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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
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Понравился компактный,быстрее нагревается и экономичнее чем 300 мл по эл, После De’Longhi E820 отлично,
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2 года назадБлагоево
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Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Мощность, гибкость в работе, универсальность, стабильность результатов, возможность развиваться.
Недостатки:
Если у вас прямые руки и есть желание пользоваться машинкой дальше - минусов нет, все что не нравится можно в ней исправить легко и за 3 копейки.
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И так, взял БУ за 25тыр. Машинка 2015 года, за это время в ней поменяли только помпу (Улька), стоимость замены 2000 и самостоятельная замена. Заменили шток каппучинатора, т.к. во всех Lelit есть детская болячка с подтекающими каппучинаторами, замена штока занимает 1 час и 2500 рублей за новый латунный шток. Далее по работе с машинкой, сразу дам несколько общих советов чтобы не разочароваться в ней из-за неверный действий: используйте только свежее зерно от обжарщиков (не покупайте старое зерно в магазинах), срок жизни зерна 1-2 месяца. Используйте воду с верной минерализацией 130-250 (я лью Святой источник или Бонакву). Купите к ней электронные весы с таймером и шкалой 0.1грамм. Купите бездонный холдер и фильтр типа VST, чтобы проще было разобраться с приготовлением и следить за изменением помола\времени экстракции, т.к. корзина четко под 18 грамм кофе. Купите хорошую кофемолку с жерновами (ручная 4-8 тысяч или электро 15-20 тысяч). Машина дает безграничные возможности при домашнем использовании или небольшом кафе. На ней можно воспроизвести любой кофейный напиток, раскрыть зерно. Я понял, что существует неимоверная куча вкусов кофе, которые никогда не почувствуешь без эспрессо-машины.
6 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 103808066
Срок жизни зерна 1-2 месяца ? Да что вы говорите,? Не рассказывайте больше об этом никому, люди смеяться будут.
Срок жизни зерна 1-2 месяца ? Да что вы говорите,? Не рассказывайте больше об этом никому, люди смеяться будут.
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Простота и надежность конструкции, качество материалов, отсутствие ненужных опций. Профессиональный размер группы. Соотношение цена - качество, более чем! Круче только La Marzocco))
Недостатки:
На мой взгляд один недостаток: отсутствие автоматического выключения при длительном неиспользовании.
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Знаете, пользуюсь уже больше чем полгода, устройством этим доволен как слон!!! Никаких отзывов никогда не писал, но тут просто хотел посмотреть сколько такая штука теперь стоит, после обвала рубля, ну и наткнулся на отзыв, (единственный кстати) с которым я не согласился бы в плане недостатков)) Товарищ пишет, что плохая емкость для воды. Бочек конечно достаточно прост, но в этом только плюсы)) Шланги в него опускаются через заливное отверстие - значит никогда ничего не протечет. Вытаскивать его для заливки совершенно не обязательно, я заливаю не вытаскивая из пятилитровой банки. Промахиваюсь редко. За то, просто удлиннив шланги можно запитать кофеварку от любого другого источника воды, например от той же пятилитровой баклажки, поставленной рядом, или вообще из 20-ти литровой канистры, спрятанной под столом. Слив из лотка, при таком устройстве кофемашины тоже организовать без проблем (есть куда врезать штуцер). Да и без этого лоток имеет достаточно большой объем, и прямоугольную форму, по этому его легко мыть. Еще человек писал про то, что затягивать группу нужно с большим усилием. Тут тоже не соглашусь. При хорошей прокладке такое впечатление что холдер достаточно только вставить в группу, даже поворачивать не надо, и он уже не течет. Другое дело что прокладка группы обычно теряет эластичность, если забыть кофеварку выключить на ночь. По этому я и написал в недостатки отсутствие таймера на выключение. Но при цене прокладки 200 руб это не столь серьезное наказание за забывчивость)), меняется она достаточно просто.
9 лет назадЛобня
Комментарий 100434833
Хадеев Николай, соглашусь! Тем более, машинка дает возможно как угодно её дорабатывать! Отсек для воды вообще можно освободить, или поставить свой резервуар из стекла. Люди из этой машины делают двухбойлерник, корпус позволяет это сделать.
Хадеев Николай, соглашусь! Тем более, машинка дает возможно как угодно её дорабатывать! Отсек для воды вообще можно освободить, или поставить свой резервуар из стекла. Люди из этой машины делают двухбойлерник, корпус позволяет это сделать.
