз, да и для человека, покупающего NAS это не должно быть проблемой, а товарищу из Чебоксар советую купить нормальный набор инструментов, у меня все винты открутились очень легко. ОС работает быстро и за счет дополнительных пакетов становится достаточно многозадачной, покупкой очень доволен, все просто и очень удобно.
крутая вещь. Геморно конечно было с первичной настройкой для человека у которого это первое нас хранилище. Я туда воткнул 16 гиг оперативки, так как на будущее планирую ставить на него сервак. Вам советую брать модель по дешевле на 2 жестких. это я с запасом купил, до можно было и 2 обойтись))
Хорошая автоинсталляция, понятные настройки, солидный набор программ (некоторые из них даже полезны), стабильная работа без странностей, разнообразный доступ, хоть из интернета. Довольно внятный и удобный WEB-интерфейс. В магазине приложений есть популярные серверы и сервисы разного назначения.
Недостатки:
Использовать его как проигрыватель медиа практически невозможно. Какой-то нечеловеческий интерфейс, кривость и тормоза. Но как медиа-сервер - очень даже. Долго грузится и долго останавливается. При не использовании засыпает, но не на долго - почему то периодически просыпается и заводится.
Комментарий:
Сразу купил 8 гиг памяти. Заменить её, вопреки отзывам, не так уж и сложно. 4 диска легко объединились в рейд 5. Не знаю, связано ли это с рейдом, но запись на диски довольно медленная. Хоть через сеть, хоть через USB
2 года назад, Москва
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