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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Бренд. 4K. Хорошая оптика, как по качеству, так и по соотношению угла и зума
Недостатки:
Дорогой аккумулятор. Строб при резком движении объекта съёмки
Комментарий:
Отличная камера с ручными настройками, что позволяет её выделить в профессиональный сегмент. Тестовая съемка https://youtu.be/TaKGAONWGL8 https://youtu.be/6DKn8qgY45A https://youtu.be/g5Vt3HOoGrU
7 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 6487487
Петров Стас, беру любой пауэрбанк и снимаю 2-3 часа, пока руки держат)))vxf990.
Петров Стас, беру любой пауэрбанк и снимаю 2-3 часа, пока руки держат)))vxf990.
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Режим 4K очень хорош при достаточном освещении. Достаточно продолжительное время записи при штатном аккумуляторе - более 3 часов в самом тяжелом режиме 4 К. Удобно ложится в руку, легкий, практически невесомый. Отличный стабилизатор. Вторая камера. Управление и подключение по WiFi гаджетов, телевизора и компьютера. Зарядка беспроблемная от стандартной телефонной зарядки USB.
Недостатки:
Режимы Full HD тупо урезали за счет кропа матрицы, вместо того, чтобы отработать его всей матрицей. Как следствие - режимы Full HD неполноценные и замыленные и как следствие все творческие режимы - выбросить в помойку, так же как и пятиканальный звук - в 4К записывается только стерео и, поэтому, в режиме 4К они становятся бессмысленными. Уровень записи звука почему-то в режиме FULL HD оказался ниже на несколько децибелов, несмотря на то, что я включил режим zoom, недоступный в 4к. Качество фото ожидалось увидеть лучше. При таком размере матрицы размер фото должен быть порядка 15 Мб, а он в три раза меньше. Сносное фото получится только при хорошем освещении на режиме 4K. HDR пользоваться не советую - шумы ужасающие. Да и вообще матрица шумная. Писксели уменьшили в погоне за 4к, 4к получилось конечно, но шумов стало больше. Это закономерность. Нужно улучшать качество матрицы. И за такие деньги нужно делать полный кадр. При сьемке на 4к так же наблюдаются торможения при быстром перемещении камеры. Снимать надо плавнее. Процессор не справляется.
Комментарий:
Модель HC-WX970M. Сюрпризом оказалось то, что по умолчанию там стояла внутренняя память 64 Гб, хотя нигде об этом в спецификациях не упоминалось. Камера нужна была для лекций и проповедей, поэтому вторая встроенная камера оказалась интересным решением. Всегда хочется видеть живую реакцию слушающих. Для моих интересов камера полностью подходит даже с перечисленными недостатками. Но я бы советовал другим посмотреть камеры с хорошим Full HD, потому что в этой камере ввиду вышесказанного творческие режимы теряют смысл, хотя и в ручном можно достичь неплохих результатов при определенных навыках. Снимать только на 4К, если вам нужно качественное видео. Камера в общем располагает к профессиональной съемке. Вернее к навыкам ее освоения. Пример видео здесь: https://youtu.be/sZMqhkVPidQ
9 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Присутствие 4к. За эту цену альтернативы нет.
Недостатки:
Стабилизатор Микрофон
Комментарий:
Отзыв от имени любителя после камеры Canon HV40. При хорошем освещении картинка нравится. Передача цветов, полутонов, четкость. Неплохая эргономика - камера хорошо ложится в руки, а меню не вызывает проблем. Камера круто выглядит))) При недостаточном освещении, в помещениях начинаются сильные шумы и падает цветопередача, картинка перестает радовать и не отличается от камер, которые в 2 раза дешевле. 4к в помещении лучше не включать. Камера постоянно дергает яркость. Особенно, когда на статичном фоне снимаешь человека. Камера отслеживает лицо, а оно всегда в движении... Ярче, темнее, ярче, темнее... и так постоянно. На других камерах такого не наблюдал. Гибридный стабилизатор не понравился вообще. При резких движениях он еще нормально работает, но если удерживаешь руку, появляется мелкая дрожь, которая бесит просто. Стабилизатор не гасит незначительную шевеленку руки, а преобразует ее в дрожание картинки. Это самый неприятный для меня сюрприз этой камеры. Со штатива все норм. Микрофон отвратительный, как и на всех любительских камерах. Ветрозащита только от легкого дуновения ветерка, любой ощущаемый лицом ветер превращается в шумы. Микрофон не направленный и отлично записывает все звуки от оператора, подавляя звук от объектов съемки. Постоянное использование внешнего микрофона на этой камере невозможно из-за странной системы крепления и гнезда под дисплеем. Предпочел бы видеть хороший направленный стереомикрофон со съемной меховой ветрозащитой. В ручном режиме на Canon картинка тянулась лучше, здесь что-то не получается
7 лет назад
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
4K при лютом свете >3000люкс
Недостатки:
"слепая" камера, слабая светосила. Нет возможности подключения проводного ДУ.
Комментарий:
Камера типичный "пляжник", т.е. съемка в солнечный день на открытом месте. Для того чтобы снять хоть что-то в помещении к ней надо тащить 2-3 кВт света. Стабилизация никакущая. Т.е. на пляж надо ещё и штатив тащить. получается как в стишке "стою на асфальте, я в лыжи обутый, толь лыжи не едут, толь я .... ...й!" Для сравнения FDR-AX100, хоть то ещё "добро" , но с неё можно снять в помещении 4К без дополнительной телеги со светом, но это достигается большей дырой объектива 62мм это хоть как-то. Вообще всё дело в физике (оптике) матрица того же размера и по той же технологии что и FullHD, но вот пикселей на ней в 4 раза больше, соответственно площадь каждого в 4 раза меньше и соответственно фотонов прилетает в 4 раза меньше в расчёте на пиксель. шум в 4 раза больше. Пути три. 1. новая технология матриц (на квантовом переходе ожидается к 2025-му году) 2. Увеличение площади матрицы. Как следствие кратное увеличение размера объектива чтобы сохранить кроп фактор. 3. Таскать с собой телегу со светом. Можно конечно оставить матрицу прежней, и просто нарастить объектив, закрыв глаза на кроп, но вот цена такого решения вряд-ли понравится и забудьте про оптическую стабилизацию тогда. У Панаса последняя удачная модель была hc-x920, у Соньки FDR-AX100, но в ней столько косяков, что особо хвалить не за что, кроме объектива. Так что пока хороших 4К камер в бытовом сегменте, чтобы снять внука на утреннике в д\с, просто нет.
7 лет назад
Комментарий 102403552
Игорь, ну вы сравнили. FDR-AX100 в 4 раза дороже и матрица у нее дюймовая. Другого класса аппарат.
Игорь, ну вы сравнили. FDR-AX100 в 4 раза дороже и матрица у нее дюймовая. Другого класса аппарат.
Комментарий 102430397
ты реально в "лыжи обутый"
ты реально в "лыжи обутый"
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