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Классная резина,катаюсь 5мес и 8т.км.управляемость,гребет как трактор))
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Типа шумит, но это же шипы... У меня нормальная шумка в машине(НИССАН Мурано).. Поэтому не считаю это как недостаток.
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Идут вечные споры, что лучше, липучка или шипы…мои наблюдения-ездил на липучке Nokian hakkapeliitta r2 6лет(3комплекта поменял на двух машинах), сейчас купил шипы Michelin Latitude X-ICE North 2 +,Я считаю, что липучка классная резина(для города), тихая, гребет не хуже шипов(если свежая) но…если машина весит 2т и более, то только шипы.Никаких напрягов на асфальте не заметил, на любом покрытии отлично.В недавние снегопады ездил по нечищенным дорогам где снега намело в 30-40см(колею прокатывал), шипы гребут и машина как трактор везде проезжает, а у друга на лексусе LX стоит липучка, ламели забились снегом и он не мог из колеи выехать сразу, с 10раза за счёт 360л.с. и выбрался,сказал, чтобы ещё липучку, да никогда…
Супер классная резина. Рулится киа соренто как по рельсам. Размер 236/60 р18. Снег, вода, лёд всё огонь!!!! Сезон 2020/2021 зима очень снежная, я в восторге. Ни одного шипа не потерял.
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Советую всем, кто хочет взять мишек. Резина супер!!! Шума минимум! Гудели первые 500 км.
Мягкая, комфортная, хорошая курсовая устойчивость, не чувствует колею.
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Шум.
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Шины 235/60 R18 107T XL X-Ice North 2+, производство 2018г, 18 неделя, страна Венгрия. Автомобиль Audi Q5.
Боковина у шины средняя по мягкости, т.к. маркировка XL. Сам протектор очень мягкий. Благодаря этому резина плавно катится и хорошо глотает стыки и мелкие ямы. Зуд от дороги не передаёт.
Рулится конечно же не как летняя, есть некая валкость, но для зимней резины это нормально. Курсовая устойчивость по асфальту на высоких скоростях отличная, подруливать не надо. Просто выбираешь направление и машина едет как по рельсам. Колею не чувствует совсем. В случае заноса автомобиль очень хорошо выравнивается, скольжения плавные и безопасные, в отличие от резких срывов липучки Nokian Hakkapeliitta R.
Сцепление на гладком льду среднее среди шипованных шин, т.к. мало шипов. Но значительно выше чем у липучки Nokian Hakkapeliitta R. На остальных покрытиях сцепление отличное. Придраться не к чему.
Теперь о минусах. Шум от шин похож на гул протектора или как будто развалились ступичные подшипники. Начинается с 40 км/ч, пик приходится как раз на самые ходовые скорости 80-120 км/ч. В этом плане шины похожи на Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7-8. Видимо сказывается протектор ёлочка. Сами шипы слышны только при открытых окнах.
Зимние шины Continental IC2 и Gislaved NF200 тише в разы и не создают такого дискомфорта.
Резина прошла один сезон. Все шипы на месте, износ минимальный. Фото приложил.
Считаю, что шина переоценена и должна стоить дешевле. Тогда можно было бы простить шум и средние тормозные свойства на льду. А так шине приходится конкурировать с Continental, и эту борьбу Michelin проигрывает. Для А-брэнда непозволительно выпускать продукцию со слабыми местами. На момент покупки более новых моделей в данном размере у Michelin не было.
PS: После установки летних шин GoodYear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 в машине стало значительно тише.
Отлично держит дорогу, в морозы не дубеет, шум умеренный.
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Пока нет.
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Отлично себя ведёт, в эксплуатации третий сезон, все шипы на своих местах потерь нет. Авто Geely Atlas эксплуатируется в г.Сургут ХМАО-ЮГРА морозы до -56.
Роман Ш., так их же сняли с производства в 2019 или 20 году, не помню точно. А в 2018 году по-моему их начали делать в россии, так, что вам возможно повезло взять качественные. Сам езжу на 16 годе, производство не в россии, проблем нет, шипы почти все на месте. Те, кто брал позже - российские, говорят намного хуже, шипы вылетают.
Роман Ш., так их же сняли с производства в 2019 или 20 году, не помню точно. А в 2018 году по-моему их начали делать в россии, так, что вам возможно повезло взять качественные. Сам езжу на 16 годе, производство не в россии, проблем нет, шипы почти все на месте. Те, кто брал позже - российские, говорят намного хуже, шипы вылетают.
