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Звук. Становится слышно все. Я конечно понимаю, что это извращение, но оживила даже старый музыкальный центр в плане качества. Про наушники АТ М40х я вообще молчу. Мониторы подключать еще не пробовал по причине их отсутствия.
Недостатки:
В этом ценовом сегменте их тяжело найти, на мой взгляд.
Комментарий:
Windows 10, intel i5-4690. Поставил драйвера последней версии, на данный момент - 4.36.5. При воспроизведении в случайных моментах звук просто как будто застревал, заикался.
Стал искать причину и нашел: у самого производителя на сайте при скачивании драйверов написано: "It’s possible to get clicks and pops if streaming audio when also sending/receiving large amounts of MIDI data when the interface is connected to a USB 2.0 port on an AMD-based machine. Intel machines and computers with USB 3.0 ports are unaffected."
Хоть у меня и не AMD, но переключение в USB 3.0 решило все проблемы. Начинающим музыкантам, видеоредакторам подойдет идеально. Рекомендую.
Пишу про Focusrite Scarlett Solo 2nd Gen. C родными дровами проблем нет - все встало и работает (Sonar, Windows 10, intel i7)
С буфером 32 сэмпла при 48 кГц задержка по сообщению дравайвера (с учетом аппаратного буфера) 2,3 мсек в каждую сторону. Есть опция буфер 16 сэмплов, но звук вылетает и нужно перезапускать звуковой движок. Короче, задержка очень короткая, позволяет играть на гитаре через эффекты Sonar и не ощущать задержку, писаться синхронно с записью. Работает супер стабильно - за день записи ни одного подвисания, выпадания, никаких тресков или остановок аудиодвижка, ни один дубль не сорван.
Линейный вход (при чувствительности подгоняющей сигнал под ноль) пол шума -91 Дб.
Инструментальный вход (включена гитара Stratocaster с двумя синглами в противофазе) пол шума -90Дб при поненциометре в ноль (звук на гитаре выключен) или -78 дБ при открытом потенциометре. Я считаю - это очень тихий вход!!!
Микрофонный вход имеет фантомное питание для конденсаторного микрофона. (Пока не тестировал, напишу дополнительно.)
Воспроизведение в наушниках очень радует (я ничего лучше не слышал, но и хороших карт у меня раньше не было). В слепом онлайн-тесте отличаю некомпрессированный wav-файл от mp3 320 и 128 кбит/с в 4 примерах из 6 (при вероятности случайного угадывания 2 из 6) - может не самый надежный тест, но большую реалистичность пространственного звучания и дополнительные едва заметые верха в uncompressed wave я услышал. Наушники Rombica BH-10, 16 Ом, громкость оглушительная при ручке на 70-80%, выше - начинаются искажения (не знаю, наушники не выдерживают или усилитель - не важно, слушать на такой громкости все равно невозможно). На высокоомных наушниках не тестировал, ничего не могу сказать.
Недостатки:
Недостатков не обнаружил.
Придирка: при переключении размера буфера или частоты дискретизации карта может отключаться. Лечится включением/выключением аудиодвижка в секвенсоре, или переключением между двумя разными картами (если есть) в регуляторе громкости виндоуз, или просто извлечением/вставкой разъема USB.
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Первую неделю не мог в драйвере Windows 10 поменять частоту дискретизации. Доступно было воспроизведение только 48 кГц.
Написал в поддержку на английском, они овтетили через два дня, что настройки драйвера виндоуз следуют за настройками драйвера ASIO.
И действительно! Какой вариант выберешь в ASIO - 44.1, 48, 88,2, 96 и 176,4, 192 кГц - такой и будет в виндоуз. В звуке различий не замечал.
Кстати в обычных приложениях Виндоуз (не в секвенсоре при записи), можно ставить буфер 16 сэмплов и не заикается..
Расскажу про достоинства данной вещи:
1. Цена.
Я купил эту карточку за 6790 в Гиганити, когда многие другие закидывают ценник за 7, и даже за 8 и выше тысяч! Сказать, что я в шоке - ничего не сказать, а ведь устройство хоть и высокого, но базового уровня. Ощущение, что в стране, чтобы слушать музыку, записывать гитарку/синтезатор и петь/читать стихотворения, нужно перед этим нехило так копить на оборудование, если ты не хочешь организовывать постоянные походы на студии и репы.
2. Звучание.
