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Кама-232 эксплуатировалась 8 сезонов в летнее время на Ниве-21214М, примерный пробег 40-45 тыс. км до достижения меток износа TWI, грыж и разрывов выявлено не было.
Резина хорошо показала себя на трассе, уверенно держит дорогу на 120-140 км/ч на сухом асфальте. Неплохо держит на мокром асфальте, нет срывов на поворотах. Мягко проходит неровности.
По среднему бездорожью едет вполне удовлетворительно.
В серьёзную грязь на ней лучше не заезжать - быстро "замыливается" чернозёмом и можно застрять, ещё не повиснув на мостах, чего не случалось на более зубастых ВЛИ-5.
В целом, по соотношению цена/качество резина хороша, как универсальный вариант. На замену изношенной была куплена такая же.
Один сезон на Ниве отъездил. Больше желания нет. Ошибочка вышла.
Да, это тихая резина, что для Нивы критично. Да, она приемлемо отбалансировалась, только на одном из пяти баллонов больше 70 гр.
Недостатки:
А что сказать про мягкость? Меня возмущает читать комментарии в которых встречаются диаметрально противоположные мнения. Но у этой резины индекс нагрузки на 60 кг больше, чем у штатной К-156-й. И вроде как и не много. Только к штатной И-511 эта разница уже 130 кг. Вот в сравнении с последней, после зимы, и понимаешь как эта резина бьет подвеску. Держу давление 1.7/1.5 чтобы хоть немного почувствовать эту "мягкость". Обратите внимание при случае на улице, что короткая нива ее просадить не может.
Грязь не ее стихия.
Комментарий:
Брать эту резину на Ниву только из принципа порадовать машину чем то лучше вместо штатной К-156 наивное заблуждение. Выбор не велик и слава Богу. Не надо время терять. У моего отца на пятидверке 156-я, живем, не праздник конечно, но она соответствует машине.
232-ю можно использовать в большом городе, когда машину брали для большей безопасности при нашем климате, и если у вас есть на зиму другая, типа 511 (не нарадуюсь, отличная). Возможно и бензин она экономит, благодаря жесткости, что впрочем я высчитать не смог. А там где на четвертой передаче за счастье, где заплата на заплате - не надо.
Манометр купи сначала, который не брешет, а потом говори, что она "дубовая". Ты её явно перекачиваешь. Стрелочные манометры, особенно стоящие на ножных насосах, имеют точность плюс-минус пол-атмосферы.
Манометр купи сначала, который не брешет, а потом говори, что она "дубовая". Ты её явно перекачиваешь. Стрелочные манометры, особенно стоящие на ножных насосах, имеют точность плюс-минус пол-атмосферы.
Брал ниву 212140 б/у на Кама Flame 205/70/16, обутую на штатные нивские диски. На одной Flame поплыл корд, хотя протектор ещё с большим запасом. Остальные 3 покрышки в трещинках вокруг диска. Уверен, это из-за того, что широкие покрышки 205 на узком диске стоят бубликом. Было решено брать 4 новых с нормальным размером 185/75/16. Как вы уже догадались, выбрал КАМА-232. После Flame ощущения только положительные: легче рулится, меньше рыскает (меньше чувствуется колейность). Рисунок протектора компромисс между асфальтом и бездорожьем. Пока доволен. Обозначение M+S, но при покупке сказали что летняя. Зимой посмотрим как себя покажет.
Досталась резина при покупки машины. Видно "Авто-Ваз" все Нивы комплектует ей.
Обычная шоссейная резина - предназначена только для городской езды по асфальту в летний период.
Недостатки:
Заводом изготовителем позиционируется как всесезонная - эксплуатировать в зимний период не рекомендую.
Если Вам не жалко себя: то хотя бы поберегите других участников движения.
При первых морозах стала дубовая, дорогу не держит, тормозной путь (мама не горюй).
Комментарий:
Резина очень мягкая, из за этого колеса на машине выглядят всегда под спущенными.
Очень легко проколоть.
На поворотах имеет свойства подламываться.
По асфальту не шумит.
Отлично справляется на мокрой дороге, тормозной путь предсказуемый.
На проселочной дороге любит собирать мелкие камни в протектор.
В дождь проехать даже по легкому бездорожью не мечтайте, замыливается на раз.
Тем кто хочет на этой резине съездить на рыбалку, за грибами, или тем у кого сильно разбитая грунтовая дорога на дачу:
советую обратите внимание на другие модели, но только не на эту.
В итоге резина была продана за бесполезность и ненадобность.
Вывод: Обычная резина и не чего в ней выдающегося нет - которая подойдет пенсионерам, для размеренной и спокойной езды в городских условиях, а так же для вылазок на дачу в сухих погодных условиях.
Износил 2 комплекта за 4 года круглогодичной эксплуатации, в первый год зимой еще цепляет, на второй уже нет. По льду тормозит плохо, это надо в первую очередь учесть, следите за сходом развалом, а то сильно износится. Ездить зимой можно аккуратно, но я бы лучше посоветовал И-511.
Указано что всесезонка, а по факту на шине есть квадратик для снежинки. Пустой. Самой снежинки нет. Для ДПС повод докопаться. Протектор тот же, всё так же.
Александр П., добрый день.
