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Посредственная шина во всем
Дорогая цена
Шумная, как более дешёвый данлоп
Управляемость тоже обычная
Торможение - чуть передавал и юз
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На примиум сегмент как её позиционируют не тянет. Прошла 2 сезона. Нет шипов совсем. Стиль езды спокойный, в основном на машине ездит жена. Первая шина за мой опыт которая через сезон потеряла половину шипов, на второй перед остался совсем без шипов, ну а за 3 сезон о что до этого стояло сзади- поставил вперёд и к февралю шипы кончились. До этого ездил всегда на хаке. Через 5 лет продавал машину с зимними колёсами с шипами процентов на 70. А это хоть и сделано в Франции - г...но. На второй машине тайландский данлоп через 2 сезона сохранил почти все шипы
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
kdv@rsc74.ru, добрый день! Нам жаль, что вы столкнулись с проблемами при эксплуатации наших шин. Напоминаем, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы. Если будут дополнительные вопросы по эксплуатации, рекомендуем обратиться на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08.
kdv@rsc74.ru, добрый день! Нам жаль, что вы столкнулись с проблемами при эксплуатации наших шин. Напоминаем, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы. Если будут дополнительные вопросы по эксплуатации, рекомендуем обратиться на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08.
Добрый день. Если не ошибаюсь (судя по фото) большая часть шипов не выпала, а обломилась. У меня была такая же проблема - после 2-х сезонов не стало около 70% шипов. Продавец объяснил, что была некая проблема с производителем шипов, которая уже устранена. Шины отправили на экспертизу и признали гарантийным случаем. Взамен прислали новые. Сезон прошел (15тыс. км) - потерял 1 шип. Остальные на месте. Обломанных нет.
Управляемостью шин доволен. До этого эксплуатировал шины HAKKAPELIITTA. Автомобиль - Volkswagen Touareg
Добрый день. Если не ошибаюсь (судя по фото) большая часть шипов не выпала, а обломилась. У меня была такая же проблема - после 2-х сезонов не стало около 70% шипов. Продавец объяснил, что была некая проблема с производителем шипов, которая уже устранена. Шины отправили на экспертизу и признали гарантийным случаем. Взамен прислали новые. Сезон прошел (15тыс. км) - потерял 1 шип. Остальные на месте. Обломанных нет.
Управляемостью шин доволен. До этого эксплуатировал шины HAKKAPELIITTA. Автомобиль - Volkswagen Touareg
Шипы полный отстой ( ломаются и внутри остаются одни сердечники) за 8 тыс на одном колесе 29 шипов сломало ( именно сломаны) более того эти шины только до -25. Потом они тупо думают. Что там за рецептура состава остаётся догадываться. А потом при начале движения ты едешь как на квадратных колесах и подскакиваешь
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Мишлен уже не Мишлен. Больше никогда не куплю этого производителя
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Andrey Muravev, добрый день! Нам жаль, что у вас остались такие впечатления. Пожалуйста, обратитесь на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08, специалисты подскажут, что можно сделать в вашей ситуации. Обращаем ваше внимание, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы.
Andrey Muravev, добрый день! Нам жаль, что у вас остались такие впечатления. Пожалуйста, обратитесь на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08, специалисты подскажут, что можно сделать в вашей ситуации. Обращаем ваше внимание, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы.
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Александр С., добрый день! Уровень шума в салоне автомобиля генерируются далеко не только шинами: аэродинамическая составляющая, звук от работы ДВС и элементов подвески и так далее. Неровности дорожного полотна также создают акустические вибрации (на это влияет даже размер фракций асфальта), которые передаются на автомобиль через точки контакта - шины. При замене изношенной шины на новую первые километры может казаться, что новая шина более шумная. Это связано с тем, что у новой шины рисунок протектора выше изношенной шины. После периода обкатки уровень шума должен снизиться.
Александр С., добрый день! Уровень шума в салоне автомобиля генерируются далеко не только шинами: аэродинамическая составляющая, звук от работы ДВС и элементов подвески и так далее. Неровности дорожного полотна также создают акустические вибрации (на это влияет даже размер фракций асфальта), которые передаются на автомобиль через точки контакта - шины. При замене изношенной шины на новую первые километры может казаться, что новая шина более шумная. Это связано с тем, что у новой шины рисунок протектора выше изношенной шины. После периода обкатки уровень шума должен снизиться.
255\55 R18 LR Discovery 2, заводской размер.
За 2 сезона (~ 20 т.км.) половина шипов обломана!!!
В третьем сезоне подразумеваю, что их не останется совсем!!!
