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Опыт использования:: несколько месяцев

Достоинства:: Стильный дизайн, инверторный довольно тихий мотор, хороший информативный дисплей, нормальный барабан (без "тёрки", как в машинках 2019 года выпуска), надежная дверца без ручки с двойным остеклением, быстрый замок (дверь открывается сразу после окончания стирки), неплохой функционал (включая дозагрузку белья, три дополнительных цикла полоскания и возможность сократить время выполнения некоторых программ), система из трех пружин и амортизаторов (в отличие от двух в классических схемах) для более эффективного поглощения вибраций, наличие инерционного сенсора двигателя для точного определения веса сухого белья, оптимизации расхода воды и электроэнергии.

Недостатки:: Главный недостаток - НЕРАЗБОРНЫЙ НЕРЕМОНТОПРИГОДНЫЙ БАК (стоимость замены бака в сборе в АСЦ равна примерно половине стоимости стиральной машины в ценах по состоянию на ноябрь 2020 года). Если вы часто стираете и используете отжим на самых высоких оборотах, то очень ХОРОШО ПОДУМАЙТЕ, стоит ли вам покупать стиральную машину с неремонтопригодным баком! Чувствительность дорогостоящей платы управления мотором к скачкам напряжения, встречающийся брак комплектующих (деталей) российского производства (манжет загрузочного люка, противовесов и т.д. - см. фото), отсутствие аквастопа, очень длинные по времени программы Хлопок и Синтетика. Машинка довольно сильно, громко и весьма небережно "колбасит" белье (например, на программах Смеш. белье и Супер. 30). Цифры оставшегося времени (до окончания программы) или максимального веса белья на дисплее подсвечивают неактивные сегменты, из-за чего эти цифры отображаются не вполне четко. Несмотря на маркетинговые заявления производителя, стиральную машину невозможно установить вплотную к стене с минимальным зазором примерно в 1 мм. (мешает сливной шланг), а барабан, разумеется, имеет шов и не увеличился (по сравнению с моделями 2019 года выпуска) настолько в размере, чтобы это существенным образом повлияло на вес загружаемого белья. Упоминание производителем о 7 кг - это, конечно, лукавство, поскольку реально (без потери качества стирки) можно загрузить на программе Хлопок не более 6 кг (лучше загружать не более 5 кг). 10-летняя гарантия на мотор - это также хитрость производителя, поскольку выходит из строя (часто из-за скачков напряжения), как правило, не инверторный мотор, а дорогостоящая плата, которая им управляет (гарантия на плату - всего один год).

Комментарий:: Стирает машинка, в целом, неплохо. Если будете оценивать этот аппарат в сравнении с машинками из низшего ценового сегмента, то останетесь довольны. Тот, кто ранее владел (или владеет до сих пор) стиральными машинами Бош или Сименс европейского производства (например, made in Germany), будет, скорее всего, РАЗОЧАРОВАН качеством сборки на заводе в Стрельне, поскольку продать сегодня в России прибор за 30000-40000 в весьма конкурентных условиях без снижения его качества и удешевления материалов (по сравнению с европейской сборкой) не получится!

3 года назад, Москва

Комментарий 105267956

Семеркин В.