В связи с внесением изменений в Технический регламент таможенного союза «О безопасности колесных транспортных средств» (ТР ТС 018/2011) многие Законы, Указы, Положения, Правила в части эксплуатации шин претерпели изменения. В том числе Правила ЕЭК ООН №30 (ЕДИНООБРАЗНЫЕ ПРЕДПИСАНИЯ, КАСАЮЩИЕСЯ ОФИЦИАЛЬНОГО УТВЕРЖДЕНИЯ ПНЕВМАТИЧЕСКИХ ШИН ДЛЯ АВТОТРАНСПОРТНЫХ СРЕДСТВ И ИХ ПРИЦЕПОВ) и ЕЭК ООН №54 (ЕДИНООБРАЗНЫЕ ПРЕДПИСАНИЯ, КАСАЮЩИЕСЯ ОФИЦИАЛЬНОГО УТВЕРЖДЕНИЯ ПНЕВМАТИЧЕСКИХ ШИН ТРАНСПОРТНЫХ СРЕДСТВ НЕИНДИВИДУАЛЬНОГО ПОЛЬЗОВАНИЯ И ИХ ПРИЦЕПОВ). Согласно данным Правилам определяют следующие категории использования шин:
1. «Обычная шина» (означает шину, предназначенную для обычного, повседневного использования на дорогах).
2. «Шина специального назначения» (означает шину, предназначенную для смешанного использования как на дорогах, так и вне дорог или для иного специального использования. Эти шины предназначены прежде всего для приведения транспортного средства в движение и поддержания его движения в условиях бездорожья).
3. «Зимняя шина» (означает шину, у которой рисунок протектора, материал протектора или конструкция предназначены прежде всего для обеспечения на снегу более высоких показателей, чем у обычной шины, в том что касается ее способности приводить транспортное средство в движение или поддерживать его движение).
Таким образом, понятие «всесезонной шины» исключено.
В части маркировки в данных Правилах указывается: надпись "M+S", "M&S", "M.S", если шина относится к категории использования «зимняя шина» или если шина относится к категории использования «шина специального назначения».
Александр П., добрый день.
В связи с внесением изменений в Технический регламент таможенного союза «О безопасности колесных транспортных средств» (ТР ТС 018/2011) многие Законы, Указы, Положения, Правила в части эксплуатации шин претерпели изменения. В том числе Правила ЕЭК ООН №30 (ЕДИНООБРАЗНЫЕ ПРЕДПИСАНИЯ, КАСАЮЩИЕСЯ ОФИЦИАЛЬНОГО УТВЕРЖДЕНИЯ ПНЕВМАТИЧЕСКИХ ШИН ДЛЯ АВТОТРАНСПОРТНЫХ СРЕДСТВ И ИХ ПРИЦЕПОВ) и ЕЭК ООН №54 (ЕДИНООБРАЗНЫЕ ПРЕДПИСАНИЯ, КАСАЮЩИЕСЯ ОФИЦИАЛЬНОГО УТВЕРЖДЕНИЯ ПНЕВМАТИЧЕСКИХ ШИН ТРАНСПОРТНЫХ СРЕДСТВ НЕИНДИВИДУАЛЬНОГО ПОЛЬЗОВАНИЯ И ИХ ПРИЦЕПОВ). Согласно данным Правилам определяют следующие категории использования шин:
1. «Обычная шина» (означает шину, предназначенную для обычного, повседневного использования на дорогах).
2. «Шина специального назначения» (означает шину, предназначенную для смешанного использования как на дорогах, так и вне дорог или для иного специального использования. Эти шины предназначены прежде всего для приведения транспортного средства в движение и поддержания его движения в условиях бездорожья).
3. «Зимняя шина» (означает шину, у которой рисунок протектора, материал протектора или конструкция предназначены прежде всего для обеспечения на снегу более высоких показателей, чем у обычной шины, в том что касается ее способности приводить транспортное средство в движение или поддерживать его движение).
Таким образом, понятие «всесезонной шины» исключено.
В части маркировки в данных Правилах указывается: надпись "M+S", "M&S", "M.S", если шина относится к категории использования «зимняя шина» или если шина относится к категории использования «шина специального назначения».
На данной резине катаюсь с 18 марта, т.е. и снег и лужы и грязь резина повидала.
По льду в горку(в гаражах, где колея на колее) заехали без пробуксовки и включения пониженной и блокировки. В деревне по снегу в пол диска R16 машина шла уверенно и не буксуя(с включенной пониженной), там же 31 марта в грязи после тракторов проехали.
Поставил после ВЛИ-5, машина преобразилась, пропали шумы и вибрации, машина стала рулиться намного лучше.
На шиномонтажке немного поругались, но отбалансировали, перед 0\0 зад 10\10
Отличная шоссейная резина (для лета), бесшумная, не аквапланирует, держит дорогу.
Недостатки:
В грязи замыливается, абсолютно не предназначена для зимы, твердая уже при -25С
Комментарий:
Отъездил 5 месяцев зимой, на льду и на накатаном снегу едешь как на коньках, не тормозит не поворачивает. Хорошая резина для лета и шоссе!!! Эксплуатация зимой закончилась ДТП, автомобиль (ВАЗ-21214 АБС) не смог не повернуть и остановиться на 30 км/ч.
9 лет назад, Самара
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