Поскольку я конкретный любитель, но отделить бочку от малого могу, то я явно начал слышать различия в своих полу-мониторах после покупки звуковой - звук стал громче, чётче, а самое главное - громче. Теперь я могу даже прогреть наушники (хоть они этого и не требуют), а могу и колонки подключить, напрямую. (Не забудьте приобрести переходник с 3.5 на 6.3) (Очень важно, если будете брать - прочитайте конец статьи, вам может помочь)
3. Дизайн.
Ну, обычный, но чертовски привлекательный дизайн, и на моём столе эта вещь смотрится крайне круто и интересно, хорошо подчёркивает красный стиль моего оборудования и прочих мелочей на столе.
4. Удобство (вообще, 3 пункт должен был быть, но да ладно).
Ей очень удобно пользоваться. Все ручки перед тобой, всё интуитивно, перегруз отмечается ярко красным, всё крайне понятно и просто.
5. Качество.
Ручки не болтаются, ничего не гремит, не искрит, не пищит, не звенит (а особо и не должно).
Недостатки:
Но без минусов покупки не обошлось - я примерно недели 2-3 не мог понять, почему у меня идут эти злосчастные хрипы, которые, как оказывается, почти у каждой второй звуковой (но к счастью, проблему решил).
Минус по сути только в том, что я потратил много времени и нервов.
А так - минусов нет, меня всё устраивает.
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Картой доволен, и вам рекомендую взять, если вы не имеете больше, чем пару гитар, и не пользуетесь чем-то большим, чем кубейс или аудишн.
Карта подходит как для записи гитары/синтов, так и для вокала, фантомное питание шикарное, как и регулировка микрофона - я наконец прочувствовал нормальный звук и меня он порадовал.
Задержки минимальные, для гитары крайне полезно, как и для микрофона.
Асио у звуковушки хороший, для FL Studio и GuitarRig более чем подошёл (сейчас там работаю).
И важная инфа при покупке:
Долгое время я пытался разобраться с надоевшими всем хрипами у этой карты.
Сколько я не перепробовал разных размеров буферов, сколько я проводов с ферритовыми наконечниками не перетыкал, помогла только одна простая вещь - я воткнул её в разъём USB 3.0, и хрипы моментально ушли, вот просто пропали и всё.
Поэтому не слушайте людей, кто говорит тыкать в 2.0 - это бред, да и провод нет смысла новый покупать - если с оригинальным всё окей, и длины хватает - оставайтесь на нём.
Звук, низкие задержки, компактность, питание по юсб, ПО в комплекте.
Недостатки:
Звук подается одновременно и на наушники, и на колонки. С комплектным кабелем USB появлялся треск при воспроизведении. Лечится, соответственно, заменой кабеля USB.
Комментарий:
Дополнено.
Отзыв о версии 2nd gen, последний драйвер, последняя прошивка. Звук сравниваю с xonar u7, которая у меня благополучно замигала (хотя еще работает).
Мне кажется, Solo играет ровно и детально, как и положено более-менее серьезному интерфейсу. Усилитель для наушников неплох, но с ростом громкости становится слышен фоновый шум. Я держу ручку в основном на 9 часов, и в таком положении все нормально.
Пишет звук карта хорошо, на мой непрофессиональный взгляд. Благодаря низким задержкам, я наконец-то могу нормально записывать голос под минус. Когда впервые услышал себя через at2020, был просто поражен качеством! Гейна, кстати, достаточно - выкручиваю только на 50-75%. Для гитары предусилитель тоже мощный - больше половины не нужно для пассивных звукоснимателей. В Ableton Live 9 (lite версия которого идет в комплекте) стандартные пресеты меня приятно удивили. Лично мне с такой эмуляцией даже усилитель не нужен. Не идеально конечно, но очень достойно.
По поводу треска: повторюсь, что С НОВЫМ USB КАБЕЛЕМ ПРОБЛЕМ НЕТ.
Подытожим. Это отличная карта для записи. Для воспроизведения - просто хорошая. В целом, как комбайн для всего, меня Solo прекрасно устраивает. Рекомендую.
Спасибо. Просто со штатным проводом есть трески, причем закономерность их появления выявить не удалось. Могут как под нагрузкой ЦП в 100 процентов появится, так и без нагрузки. Значит дело в проводе.
Спасибо. Просто со штатным проводом есть трески, причем закономерность их появления выявить не удалось. Могут как под нагрузкой ЦП в 100 процентов появится, так и без нагрузки. Значит дело в проводе.
Пишу о втором поколении:
1. На Windows 10 встала сразу, никаких проблем с драйверами.
