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Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Пользуемся данной моделью с 2008года 1.Мощный и высокопроизводительный аппарат. 2.Ночной режим очень тихий, спать не мешает. 3.Есть режим притока свежего воздуха с очищением(когда любой кондер работает все окна закрывают, таким образом нет притока свежего воздуха, воздух гоняется по кругу внутри помещения, эта модель затягивает воздух с улицы по специальному шлангу,это огромный плюс, нет ощущения недостатка кислорода и удушья) 4. Осушает и увлажняет воздух. 5. У нас данная модель работает на 2 комнатную квартиру общей площадью 56м, его полностью хватает 6. Функций куча,но если пользуешся кондером постоянно быстро все запоминаешь. 7. Фильтры менять каждый год совсем не обязательно,достаточно регулярно их промывать и чистить. 8. Все детали выполнены очень качественно(не скрипят не дребезжат и т.д) 9. Летом 2010 этот кондиционер показал себя с лучшей стороны. Работал круглые сутки месяц с лишним в режиме охлаждения и притока воздуха, при этом когда на улице стояла гарь от торфянников дома запаха дыма небыло. То есть в режиме притока воздуха стримерный фильтр работает очень эффективно. 11. Заданную температуру держит очень хорошо, в основном всегда используем кондиционер в ночном режиме(вообще практически не слышно) и сильного ветра нет, если есть дети в квартире то этот режим оптимален. 12. Режим увлажнения включали несколько раз, по сути он наверное не нужен, потому что зимой кондером пользоваться без надобнасти и проще включить увлажнитель. 13. Режим осущения включаю часто осенью в дождливую погоду, в этом режиме есть свой смысл. 14. Классная система самоочистки от плесени и затклости, в начале каждого лета делаю чистку. Кондер не воняет, идет свежий, чистый воздух. 15. Еще несколько слов про стримерный фильтр. Это такая мощная вещь, устраняет все запахи на прочь. Мы с супругой хотели придать комнате приятный аромат и положили благовония на кондиционер сверху, где он затягивает воздух. Через 2 часа ни запаха в комнате ни запаха от благовононии не было!
Недостатки:
Цена,но его перебивают плюсы(кондер покупается на года,а эта модель дает комфорт и уют в любимом доме, так что потратиться стоит)
Комментарий:
Преимущество этого кондиционера над другими это только режим притока свежего воздуха. Подаваемого объема воздуха недостаточно для нормальной жизнедеятельности в помещении более одного человека, только ночью в принципе вроде бы как достаточно для двух взрослых и двух детей(дышим реже :) ) Если вы имеете дома систему вентиляции, то потребности в таком кондиционере нет. Сейчас спустя годы экплуатации, взял бы наверное тоже дайкин но подешевле(без вентиляции), а на сэкономленные деньги поставил бы полноценную вентиляцию типа УВРК 50, которая дает 80 куб. метров час и при этом потребляе 40 ватт. Резюмирую. Кондер хороший, но он не решает вопрос вентиляции, вентиляция все равно нужна, а приток свежего воздуха на этой серии (Ururu/Sarara)всеже наверное в большей степени маркетинговый ход. Это на данной (28 модели) этот объем свежего воздуха еще как то может хватить, так как расчитан на небольшую площадь помещения, но ведь на моделе 50 данной серии объем подаваемого свежего воздуха точно такой же, а площадь обслуживания в два раза больше. Выводы делайте сами
12 лет назад
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
1) Все заявленные функции работают чётко и согласно инструкции, что не может не радовать. Чуда я изначально не ждал (у меня техническое образование). У меня стояла задача обеспечить для новорождённого ребёнка охлаждение воздуха, приток воздуха с улицы и, что важно, фильтрацию табачного дыма. Учитывая, что кроме фотокаталитических фильтров с табачным дымом никто не справляется, то в сумме характеристик кондиционер явился самым дешёвым выбором. 2) Я сразу понимал, что (а) приточка неизбежно шумновата, (б) на толпу взрослых этого не хватит. Но, как выяснилось, вполне хватает на 1 младенца и 2 спящих взрослых. Шум приточки равномерный и спать не мешает(на минимальном режиме). 3) Кондиционер вполне экономичен - этим летом он не выключается уже месяц, но счета за электричество вполне терпимые. 4) У чудесного разноцветного индикатора есть замечательная опция - его уровень регулируется с пульта, как и уровень звукового сигнала. Вплоть до полного отключения:) 5) Неплохие режимы борьбы с плесенью. Про остальное без меня написали.
Недостатки:
1)На максимальном режиме приточку никогда не не использовал - уж больно шумно. 2) При охлаждении на ночном режиме и температуре в 23 градуса может начать пахнуть :(. После второго зимнего простоя просто вонял. В принципе, это общая проблема кондиционеров. Несколько циклов очистки исправили ситуацию. 3) Режим Sarara (не путать с Dry Cooling) практически бесполезен. Идея понижения влажности воздуха путём притока осушённого воздуха снаружи в таких количествах не особо интересна. Проще охлаждение включить. 4) Режим Ururu в наших краях годится только на весну и осень. Я его почти не использовал, всё-таки сквозняк создаётся преизрядный. Кроме того, у меня квартиру и так перетапливают, а при поднятии влажности воздуха вообще тяжко. 5) Не понял смысл АВТО режима, особенно если температура болтается около выставленной.
