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- Цена
- Производительность
- Встроенная графика в играх (подробнее в отзыве)
- Возможность буста видеоядра
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- Цена в магазинах РФ (заказал новый на Али в блистере за 7800 в магазине с кучей хороших отзывов - PYD Store)
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Предыстория: в своё время был обладателем ПК с игровой видеокартой, которую в разгар майнингового бума пришлось продать (нужны были деньги). С тех пор я зарёкся покупать процессоры без встройки, так как играть на Intel UHD 600 - это боль)
Изначально бюджет был ограничен, поэтому я собирал комп на Vega 7. Видеокарту планировал докупить, когда появятся деньги.
Мой конфиг:
Мать - Asus B450-A II (биос новый, процессор завёлся из коробки);
ОЗУ - Kingston Fury Beast 3600 (в биосе разогнал до 4000 в два клика на вкладке "Избранное", в асусовский AI tweaker не лез, профили в ручную не выставлял);
Процессор - R5 5600g (автоматически бустится до 4.5 ггц + я скачал Ryzen Master и разогнал встройку, передвинув ползунок с 1900 до 2300 с напряжением 1.175, веге 7 в биосе выделил 4 гига видеопамяти).
Производительностью в играх я, мягко говоря, был поражён. РДР 2 с высокими текстурами, в full hd (1920*1080), c FSR 2.1 в режиме качество выдаёт консольные 31 кадр в густонаселённом Сэн Дэни. В полях фпс поднимается до 35-37. Скриншот с настройками прикладываю (тени, воду, объёмный свет ставил на низкие). Собственно, другие игры в виде танков, КСки, Радуги и прочих будут работать прекрасно. Рим 2, например, на ультрах с двукратным сглаживанием и синхронизацией выдаёт 40-50 кадров. Сёгун 2 - аналогично. Скайрим - работает на высоких, Dishonored 2 - на высоких с низкими тенями и освещением. В аиде 64 процессор греется до 69-71 градусов (gammax 300 кулер).
Итог
Собственно, не знаю, нужна ли мне теперь видеокарта. Большинство игры до 2016 года работают прекрасно. Наконец-то технологии дошли до того, что на встройке можно играть в РДР 2 в Full HD на низко-высоких! Это невероятно! AMD молодцы. Даже если вам не нужна встройка рекомендую купить именно версию Ryzen 5 5600g, а не 5600X, так как разница в производительности примерно 7-10 процентов в играх не ощущается.
P.S. Если будут вопросы - пишите в комментарии.
+Свежая архитектура zen-3 и хорошая производительность на ядро и в многопотоке.
+Процессор сам по себе не смотрится таким обрубком, как прежние APU 3400g и ниже, по сути выдернутых из ноутбуков мутантов, а ощущается как полноценный десктоп.
+Монолитный кристалл - температуры при равных тепловыделениях с чиплетами ниже.
+Доступен ну просто неприлично серьезный разгон памяти за счёт нового контроллера памяти и его возможности работать на высоком напряжении V_SOC
+Тот самый неприличный разгон памяти значительно улучшает производительность встройки по сравнению с vega11 в старых APU
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Странно смотрится pci-e 3.0, когда сама же АМД топит за использование новых чипсетов и делает карты с pci-e 4.0 и 4-8 линиями
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Прилагаю прогоны в 3dmark timespy
1) с дискреткой и отключенной графикой, сток
2) на встройке без настроек и XMP4000CL19 (1 минута в биосе)
3) со снятыми лимитами потребления и ручной настройкой ОЗУ на 4133CL16 (15 минут в биосе и тестах).
Одновременное задействование встройки и ЦП в игрушках и подобных тестах даёт потребление порядка 65-75 Вт и чуть разжав лимиты, можно вернуть часть потерянной производительности, что видно из скринов.
Graphic score в этом бенче достаточно реалистично показывает производительность графики.