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Качество! Портафильтр 58мм - потом можно покупать разные фильтры или портафильтры без дна. Сделан из латуни - тяжеленный, здоровый - держать приятно. PID регулятор позволяет всегда точно держать температуру пролива таблетки. Увеличенный бойлер. Подвижный паровой взбиватель молока, что позволяет под удобным углом держать питчер или наливать воду. Мощный ТЭН. Для вибронасосов работает негромко.
Недостатки:
Главный тихий ужас это конечно забавный бачок для воды: вонючая канистра за 3р из ОБИ на 2л. В такой машине могли бы и получше найти решение, доставить и ставить обратно его совсем неудобно. Пока поставишь обратно порежешь пальцы и расплескаешь воду. Через боковое окно плохо видно уровень воды Резиновой трубочки недостаточно на взбивателе для защиты рук от ожога, лучше петельку бы сделали из пластика. Одной рукой портавильтр в группе не затянуть - нужно прикладывать контрмомент к корпусу кофеварки. Пластиковый тэмпер оставляет желать лучшего - сразу улетел в помойку. (Российское представителство,в котором я и покупал кофеварку подарили сразу хороший темпер с деревянной ручкой - я был очень приятно удивлен.)
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Купил взамен отданной кофеварки обратно магазин, которая оказалась хламом, хотя бренд именитый - все дела. Эта модель хоть и дороже. но качество офигительное, в сто раз лучше, Все сделано аккуратно, красиво. Выключатели даже излишне тугие. Хотел написать в недостатках, что долго прогревается, но это необходимость, хотя можно схитрить и разогреть побыстрее. Такой здоровый кусок латуни быстро не прогреешь. Пока только учусь делать эспрессо, но уже что-то получается. Сразу понял, что моя кофемолка (хоть и с жерновами) - хлам поганый, теперь нужно разориться и на хорошую молку. Покупать такую кофеварку без хорошей молки - бесполезно, хорошего кофе не получишь. Пока спасаюсь двойным просеиванием помола, но это конечно онанизм страшный. Бачок конечно неудобный, но думаю сделать из оргстекла и с ручкой и крышкой на заказ, ибо таких фирм очень много. Обратно вставить не получится нормально, выскальзывает из рук и сантиметровое свободное падение бачка заканчивается всплеском воды из бочка. Ну и трубочки просто закинутые внутрь бочка - слишком простое решение. На моей старой кофеварке, было все намного благороднее сделано. Проще купить вороночку и просто заливать воду извне по мере необходимости. Но вот как его мыть когда там зацветут водоросли и бактерии, мне непонятно. Но видимо, в этой кофеварке акцентируется внимание на бойлере с 58мм группой и ПИД регулятором. И именно благодаря этому вы можете получить при определенной сноровке настоящий итальянский эспрессо! А учиться этому долго, т к это не так просто как кажется на первый взгляд.Посмотрим сколько эта кофеварка отпахает, надеюсь, что долго. Не смотря на недостатки эта кофеварка классная и нужная кофеману вещь. Кстати совет: заливайте воду только после многоступечатого обратноосмотического фильтра, иначе накипь очень быстро убьет ТЭН. И после готовки проливайте вхолостую группу и пустой портафильтр, а то кофейные масла высыхая превращаются в проблему.
10 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 100251711
Орликовский Николай, обратный осмос убивает все хорошее, что есть в воде, включая и ее вкус. Осмос можно использовать только с последующей минерализацией. Достаточно просто покупной мягкой воды, либо воды после системы водоподготовки (не осмос), у меня такая стоит в загородном доме - пить можно из под крана, вода очень вкусная, накипь не образуется от нее вообще, и при этом это не дистилят, в воде есть минерализация. А чистить кофеварки очень легко - заливается уксус с водой в соотношении 1:1 и прогоняется полный бачок этой смеси через группу, и где-то 1/4 можно через паровую трубку, если ей пользуются. И все, накипь вся уйдет. После этого промыть полным бачком чистой воды.
Орликовский Николай, обратный осмос убивает все хорошее, что есть в воде, включая и ее вкус. Осмос можно использовать только с последующей минерализацией. Достаточно просто покупной мягкой воды, либо воды после системы водоподготовки (не осмос), у меня такая стоит в загородном доме - пить можно из под крана, вода очень вкусная, накипь не образуется от нее вообще, и при этом это не дистилят, в воде есть минерализация. А чистить кофеварки очень легко - заливается уксус с водой в соотношении 1:1 и прогоняется полный бачок этой смеси через группу, и где-то 1/4 можно через паровую трубку, если ей пользуются. И все, накипь вся уйдет. После этого промыть полным бачком чистой воды.
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