Изменён 2 года назад

3. О системе VoltCheck. Любая современная стиральная машина выдержит кратковременные скачки напряжения до 270 V. От критического или долговременного повышения напряжения (например, более 130 % от номинала или в случае отгорания нуля) никакой VoltCheck не спасет, а дорогостоящий силовой модуль в этом случае будет поврежден. 4. О барабане "на 34% большего объема, чем в сравниваемой Вами стиральной машине другого производителя" (?). Про "другого производителя" в моем отзыве нет ни слова. Я написал, что барабан существенно не увеличился по сравнению с узкими моделями Бош 2019 года выпуска. Давайте укажем точные цифры с целью разоблачить лукавые заявления БСХ Россия. Для примера возьмем модель 2019 года выпуска Bosch WLL24266OE и модель 2020 года WHA222ххOE. Объем барабана у первой стиральной машины - 46 литров, а у второй - 47 литров. И где здесь разница в 34%??? Что у человека из Бош с математикой? Если на 34 % больше, то объем барабана у WHA222 должен быть 61,64 литра (то есть почти как у полноразмерной стиральной машины Бош; для справки: он составляет примерно 68 литров). 5. О дисбалансе. Отжим крупных (без мелких) тяжелых вещей из хлопка (!) в машинках 122/222/245 обычно сопровождается экстремальными колебаниями бака и сминанием манжеты (ее плотная часть буквально стучит по мягкой с характерными звуками ударов). Такие звуки можно услышать, если на неработающей машинке довольно сильными движениями рукой раскачать бак вперед-назад. Система контроля дисбаланса не справляется и позволяет прибору продолжать отжим при довольно сильных колебаниях бака. После того, как "устанут" амортизаторы (установлены довольно слабые - все три на 80N), бак, вероятно, начнет стучать о заднюю стенку корпуса. Таким образом, эти машинки очень не любят дисбаланс! На узких приборах Бош и Сименс немецкой сборки такой проблемы не было, во всяком случае до существенного износа амортизаторов (стирали комплекты постельного белья, шторы, джинсы, покрывала и т.д.). Продолжение следует

Комментарий 105267958

Семеркин В.

Изменён 2 года назад

6. Маркетинговую мантру про бесшовный барабан (шов - имеется), многоступенчатую систему защиты от протечек (никаких доказательств наличия этой системы не приведено - потребитель должен просто принять заявление производителя на веру), размещение сливного шланга "в углублениях по бокам корпуса" (?) даже и комментировать не будем. 7. Главный вывод (мои субъективные оценочные суждения): российская сборка - самая худшая. Качество отечественных комплектующих - довольно низкое (к импортным, как правило, претензий нет - китайскому мотору, немецкому тэну, итальянской помпе, турецкой электронике). Короче, российский Бош абсолютно не равен по качеству немецкому, польскому или даже турецкому и китайскому Бошу. Причины этого здесь разбирать не будем. Также критично оценивайте заявления производителя про 10-летний срок службы стиральной машины. Не путайте его с ресурсом прибора! Юридически всё просто: в течение срока службы производитель отвечает только за существенные недостатки товара (заводской брак), причем бремя доказывания по ним лежит исключительно на потребителе! Для просмотра всех комментариев нажмите ссылку "Еще х комментариев" под отзывом. Там можно увидеть начало моего ответа на очередной маркетинговый опус БСХ Россия.

Сергей петров

Опыт использования:: менее месяца

Достоинства:: Дизайн

Недостатки:: Очень шумная

Комментарий:: До покупки боша было 3 стиральных машины-2 Занусси и топовый Электролюкс. Машины стояли в ванной и при открытой двери было слышно только при отжиме. Занусси были 2002 и 2006 года выпуска. Новый бош слышен при стирке очень даже. Отжим я в расчет не беру,тут все понятно. Хотя пришлось подложить антивибрационные накладки. Очень громко было.

2 года назад, Москва

Комментарий 150588002

Bosch

2 года назад

Сергей, здравствуйте! Благодарим за обратную связь. Уровень шума во время фазы стирки при стандартной программе Хлопок 60° при полной загрузке: 52 децибел. Уровень шума при отжиме при стандартной программе Хлопок 60°C при полной загрузке: 75 децибел. Для нас важно получать информацию об опыте эксплуатации от наших покупателей, чтобы делать нашу технику лучше. С уважением, Bosch

Мария Н.

Опыт использования:: более года

Достоинства:: Тихая. Хорошо стирает.

Недостатки:: Сгорели мозги через 1 год использования.

Комментарий:: Очень грустно, когда умирает не очень-то дешёвая техника хорошего бренда

2 года назад, Королёв

Комментарий 150712093

Официальный представитель компании в России

2 года назад

Мария, здравствуйте! Мы понимаем, что оказаться в такой ситуации очень неприятно. Мы рекомендуем Вам обратиться в авторизованный сервисный центр для проведения диагностики / ремонта бытовой техники Bosch. Уточнить всю необходимую информацию по АСЦ в вашем регионе Вы можете на сайте: https://www.bosch-home.ru/servis/remont-i-obsluzhivanie/servisnye-centry , а также по телефону единого контактного центра 8 800 200 29 61. С уважением, Bosch

эдуард эдуард

Чем отличается от 122?