До этого были Toyo Open Country I/T ни одного шипа не вылетело за 3 сезона эксплуатации, но было много проколов, пришлось поменять. И по-итогу деньги на ветер выброшены.
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Олег П., нам жаль, что у вас остались такие впечатления. Обращаем ваше внимание, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы.
Олег П., нам жаль, что у вас остались такие впечатления. Обращаем ваше внимание, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы.
За 2 сезона вылетело около половины шипов. На мокром и сухом асфальте довольно сильно шумят, но это можно пережить, когда обкатываются шум до 100 км/час становится приемлемым. Главный их недостаток --- это то, что если на асфальте присутствует хоть немного свежего или укатанного снега, то машину постоянно сносит, приходится постоянно подруливать, на газ давить очень осторожно, тормозить начинать заранее с большой дистанции. На льду вообще не держат. По зимней трассе ездить просто опасно, --- малейшее перестроение может привести к заносу с не предсказуемыми последствиями. Сам всё это на себе испытал --- никому другому не пожелаю.
Стаж больше 30 лет.
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Эксплуатировал данные шины на Туареге NF 4.2 tdi в размерности 275/45 R20. К примеру на прошлом Туареге GP 4.2 FSI ездил на Bridgestone Ice Cruiser 7000 в размерности 255\55 R18 и всё было на порядок лучше и более предсказуемо.
Lava Ge, ерунда полная -на кайене на асфальте со льдом тормозит адекватно, на мокром асфальте адекватно также, на сухом асфальте вообще хорошо тормозит, нет раскачки, кренов, как на летней резине ощущение, тиха мягкая резина . За сезон потерял 4 шипа из двух передних покрышек
Lava Ge, ерунда полная -на кайене на асфальте со льдом тормозит адекватно, на мокром асфальте адекватно также, на сухом асфальте вообще хорошо тормозит, нет раскачки, кренов, как на летней резине ощущение, тиха мягкая резина . За сезон потерял 4 шипа из двух передних покрышек
Ge Lava, всё что вы написали о данной шине, не имеет никакого к ней отношения! Рискну предположить, что все ваши претензии связанны с неправильным выбором размера шин! У меня водительский стаж меньше чем у вас, но всё же дам вам совет: зимнюю резину надо ставить заводского размера или меньше ширина!
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Константин Ф., добрый день! Нам жаль, что вы столкнулись с подобной проблемой. Пожалуйста, обратитесь на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08. Наши специалисты подскажут, что можно сделать в вашей ситуации.
Торможение очень плохое, шина сразу же идёт на юз.
Шипы почти все выпали на второй сезон после 20 тыс. км. эксплуатации.
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Шины MICHELIN Latitude X-Ice North 2 + 255/50 R19 107T, приобрёл полтора года назад осенью 2015 года.
Стаж вождения более 30 лет
Эксплуатирую в щадящем режиме, гонки на автомобиле не устраивал, проехал на этих шинах два зимних сезона в пределах 20000 км.
Шина дорогу держит хорошо - 4 баллов.
Резина мягкая, ямы "глотает" - 3 балла.
Резина относительно не шумная, на 3 балла.
Шипы - в первый год был небольшой шум от шипов, на второй год, почти все шипы выпали, осталось около 25%, шума стало ещё меньше - 2 балл.
Торможение на этих шинах ниже среднего - 2 балла.
До экстренного торможения лучше не доводить, так как шина сразу же идёт на юз, от этого тормозной путь очень большой даже на низкой скорости 20 км/ч, может привести к ДТП - 1 балл.
Журавлёв Владимир, ерунда полная на тяжелом кайене на асфальте покрытом льдом адекватно тормозит, вот на нокиан r2 на липучке gle мерседес вообще не тормозит на асфальте покрытом льдом, на абске едет ,скользит. На сухом асфальте управляемость как летом на летней резине на мишлене, нет кренов , раскачки. Ездил и 120-140 по кольцевой автодороге и потери шипов за один сезон по пару шипов из передних покрышек. Шины эти делали специально для тяжелых спортивных джипов и там такие идиоты, что сделали то, что не тормозит?
Журавлёв Владимир, ерунда полная на тяжелом кайене на асфальте покрытом льдом адекватно тормозит, вот на нокиан r2 на липучке gle мерседес вообще не тормозит на асфальте покрытом льдом, на абске едет ,скользит. На сухом асфальте управляемость как летом на летней резине на мишлене, нет кренов , раскачки. Ездил и 120-140 по кольцевой автодороге и потери шипов за один сезон по пару шипов из передних покрышек. Шины эти делали специально для тяжелых спортивных джипов и там такие идиоты, что сделали то, что не тормозит?
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