2. Звук! Что на паре JBL 305P, что в наушниках Ultrasone 780 звук детальный, широкий, ровный на всех частотах.
3. Работа с секвенсором (в моем случае FL) так же не вызывает никаких нареканий. Никаких артефактов и треска даже в больших проектах.
4. Дизайн - дело субъективное, но тут придраться не к чему. Передняя панель матовая, не заляпывается. Ручка регулировки громкости с насечками, приятная на ощупь.
Недостатки:
1. Разве что нет отдельной крутилки громкости под наушники, но это не критично и, за такую цену, скорее придирка.
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Отличная недорогая карточка начального уровня. Подойдет и тем, кто занимается музыкой, и тем, кому просто важен качественный звук для мультимедиа.
хороший звук, как в мониторах, так и в наушниках. звук в наушниках даже больше нравится, чем в плеере hidizs ap100. маленькая, прочная, транспортабельная. достаточно функциональная- можно подключать гитарку и микрофон. причем для микрофона есть фантомное питание, а гитарный сигнал не клипует, в отличие от 2i2, например. также есть возможность прямого мониторинга сигнала. отсутствие проблем с драйверами, которые еще и мультиклиентны.
Недостатки:
лично мне не хватает только раздельной регулировки громкости на колонки и наушники. кому то может не хватить миди входа и сильно ограниченной возможности вывода звука с карты (только rca)
не работает под вин хп.
питание от юсб- возможны шумы в мониторах.
короткий и откровенно низкокачественный провод в комплекте- сразу заменил.
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купил ее на смену старушке ему 0404 усб. по сравнению с ней не заметил, чтобы качество записи/воспроизведения как то заметно упало. особенно выход на наушники меня порадовал- с байерами 770 про 32ом очень нравится звук, в ему сильно не хватало середины. также появилась возможность слушать еще что то, параллельно секвенсору, в моем случае скрежета и прочих ужасов пока не наблюдалось.
как вердикт: отличная карта для домашней микростудии, недорогая и разумно минималистичная.
cynos52, старушка EMU-0404USB и рядом не стоит с этой детской игрушкой.Если б у EMU не было проблем с драйверами,вряд ли кто-то из музыкантов с нее спрыгнул.
cynos52, старушка EMU-0404USB и рядом не стоит с этой детской игрушкой.Если б у EMU не было проблем с драйверами,вряд ли кто-то из музыкантов с нее спрыгнул.
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Работает супер стабильно - за день записи ни одного подвисания, выпадания, никаких тресков или остановок аудиодвижка, ни один дубль не сорван. \nЛинейный вход (при чувствительности подгоняющей сигнал под ноль) пол шума -91 Дб. \nИнструментальный вход (включена гитара Stratocaster с двумя синглами в противофазе) пол шума -90Дб при поненциометре в ноль (звук на гитаре выключен) или -78 дБ при открытом потенциометре. Я считаю - это очень тихий вход!!! \nМикрофонный вход имеет фантомное питание для конденсаторного микрофона. (Пока не тестировал, напишу дополнительно.)\nВоспроизведение в наушниках очень радует (я ничего лучше не слышал, но и хороших карт у меня раньше не было). В слепом онлайн-тесте отличаю некомпрессированный wav-файл от mp3 320 и 128 кбит/с в 4 примерах из 6 (при вероятности случайного угадывания 2 из 6) - может не самый надежный тест, но большую реалистичность пространственного звучания и дополнительные едва заметые верха в uncompressed wave я услышал. 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Цена.\nЯ купил эту карточку за 6790 в Гиганити, когда многие другие закидывают ценник за 7, и даже за 8 и выше тысяч! Сказать, что я в шоке - ничего не сказать, а ведь устройство хоть и высокого, но базового уровня. Ощущение, что в стране, чтобы слушать музыку, записывать гитарку/синтезатор и петь/читать стихотворения, нужно перед этим нехило так копить на оборудование, если ты не хочешь организовывать постоянные походы на студии и репы.\n2. Звучание.\nПоскольку я конкретный любитель, но отделить бочку от малого могу, то я явно начал слышать различия в своих полу-мониторах после покупки звуковой - звук стал громче, чётче, а самое главное - громче. Теперь я могу даже прогреть наушники (хоть они этого и не требуют), а могу и колонки подключить, напрямую. (Не забудьте приобрести переходник с 3.5 на 6.3) (Очень важно, если будете брать - прочитайте конец статьи, вам может помочь)\n3. 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