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Опыт использования:
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Достоинства:
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Недостатки:
Встроенная клавиатура Посредственная фронтальная камера Вес (сравнительно конкурентов)
Комментарий:
Как пользователь гуглофонов слегка офигел от отсутствия обновлений. Версию с пером нет смысла покупать, очень мало приложений ее поддерживает. Клавиатурой внешней невозможно пользоваться, производитель поменял стандартную смену раскладки, которая не поддерживается встроенной виртуальной клавиатурой. Техподдержка вежливо посылает
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Андроид-оболочка от Хуавей. Инженерный просчет в модулях WiFi и Bluetooth
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Покупал только ради IPS экрана. У нему претензий почти нет, кроме незначительного падения яркости при изменении угла обзора. Основная проблема это совместная работа модулей WiFi и Bluetooth. При включенных наушниках скорость WiFi падает более чем в два раза при 2,4 Ghz и более чем в двадцать раз на частоте 5Ghz!!! Если при 2.4Ghz еще как-то можно пользоваться интернетом, то на 5Ghz скорость падает практически до нуля. Второй очень неприятные момент связан с ПО от хуавей. Как всегда производитель просто натягивает смартфонную оболочку на планшет (которая тоже надо сказать не вершина качества). Нет никакой оптимизации, изменения размера DPI, нормального двухоконного режима, проблему с уведомлениями так и не могут решить и т.д. и т.п. В Хуавей так и не научились и не поняли как делать софт. Эти проблемы и 7 лет назад были и сейчас ничего не изменилось.
4 года назадМосква
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несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Легкий, удобно держать в руках, неплохо выглядит, достаточно мощный процессор, хороший звук, демократичная цена
Недостатки:
не подходит игроманам Олеофобное покрытие очень нестойкое Чувствительность сенсорного экрана низкая Неудобное расположение кнопок Отсутствие разъема jack не очень естественные цвета Откровенно плохая камера
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Аппарат совершенно непригоден для игр, требующих точного позиционирования курсора, например стрелялки, где прицелом управляет палец. Чувствительность курсора к движениям пальца - отвратительная. На очень короткие движения пальца курсор реагирует с опозданием и рывком. В частности, в популярной Sniper Arena, прицелиться можно только подводя перекрестье прицела издалека с одной стороны, корректировка на цели невозможна, проще отвести прицел подальше и снова подвести точно. О скорости при этом говорить не приходится. Писал в техподдержку, ответили, что "сенсорика устройства настроена с фиксированными параметрами и не регулируется". Справедливости ради, должен заметить, что все это касается только управления пальцами, со стилусом таких люфтов нет, но стилусом не очень то поиграешь. Олеофобное покрытие экрана очень нестойкое. Через две недели эксплуатации появились проплешины, заметные на глаз. На моем айфоне такого нет даже после трех лет эксплуатации. Вообщем, покупкой разочарован, надо было брать айпад(((
5 лет назадВолгоград
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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Экран не плохой, довольно чёткий Ещё нравились заявленные характеристики Звук хороший, но в какой то из задач немного фонил.
Недостатки:
Экрану ЯВНО не хватает яркости, даже на максимуме. Я брал с витрины, может в этом дело, но разъём зарядки уже был с люфтом. Металлический корпус скользит в руках, держать не удобно. Быстрой зарядки нет, идёт медленно, хотя 2 ампера. После покупки сделал заводской сброс и удалил почти все программы, свободной оперативки было более 2.5 Гб, но ощущение того, что что то тормозит, не покидало. Насыщенность цветов и глубина цвета печалят. Ему не хватает ни цветов ни яркости. Нет вспышки
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Покупкой остался недоволен, благо мне поменяли на другой планшет южно корейской компании. Может пойдет детям или неискушенным людям, но тем, кто привык к высокому качеству, думаю будет не очень по душе. Все таки это Китай, и пока он не соответствует высокому качеству несмотря на вроде бы хорошие характеристики.