У средней gt1050 1730 балл, у 760 - 1670, тут порядка 1500-1600 в зависимости от разгона памяти.
Иными словами, хоть сколько то игровой встройку совсем не назовёшь, и звёзд с неба она не хватает, но если припрёт поиграть в того же ведьмака 3, то нативные 1080р, залоченные 30 фпс и средневысокие настройки она обеспечит. (На скрине все на высоких и вышло впритык по возможностям графики в самом людном месте в городе).
Как по мне, при стоимости в районе 20 тыс рублей или ниже - это замечательный вариант для законченного домашнего ПК из нового железа с возможностью поиграть в нетребовательный онлайн и для кино-ютуба-работы. Готовый системник на нём при нынешних ценах впишется в 40-50 тыс. И порядка 60 тыс, если собирать мини-пк.
Вполне годится и для дальнейшего апгрейда мощной видеокартой - из ограничений тут PCi-E 3 версии, но линий тут уже 16+4+4 на карту/ссд/чипсет, а не как в более ранних APU 8+4+4 и снижение производительности при использовании нормальных карт будет минимальное. Но для чисто игровых пк есть варианты однозначно поинтереснее.
Процессор уникален одновременно нормальной процессорной частью и мощнейшей на данный момент встройкой и аналогов на рынке особых не имеет, и если его возможности точно соответствуют вашим потребностям и не натягивать на него роль супер игрового ЦП, как сову на глобус, это замечательное приобретение за сумму до ~20 тыс. В будущем его подвинут 6000g, но до них ещё нужно дожить, а 5600g есть сейчас
Дмитрий Феничев, как считаете на замену 2200 G хороший вариант? Мать В450 так что думаю после обновления биоса встанет, память 8*2 по 3200mgz , система на М2 накопителе с nvme ?
Дмитрий Феничев, как считаете на замену 2200 G хороший вариант? Мать В450 так что думаю после обновления биоса встанет, память 8*2 по 3200mgz , система на М2 накопителе с nvme ?
G процессор AMD - это больше не ущербный проц с крутой видеокартой, это крутой современный проц с крутой видеокартой.
Гораздо более производительный контроллер памяти в сравнении с Zen2.
Очень низкое тепловыделение при штатных значениях питания на ядро.
Очень крутой авторазгон до 4.6Ghz на моей материнке.
С простенькими ОЗУ 3200Mhz на CL18 встройка работает лучше чем Nvidia 1030GT.
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Отмечу сразу, я пользовался Ryzen 3 2400G, Ryzen 5 2600, Ryzen 3 3200G и Ryzen 5 3400G, Ryzen 5 3500X, Ryzen 5 5500U. Имея за спиной такой большой багаж, могу смело утверждать: Переход с APU Zen1 на Zen2 практически ничего не давал потребителю, однако переход с APU Zen2 на Zen3 приобретает смысл. Если в своё время Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G всё ещё был спорным шестиядерным "огрызком", который стоил в разы дороже 3400G но давал скромный прирост как по части CPU так и GPU, то тут уже другая история. В 4650G был принцип - больше значит лучше, больше ядер, больше потоков. Но докупив к нему мощную дискретку вы разочаровались бы, производительность на ядро очень низкая, кеш обрезан, большие задержки памяти. При замене своего 3500X на 5600G в тестах памяти AIDA я получил сразу -10ns к задержке оперативной памяти, не изменяя тайминги и частоты получил 65ns вместо 75ns. Также подросли скорости чтения/записи ОЗУ примерно на 10%. Проц получил многие "фамильные ценности" от 5600Х, и потерял только часть кэша и линии pci. Моя материнка GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO-P любит "давать жару" на процы, поэтому сразу застолбил питание ядра CPU на значении 1.2v, попутно поигрался чуть с лимитами теплопакета и крайними значениями авторазгона на ядра. В итоге получил почти постоянные 4600Mhz авторазгона, максимальный нагрев 60 градусов с бюджетным башенным кулером, и прирост FPS в играх с дискреткой GTX 1050ti в районе 20% по сравнению с 3500X. Сказать что я доволен - всё равно что ничего не сказать. Наконец можно юзать APU в тяжёлые времена, а когда появятся деньги докупить видеокарту не меняя CPU на более производительный. Однозначно советую к покупке, особенно если найдёте дешевле 20к на вторичке.
