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Купил эту плату, решил собрать изначально на встройке RX Vega, а потом при желании совершить апгрейд.\n\nНа старте взял:\n- корпус Thermaltake S100;\n- БП Thermaltake ToughpowerGrand RGB 650 Gold;\n- эту материнку;\n- процессор AMD Ryzen 5 3350g (хотел 3400g, но он практически везде пропал);\n- память Kingston HyperX Fury RGB DDR4-3200 2*8GB;\n- SSD Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB NVMe M.2;\n- охлаждение Cooler Master ML240L V2 RGB.\n\nВсе сразу заработало на ура и очень стабильно.\n\nС чем столкнулся: \n1. Память сначала запустилась на частоте 2400MHz. Танцы с бубном в биосе не помогли, система стопилась при запуске. Ларчик просто открывался - память нужно ставить всегда в слоты A2B2 (я этого раньше не знал). Увидел об этом инфо на overclockers, а потом оказалось, что это написано черным по белому в инструкции к материнской плате. Переставил планки, выставил XMP профиль в биосе, заработала на 3200. 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Хорошая плата - сделана качественно, 8+2 фаз питания, неплохие радиаторы VRM, много современных интерфейсов, в то же время ушли в прошлое VGA и DVI разъемы. Официально поддерживает все райзены всех поколений под сокет AM4 - от Ryzen 3 1200 до Ryzen 9 5950X. 4 разъема для вентиляторов-кулеров-помпы.
Недостатки:
Пока что существенных не обнаружил, но есть нюансы с подключением вентиляторов:
Докупил на верх корпуса два вентилятора на выдув Scythe Kaze Flex 140 Square RGB 300-1200 PWM - так вот, про одновременном подключении их к CHA_FAN1 или CHA_FAN2 через Y-кабель, они неправильно определяются и работают. Если подключить только один вентилятор, то через FanExpert правильно определяются параметры частот, подключаю второй, начинаются постоянные разгоны и работа на неправильных оборотах, при этом нормальные настройки выставить вручную невозможно.
Кстати, на разъеме CPU_FAN сейчас подключены три вентилятора Thermaltake Riing 120, они и определяются и настраиваются без проблем. Почему такое происходит с хвалеными Scythe - без понятия. Возможно не хватает тока, так что заказал кабель, чтобы питание взять через MOLEX от БП, а оборотами PWM управлять с платы и ,если и так не заведется, то заменю вентилятор на один 200-ку.
Пока что подключен только один из двух вентиляторов Scythe.
Комментарий:
В общем решил собрать компьютер, хотя до этого 20 лет пользовался исключительно ноутбуками и сейчас в основном ими пользуюсь. Видимо из-за карантинов-самоизоляций нужно было чем-то занять голову и руки, поэтому решил поиграться в состыковывание железа. Купил эту плату, решил собрать изначально на встройке RX Vega, а потом при желании совершить апгрейд.
На старте взял:
- корпус Thermaltake S100;
- БП Thermaltake ToughpowerGrand RGB 650 Gold;
- эту материнку;
- процессор AMD Ryzen 5 3350g (хотел 3400g, но он практически везде пропал);
- память Kingston HyperX Fury RGB DDR4-3200 2*8GB;
- SSD Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB NVMe M.2;
- охлаждение Cooler Master ML240L V2 RGB.
Все сразу заработало на ура и очень стабильно.
С чем столкнулся:
1. Память сначала запустилась на частоте 2400MHz. Танцы с бубном в биосе не помогли, система стопилась при запуске. Ларчик просто открывался - память нужно ставить всегда в слоты A2B2 (я этого раньше не знал). Увидел об этом инфо на overclockers, а потом оказалось, что это написано черным по белому в инструкции к материнской плате. Переставил планки, выставил XMP профиль в биосе, заработала на 3200. Гнать не пробовал, есть предположение, что эту (HyperX Fury) разогнать вообще особенно не смогу.
2. Система жидкостного охлаждения Cooler Master имеет в комплекте Y-разветвитель (1-к-3), чтобы подлючить 4 pin 12V RGB-подсветку двух вентиляторов и помпы к одному разъему на матплате. Так вот, при подключении через этот провод, вся гирлянда начинает синхронно мигать и пищать. Этот провод не дружит с платой ни в каких комбинациях, пришлось подсветку организовывать другими средствами.