4 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
1) Звук динамиков 2) Размер экрана 3) Предустановленный офис 4)Быстрая зарядка от комплектного блока 5) Размеры корпуса 6) LTE
Недостатки:
1) Не всегда хватает яркости экрана (буквально 10% не хватает) 2) Автономность 3) Камеры 4) ОПТИМИЗАЦИЯ 5) Отсутствие 3,5 мм 6) Нагрев 7) Чехол-клавиатура
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Для торопливых - Покупка крайне не однозначная. До этого владел Ipad 2 и mediapad M3 8.4 LTE 64Gb. Яблоко живо до сих пор, хоть и инвалид. М3 мал для меня. Основное поле деятельности планшета - не сложные игры, Ютуб, кино и интернет. Очень понравился экран. Хорошая передача цвета. Есть проблемы с яркостью (смотрел видео с ютуба и хотел выкрутить яркость сильнее, но уже 100%). Смотреть можно. Размер экрана - смотреть фильмы одно удовольствие. Руками держать удобно и для меня это важно. Крайне любопытное расположение элементов планшета - если держать его в альбомной ориентации камера будет сверху по центру, датчик разблокировки справа на боковой грани, громкость и выключение на правой боговой грани и разъем зарядки там же, но сильно внизу ... Планшет имеет прямоугольную форму и от этого такое расположение. В комплекте идет быстрая зарядка, которая заряжает 7500 за 110 минут. К сожалению, у планшета ужасная автономность. Выключая все на ночь (авиа режим) узнаю, что утром исчезло 6%. Куда ??? Посмотреть ю туб на 80% яркости через штатные динамики за час убьет почти 19%. Ipad 2 - 10%. Казалось бы экран современнее и аккумулятор больше, но нет. Аудио планшет и без 3,5 мм .... крайне спорно, учитывая тот факт, что самые лучшие уши по звучанию это проводные. Камеры даже в хорошем освещении снимает шумно ... ладно едем дальше. Планшет люто греется. Посмотрел ю туб по wi-fi будь добр - 56 градусов. Поиграл в пошаговую игру с минимальной анимацией 30 минут - 68 градусов. Pubg боюсь пробовать.И теперь вишенка на торте - оптимизации нет. Очищаю оперативную память и "Ваш телефон в оптимальном состоянии". Вы серьезно ? Игры тормозят и подлагивают (по сравнению с P20 Pro). Железа хватает, тормозит именно ПО. Это андроид натянутый на большой телефон не оптимизированный под экран. Про эксклюзивы и прочее молчу. Большую роль сыграло, что у меня телефон андроид. Сейчас подумать - 80% взял бы яблоко. Кому нужно для видео или простых задач - берите более доступные модели.
5 лет назадМосква
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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Время автономной работы Соединение в Wi-Fi (в отличие от смартфонов той же фирмы тут реально получает 500мб/с, если такая скорость имеется) Возможность подключения клавиатуры.
Недостатки:
Плохой многооконный режим. Некоторые приложения, которые были предустановлены так и не работали, просто черный экран.
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С каждым обновлением, уважаемые разработчики портят функции хорошего планшета. Купил его взамен Galaxy Tab S2, у которого был крутой чехол-клавиатура, но начал тормозит. Тут сначала испортили работу с двумя приложениями одновременно (только можешь выбрать первое приложение, потому что для второго ничего нет). Использую планшет для показа PDF, видео и для аудио, поэтому работа с двумя приложениями очень важна. Также список открытых приложение был испорчен уважаемыми разработчиками. И третий косяк - испорчена работа родной клавиатуры. Служба поддержки бесполезна, каждый раз придется заново все объяснить, даже когда отправляешь им всю переписку. Просят удалить данные от Swiftkey, иногда помогает, иногда нет. Просят сделать сброс и понизить версию, но проблема с многооконным режимом остается. При этом назойливое уведомление об обновлении прошивки, значит портит работу с клавиатурой, нельзя отключить. Об этом сообщил в службу поддержки и меня забанили.
4 года назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Очень хорошая производительность и при этом долго держит заряд. Играть на полной мощности можно часов 6-8 без подзарядки спокойно. Если просто сёрфить нэт, читать, работать в экселе - то хватает дня на 2. Подобную автономность встречал разве что у старых моделей Lenovo yoga, но там батарейка больше самого планшета. Можно совершать обычные мобильные звонки со стандартной предустановленной программы.