Я добавил один скриншот с результатами тестов APU с топовой дискреткой, чтобы не быть голословным.
Не обладал достаточными знаниями в области ПК и лишними денежными средствами(покупка видеокарты), требовалось собрать железо в замен старому ноутбуку, для работы и для игры "Мир кораблей" с возможностью апгрейда в будущем. Выбор сделал в пользу камня 5600G, установив на плату от gigabyte auros elit v1 с комплектом памяти от Kingston furi 3200 (две плашки общего объема 16гб), блок питания 700 вт с бронзовым сертификатом ну и остальное. Для офисных задач идеально, что-то можно поделать с комфортом в Sony Vegas Pro, выше упомянутая игра идёт на высоких настройках с 40-50 фпс. Сборка ПК была в апреле 2023г. и обошлась в 33 тысячи без учёта монитора. На текущий момент приобретена видеокарта RTX 3060. С покупкой видеокарты скорее всего буду менять процессор, добавлять оперативную память, и, конечно, менять монитор. 5600 G от AMD это счастье для тех кто не располагает сразу всей суммой на покупку ПК, прекрасно справляется с офисными задачами, тянет какие-то игрушки, выручит и как временное решение и на постоянку.
Удивительно, но на процессорах без встроенного видеоядра очень странные показатели пропускной способности памяти, ниже фото ruzen 5600
НО на процессорах со встроенным видеоядром, как 5600G показатели адекватные (приложу скрин 5700G, так как результаты одинаковые, но 5600G не зафотал)
про 5600 вроде должен быть делитель 2:1 после 4000 mHz, но когда выставляешь 4000 показатели от 4066 не меняются, короче странное чтобы с процами без видеоядра (причем тестировали 5700 и показатели похожи)
5600 - это не 5600G без графики, это самостоятельное чиплетное изделие с отдельным кэшем L3 (или его частью - не погружался в вопрос) и отдельным контроллером PCIe 4.0. А у 5600G всё интегрировано в 1 кристалле, и в каких-то случаях это обязано давать преимущество, даже несмотря на меньший объём кэша. Может быть, в этом дело?
5600 - это не 5600G без графики, это самостоятельное чиплетное изделие с отдельным кэшем L3 (или его частью - не погружался в вопрос) и отдельным контроллером PCIe 4.0. А у 5600G всё интегрировано в 1 кристалле, и в каких-то случаях это обязано давать преимущество, даже несмотря на меньший объём кэша. Может быть, в этом дело?
достаточно производительный, для повседневных задач в самый раз.
Недостатки:
нету, только если кому-то нужна наклейка, её в комплекте не было
Комментарий:
Хороший процессор, не горячий, отлично справляется с современными играми, в моём случае в паре с RTX 3050. Упора в процессор нет в будущем планирую переход на RTX 4060TI, процессор справится.
Удобство в установке, производительность, малый нагрев
Недостатки:
Цена
Комментарий:
Брал для медиасервера, транскодинг почти любого 4к видео не потребялет больше 30%. При запуске двух-трёх, - не выше 60%. Т.к. активно только видеоядро, остальная мощность процессора в моём полном распоряжении
Для игр, если есть дискретная видеокарта, брать не рекомендую, - производительность упадёт в половину.
Завёлся с msi b 450 без проблем, для не требовательных пользователей идеальный вариант. Игры средне высокие настройки в те что мы играем тянет без проблем
стартанул из коробки на msi a520m pro с ОЗУ 2×8 3600Mhz взял штатку 3900
2 недели назад, Красноярск
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