С памятью у матери какие-то косяки неимоверные. Даже с крайним обновлением (19 марта 21 года) проблему с частотами не совсем решили. Из моего обзора corsair заводится вообще непонятно как и с танцем с бубном, Gammix D10 стабильно вытянул на 3333 мгц. А то что в a2b2 надо вставлять - такой ̶б̶а̶г̶ фича во многих платах, только вот зачем тогда делать 4 слота для стабильной работы буквально пару-тройку наименований планок ОЗУ - непонятно. Список стабильной работы памяти смотрите на офф. сайте - https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-B450M-PRO-S/HelpDesk_QVL/ 3 крайних документа.
С памятью у матери какие-то косяки неимоверные. Даже с крайним обновлением (19 марта 21 года) проблему с частотами не совсем решили. Из моего обзора corsair заводится вообще непонятно как и с танцем с бубном, Gammix D10 стабильно вытянул на 3333 мгц. А то что в a2b2 надо вставлять - такой ̶б̶а̶г̶ фича во многих платах, только вот зачем тогда делать 4 слота для стабильной работы буквально пару-тройку наименований планок ОЗУ - непонятно. Список стабильной работы памяти смотрите на офф. сайте - https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-B450M-PRO-S/HelpDesk_QVL/ 3 крайних документа.
А если 4 планки? А ещё и разных две Transcend JM3200HLE-16G и две кингстон 3000 или 3200ГГц (не помню, лежат на полке, ждут когда обновлю материнку на 4 слотовую, а тут какой-то непонятный гемор) без радиаторов
А если 4 планки? А ещё и разных две Transcend JM3200HLE-16G и две кингстон 3000 или 3200ГГц (не помню, лежат на полке, ждут когда обновлю материнку на 4 слотовую, а тут какой-то непонятный гемор) без радиаторов
Смотри комментарии,претензия к магазину,а не к товару
Комментарий:
Больше никаких покупок в Яндекс Маркете!
Сначала перенесли доставку, потом привезли вскрывавшийся ранее товар с повреждениями!
Раньше заказывал у них из-за лояльного отношения к покупателю, бывало приходил нерабочий товар, но проблема решалась за 1-2 дня. Возможно со временем изменились внутренние политики, но теперь невозможно вернуть деньги, при очевидных доказательствах, есть фото, но яндекс пеняет на продавца, что тот должен вынести решение, получается, что компания ни за что не отвечает!При таком подходе буду покупать у конкурентов, у одного из них даже доказывать ничего не надо, не понравилось-вернул. А тут и доказательства на лицо, но только одни отписки. Не удивлюсь, если откажут в возврате, но тогда пускай разбираются компетентные органы! Надеюсь кто-то прочтет мой комментарий и оградит себя от подобной ситуации. Всем хорошего настроения!
Из всей линейки asus tuf gaming стоит присмотреться именно к этой плате (лучше только crosshair VI hero, хоть и на 370x чипсете) т.к. тут самый адекватный набор подключений, меню bios тоже (по моему мнению), есть кнопка bios update (если бы ещё и clear cmos..но не завезли), а так же самая продвинутая система питания среди b450, наличие сетевого контроллера Realtek RTL8125B 2500 Gb Ethernet. Да, и охлаждение VRM самое продвинутое из ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING (AM4, mATX) и ASUS TUF B450M-PRO II (AM4, mATX). До 128 Gb оперативки и любой процессор от zen до zen 3 из коробки.
Остаётся подобрать достойные плашки ddr4, видяху и БП (super flower вне конкуренции, а подешевле - montech gamma ii или century, в зависимости от предпочтений модульный или нет).
лучшая матплата на б450м. может тащить 5900 без разгона.
миллион настроек в биос.
подсветка есть (мне не нужна).
держа в руках есть ощущение качественной вещи.
есть спдиф (мне надо), тип С, дисплейпорт и шдми. есть пс/2 для клавы (мне надо)
есть звук классный 1200А.
хавает любые процессоры от 1200 до 5950.
есть прошивка биос без процессора (нужно иметь старую флешку усб2.0. , с новыми может не прошить)
Недостатки:
попалась бракованная. заменили на другую такую же. комплектация как у дешёвых плат (мне пофиг).
цена. 9000р много за неё. 7500 было бы идеально.
Комментарий:
я доволен.
кто не может найти дрова под звук
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/realtek-dch-modded-audio-driver-for-windows-10.250915/
отлично, Эта материнка работа над ошибками от АСУС. в первую очередь мощная система питания процессора. выдержит не напрягаясь любые процессоры нового поколения. А также поддержка сети 2,5 гигабита.
Недостатки:
не поддерживает официально PCIe 4.0
Комментарий:
материнская плата точная копия ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS, только чипсет стоит В450
Хороший vrm с массивными радиаторами. Удобный bios.
Недостатки:
нет
3 года назад, Москва
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