Недостатки:
Очень неудобная сенсорная кнопка. Дело даже не в том, что нужные команды завязаны на движения пальцем, которые у меня после месяца использования срабатывают через раз, а в том что она очень близко расположена к краю, и просто взяв планшет за боковые грани я задеваю его ладонью. Причём руки у меня довольно худые, как его держать более крупным людям я не представляю. Хотя возможно проблема решается подходящим чехлом/бампером. Ещё есть проблема и с кнопками питания/громкости, дело даже не в том, что они расположены нестандартно, к этому можно привыкнуть, а в том что они расположены на скруглении и находятся как бы под экраном планшета, поэтому нажимаются не сбоку, а немного сзади, из-за этого кнопки просто невозможно нажать не поднимая планшет со стола. Также присутствует слегка своеобразный андроид с вшитыми фишками от хуавей. И он не понимает слова НЕТ и при отказе от каких-либо функций будет регулярно делать повторные запросы на их включение.( хотя это больше проблема андроида в целом) Меня, например, постоянно преследует предложение о включении функции постоянного поиска сетей Wi-Fi в фоновом режиме. И ещё в лежачем положении объектив камеры трётся об стол стеклом из-за очень сильного выпирания из корпуса. Что мне кажется не очень полезно для камеры. Да и в целом камера так себе. Отсутствует 3,5 джек, тк я с этого планшета ещё и звоню, то каждый раз приходится кроме наушников доставать ещё и переходник. О звонках: очень странно работает регуляторы громкости/отключения звука, например беззвучный режим распространяется только на сигналы, все приложения будут работать с полной громкостью, более того нельзя настроить отдельно громкость для звонков и сообщений. К предыдущему: нестандартный разъём питания, иметь ещё один кабель может быть удобно далеко не всем, да и подзарядить первым попавшимся не получится. Слегка изогнутый по краям экран не позволит налепить любое подходящее по размеру стекло или плёнку, но это я уже придираюсь, вроде много кто такие использует.
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Ну в общем очень мощная и производительная машинка, приятно лежит в руках. Для игр и работы самое то, хотя и не очень удобная в эксплуатации из-за неудачно расположенной сенсорной и физических кнопок, отсутствия 3,5 джека, из-за чего я уже задолбался искать переходник для наушников при каждом звонке. Но производительность и сама возможность звонка реально того стоят.
5 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
Комментарий 101493555
Александр Апанасик, Насчет недостатков - плохому танцору вечно что-то определённое мешает......человек привыкает ко всему и учится человек многому......а если тарелочка без голубой каёмочки , так вы видели что брали!
Александр Апанасик, Насчет недостатков - плохому танцору вечно что-то определённое мешает......человек привыкает ко всему и учится человек многому......а если тарелочка без голубой каёмочки , так вы видели что брали!
Комментарий 101865540
Александр А., USB-C - уже давно вполне стандарт, вроде, даже apple на него собирается переходить..
Александр А., USB-C - уже давно вполне стандарт, вроде, даже apple на него собирается переходить..
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4 года назадСерафимович
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Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
яркий экран, не плохая батарея, хорошие углы обзора.
Недостатки:
АНДРОИД это самый большой недостаток. он сажает батарею, он постоянно тупит требует перезагрузки, для полноценной работы андроида мало. он не справляется ни с чес кроме просмотра. скрол инета, просмотр фильмов и прослушивание музыки еще можно делать. но блин этого так мало. найдите любой планшет и он будет делать тоже самое. вообще система минус.
Комментарий:
если вы хотите поиграть в игры в дороге, посмотреть новости в интернете или фильм то его можно взять, хотя можно взять и планшет за 10 тысяч. так же справится. если бы на нем была десятка то это была бы рабочая машина, а так это игрушка для гиков, которым некуда деть деньги. как и айпад оценка 2-
5 лет назадОренбург
Комментарий 102070737
Мне кажеться что что то у вас с руками или с головой , плашет отрабатвает на 100 % и автономность и дисплей и производительность самые топовые игры на ультра и даже нет ни малейшего намека на троллинг!
Мне кажеться что что то у вас с руками или с головой , плашет отрабатвает на 100 % и автономность и дисплей и производительность самые топовые игры на ультра и даже нет ни малейшего намека на троллинг!
Комментарий 102365631
Тут пишут отзыв о планшете, а не о операционной системе АНДРОИД
Тут пишут отзыв о планшете, а не о операционной системе АНДРОИД
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