Год назад, Новосибирск

Комментарий 151075587

Официальный представитель компании в России

Год назад

Эдуард, здравствуйте! Спасибо за Ваш отзыв! В модели WHA222... в отличие от WHA122... присутствуют программы выведения 4-х типов пятен, а так же реализован более функциональный дисплей. С уважением, Bosch

Валерия С.

Увеличить

Опыт использования:: менее месяца

Достоинства:: Красивая, удобная в эксплуатации и функциональная.

Недостатки:: Российская сборка оставляет желать лучшего, начиная от толщины металла корпуса и заканчивая качеством отливки манжет загрузочного люка и противовесов. Экономят даже на упаковке. Бак сделали неразборным, а стоит он вместе с работой по замене почти 15 тысяч целковых. Наклейки часто не могут приклеить ровно и без пузырей. Машинка в большей мере от маркетологов и дизайнеров, а не от инженеров, думающих о надежности и ремонтопригодности аппарата за разумную цену.

Комментарий:: В изготовлении производителем паяных баков и их стоимости в авторизованных сервисных центрах однозначно чувствуется душевная "забота" о потребителях от "БСХ Бытовые Приборы". Копеечные заглушки (вставляются после демонтажа транспортировочных болтов) стоят почти 1000 руб. Спасибо за заботу, Бош!

3 года назад, Нижний Новгород

Комментарий 105254257

Боря Светлый

2 года назад

Напиши в поисковике купить бак для стиральной машины бош, первое что ты увидишь это бак в сборе как минимум за дешевле в половину того что ты тут лепишь, если покупать у офф дилера он обойдётся в разы дешевле чем у дяди Васи который на людях деньги делает, а поменять его 15 летний пацан могет... Бред.

Комментарий 105271064

Валерия С.

2 года назад

Тролли не могут угомониться, поэтому повторим для добрых людей главные выводы. Во-первых, бак - НЕРАЗБОРНЫЙ. Стоимость замены бака в сборе (или силового модуля) в АСЦ, включая фирменный сервис Bosch, (по состоянию на конец 2020 года) - примерно 1/2 цены новой стиральной машины. Заявления "продуктового тренера" ромытриначетверть и им подобных о цене бака в 3 тыс. руб. давно разоблачены. Во-вторых, установленный производителем десятилетний срок службы стиральной машины вовсе не означает, что любая поломка в этот период времени будет устранена АСЦ бесплатно (за счет производителя). В течение срока службы (в отличие от срока гарантии на товар) производитель отвечает только за СУЩЕСТВЕННЫЕ недостатки товара, а бремя доказывания по таким делам возлагается исключительно на потребителя! А теперь оцените свои силы и ресурсы как рядового потребителя по сравнению с компанией, у которой имеются опытные и сильные юристы, а также серьезные финансовые и иные возможности для противостояния вам в судебном процессе. В-третьих, страна сборки играет ключевую роль с точки зрения качества стиральной машины. Если мы говорим о Bosch, то рейтинг выглядит следующим образом (от самого лучшего качества к худшему): Германия, Польша, Турция / Китай, Россия.

Имя скрыто

Куплен на Маркете

Товар продавца RBT

Опыт использования:: менее месяца

Достоинства:: качество стирки хорошее

Недостатки:: при оджиме сильная вибраия.( транспортировачные болты удалил по уровню выстовил)

2 года назад, Москва

Комментарий 150167167

Максим Лобков

2 года назад

Ну не знаю даже..

Комментарий 150412328

сергей белоусов

2 года назад

три слова-десять ошибок! лучше не пиши, людей не мучай...

Андрей О.

Куплен на Маркете

Товар продавца giper_fm

Увеличить

Опыт использования:: менее месяца

Достоинства:: Не большие размеры для заявленной загрузки белья

Недостатки:: Не тот цвет кришки ,заказывали зелёный, пришёл серый

Комментарий:: Нету никакой дополнительной защиты от протечки как было заявлено в описании

3 года назад, Санкт-Петербург

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