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Весьма крепко держаться шипы (за почти два сезона выпало всего по паре из каждого колеса ) , не высокая цена.
Недостатки:
НЕПРЕДСКАЗУЕМА !!!! Не едет прямо по снегу , чувствительна к колейности , слабое сцепление на льду.
Комментарий:
Буду говорить только за размер 175/65R14 (судя по прочитанным мною отзывам , большие размеры ведут себя получше) . Данную резину преобрел перед началом зимы 2017-2018 года, решающим фактором стали цена и заверения продавца , что это почти Бриджстоун . Предыдущая резина был Бриджстоун Айскрузер 5000 в размере 185/60R14, верой и правдой отходивший в самых экстремальных условиях и наплевательском отношении ШЕСТЬ !!! Сезонов . И так , мой отзыв будет основан на сравнении этих моделей на одном и том же автомобиле (Лада Приора). В условиях города на не высоких скоростях по ровной дороге все хорошо ,НО , если на дороге снежная каша , колейность , поведение становится непредсказуемым , постоянно приходится корректировать траекторию, даже в небольших поворотах на невысоких скоростях , при торможении намного чаще чем на Бриджстоуне срабатывает АБС . В условиях плохо почищеной просёлочной дороги всё становится намного хуже , даже в укатанный снег колеса проваливаются ( за исключением когда снег укатан до состояния асфальта ) , про прямолинейность движения можно забыть совсем , даже из прямой колеи машина норовит выскочить , в повороты на рыхлом снегу надо заезжать со скоростью пешехода ,в противном случае машина едет прямо. Разница в поведении с Бриджстоуном ОГРОМНА , Бриджстоун в тех же условиях ехал как по рельсам и даже не думал никуда проваливаться ( я понимаю что эта резина уже на 10мм чем предыдущая, но я не думаю что она настолько хуже только из за этого ) . На основании вышеизложенного я бы не рекомендовал эту резину В ЭТОМ РАЗМЕРЕ , особенно людям часто ездящим по плохим дорогам .
Пока новые отлично копают в снегу, держат дорогу, тормозят. Даже с износом по трассе норм, при перестроении уверенно проходит наметы между полосами, отлично проходит лужи,любые.
Недостатки:
При малйшем износе теряет все свои свойства и шипы разом.
Комментарий:
Кончается вторая зима, апрель 2022. В эксплуатации: 500 км в феврале 2020, прикатал шипы в режиме 40-60 км/ч, зима 20-21 и зима 21-22. На передке в середине декабря 2021 не осталось ниодного шипа, на задней оси все целые, резина бьет, не тормозит на льду и снегу. Тронуться не реально, пробуксовки на ровном месте. Износ переда около 80%, зад как новый. И я не гоняю, не торможу резко, не ухожу со светофоров. Пробег 60% трасса. Авто мазда 6, мкпп. 205/55 16. Пробег 20-25 тыс максимум, но думаю гораздо меньше. Авто исправно, износ равномерный на оси.
Цена
Низкая шумность
Бренд (написано Bridgestone, никаких "Firestone" даже мелким шрифтом)
Недостатки:
Плохое сцепление на неровностях и в поворотах
Комментарий:
Стоят 185/65 r15, только куплены.
Переобулся с первым снегом, но оказалась ложная тревога. Пару недель ездил по асфальту - шипы на месте.
Потом была снежная каша - словил пару заносов на небольшой скорости и в плавном повороте (45градусов), понесло как корову на льду. Машина остановилась только упершись в бордюр боком. Можно было газануть и поймать машину, но узкая дорога со встречкой между ней и бордюром выбрал бордюр.
Еще разок заносило на укатанном снегу в таком же плавном повороте, но здесь было свободно "поймал".
При торможении на светофоре, в принципе, все хорошо. По прямой тормозит хорошо, цепляет хорошо.
Повороты - не очень. Каждый раз поворачивая думаешь "Сорвется не сорвется?", придется привыкать и уже чувствовать эту грань, но на 30км/ч это как то слабо.
На асфальте тормозит быстрее, чем машина, иногда даже резковато, за это огромный плюс. Как на льду себя будет вести понятия не имею. С агрессивной ездой все шипы на месте.
Недостатки:
Очень жесткая, как на деревянных едешь, и это в +5. что же будет в морозы? Заносит на колее, на неровностях не держит дорогу, приходится быть постоянно в тонусе и подруливать.
Комментарий:
Ранее были зимние pirelli-обычная, а эти-никакие. Бюджетный дешевый вариант, но безопасность она дороже. Не посоветовала бы активным водителям, перестраивающимся из ряда в ряд и любящим комфортную езду. Решила не испытывать судьбу и переобуться на michelin.
5 лет назад, Россия
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