Заказывал 12.10.2021 года зимнюю резину MICHELIN Latitude X-Ice North 2 + в размере 235/65 r18, зимняя шипованная. Заказ привезли, принимал коллега на работе. После осмотра вечером товара было выявлено, что дата изготовления резины 48 неделя 2018 года!!! Магазин BlackTires продает товар, которому уже 3 года!!! Остерегайтесь, а лучше избегайте покупок в данном магазине, мошенники!
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Спасибо за отзыв! Согласно исследованиям компании Мишлен, старение шин – не временной процесс, а эксплуатационный. Поэтому для оценки характеристик шин важна не дата их изготовления, а дата установки на автомобиль и вытекающие из нее время и условия эксплуатации. При правильном хранении воздействие на шины оказывают только небольшие перепады температур на складе хранения. Подробнее о результатах исследований и наших рекомендациях можно прочитать на нашем сайте: www.michelin.ru/auto/news/year-of-production
Спасибо за отзыв! Согласно исследованиям компании Мишлен, старение шин – не временной процесс, а эксплуатационный. Поэтому для оценки характеристик шин важна не дата их изготовления, а дата установки на автомобиль и вытекающие из нее время и условия эксплуатации. При правильном хранении воздействие на шины оказывают только небольшие перепады температур на складе хранения. Подробнее о результатах исследований и наших рекомендациях можно прочитать на нашем сайте: www.michelin.ru/auto/news/year-of-production
19.11.21г. купил 255/55 R18 Ran Flat на Туарег, сразу услышал неравномерный гул начиная с 60км/ч, было ощущение неотбаллансированного колеса. Два раза заезжал на баллансировку, проверили диски, заехал к диллеру WV на диагностику ходовой, снова на баллансировку. Едет ровно , никуда не тянет, в руль не бьет. Звук неравномерно гудящих колес остался. В чем может быть причина , может кто подскажет?
19.11.21г. купил 255/55 R18 Ran Flat на Туарег, сразу услышал неравномерный гул начиная с 60км/ч, было ощущение неотбаллансированного колеса. Два раза заезжал на баллансировку, проверили диски, заехал к диллеру WV на диагностику ходовой, снова на баллансировку. Едет ровно , никуда не тянет, в руль не бьет. Звук неравномерно гудящих колес остался. В чем может быть причина , может кто подскажет?
Шипы полный отстой ( ломаются и внутри остаются одни сердечники) за 8 тыс на одном колесе 29 шипов сломало ( именно сломаны) более того эти шины только до -25. Потом они тупо думают. Что там за рецептура состава остаётся догадываться. А потом при начале движения ты едешь как на квадратных колесах и подскакиваешь
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Мишлен уже не Мишлен. Больше никогда не куплю этого производителя
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Andrey Muravev, добрый день! Нам жаль, что у вас остались такие впечатления. Пожалуйста, обратитесь на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08, специалисты подскажут, что можно сделать в вашей ситуации. Обращаем ваше внимание, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы.
Andrey Muravev, добрый день! Нам жаль, что у вас остались такие впечатления. Пожалуйста, обратитесь на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08, специалисты подскажут, что можно сделать в вашей ситуации. Обращаем ваше внимание, что перед эксплуатацией шипованных шин необходимо провести их обкатку в пределах 800-1000 км. Скорость движения при обкатке не должна превышать 70 км/ч, без резких поворотов, торможений и ускорений. Это обусловлено особенностями эксплуатации шипованных шин, которые подразумевают предварительную подготовку шин для долгой и эффективной работы.
Шипы начинают ломаться пополам после 10 000км массово мигрируют. Шипов по стандарту мало, зацеп 1.2-1.5 мм, ездить надо очень аккуратно, а шумит как на обычных шинах с большим количеством шипов.
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Очень разочарован в данной шине. Не за что не покупайте. Покупал только из-за того что бренд Мишлен, производство Франция. Перед покупкой знал что мало шипов и что зацеп 1.2-1.5 мм, и ездить надо аккуратно, но то что шипы будут массово ломаться на второй год хотя езжу очень осторожно, этого не ожидал. Многие пользователи пишут что вылетают шипы. Так вот знайте, и посмотрите внимательно так как половина шипа остается в гнезде, а верхняя часть отламывается и вылетает, такого я еще нигде не видел. Производитель явно что-то намудрил с качеством шипа. В итоге решил найти представителя в регионе и отправить шину по рекламации.
Продолжение: надо отдать должное компании Мишлен, заменили шины по гарантии.
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Владимир С., сожалеем, что у вас сложилось такое мнение о наших шинах. Пожалуйста, обратитесь на горячую линию по номеру 8 (800) 700-22-08, наши специалисты подскажут, что можно сделать в вашей ситуации.
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