Комментарий:
О покупке не жалею. Поставленные задачи техника выполнила. Теперь весьма уважаю Daikin :)
13 лет назад
Комментарий 100545779
"Режим Ururu" - а шумно ли в этом режиме?
"Режим Ururu" - а шумно ли в этом режиме?
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Одновременное охлаждение с увлажнением и подмесом фильтрованного воздуха с улицы - это Бомба! Приемлемый для двоих человек объём закачиваемого по приточке воздуха. Доступная (правда, не по цене) опция - онлайн-контроллер KKRP01A для управления через Интернет.
Недостатки:
У всех FTXR единственный и очень весомый недостаток - цена. 70к - предел, по средней московской (от 90 и выше) - пожалуй нафиг :)
Комментарий:
Ночью включаю при неплотно закрытых окнах (микровентиляцию оставляю) - в тихом режиме имею 24 градуса и 50% влажность (сам кондиционер со своего датчика показывает 55%, в центре комнаты же погодная станция показывает 48-50%) и небольшой приток с улицы: спать вдвоём очень комфортно. Несмотря на наличие относительно мощной (если сравнивать с остальными подобными моделями) приточки стоит отметить - здесь это прежде всего наличествует для возможности увлажнения, ибо забор влаги происходит во внешнем блоке, но ночью воздуха хватает! Единственное, чего бы хотелось (из капризов): в автоматическом режиме на охлаждение/обогрев кондиционер работает превосходно, но без режима увлажнения. Режим увлажнения можно включать вместе с охлаждением, но не в автоматическом режиме - соответственно, либо мы вручную включаем обогрев на нужную температуру с увлажнением, либо охлаждение на нужную температуру с охлаждением. В автоматическом режиме кондей сам меняет режимы - если для достижения температуры теперь нужно греть, значит - переключится в обогрев.
10 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 100545760
Andrienko Kirill, "Ночью включаю при неплотно закрытых окнах (микровентиляцию оставляю) - в тихом режиме имею 24 градуса и 50% влажность" - это зимой или летом?
Andrienko Kirill, "Ночью включаю при неплотно закрытых окнах (микровентиляцию оставляю) - в тихом режиме имею 24 градуса и 50% влажность" - это зимой или летом?
Комментарий 100545762
Andrienko Kirill, Можно ли зимой использовать просто режим увлажнения, без обогрева?
Andrienko Kirill, Можно ли зимой использовать просто режим увлажнения, без обогрева?
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Тихий. В ночном режиме почти не заметен (с приточкой на минимум) Большой запас мощности (комната 17 м2 - всегда достаточно "супертихого" режима). Охлаждает помещение с 30 градусов до 23 минут за 10-15 (в супертихом же режиме) Создает комфортный воздушный поток (режим "бриз" или как-то так). Не слишком дует холодом, но движеине воздуха есть. Воздух движется и перемешивается, как будто и правда приятный ветерок Удобные самоочистки/диагностики/напоминалки Хорошо сушит и охлаждает :) Приятный "режим сна". Действительно повышает комфортность
Недостатки:
Дорогой Зимой увлажнение не работает нормально. Пользуюсь внешним увлажнителем Приточки в "ночном" режиме маловато, а в "сильном" шумит (не очень сильно, он хочется тише) Мудреное управление Пощелкивает при сильном ветре снаружи
Комментарий:
Всё отлично кроме цены :)
7 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
1) Приток воздуха с улицы 2) Тихий в ночном режиме 3) Мощности хватает не только на 28кв.м 4) Супер дизайн
Недостатки:
1) Цена не для всех 2) Шумноват с включенной приточкой на максимуме
Комментарий:
Приобрел данный аппарат ранней весной когда не было большого ажиотажа, пользоваться начал летом. Японцы конечно умеют делать ВЕЩИ. Дизайн кондиционера, его запуск - когда крышка медленно отьезжает вверх - впечатляет. К охлаждению - никаких нареканий. Можно охлаждать 2 комнаты и коридор (если предварительно закрыть ванную и кухню). Конечно температура в другой комнате меньше чем в той где кондиционер, но все же как вариант обхода установки второго кондиционера. Приточка. Да, на самом деле поступает свежий воздух и не чувствуешь "затхлый" запах - как после работы других кондиционеров. Но! Если поставить на низкую можность приточки - тогда для двух человек в комнате воздуха все равно не хватает. Если же включить приточку на полную можность - то появляется слишком большой шум (днём нормально, но ночью не уснёшь). Но справедливости ради могу сказать, что минимальная приточка лучше чем шум от машин с открытым окном. И еще, при установке пытайтесть сделать как можно меньшее растояние между внутренним и внешнем блоком. Так как чем больше длина трубы подачи свежего воздуха - тем "труднее" втягивать воздух вовнутрь и мощность может упасть. ИТОГО: Достойный выбор, для тех кто живет рядом с автомобильной дорогой (или др. шумным объектом)
13 лет назад
Достоинства:
Daikin
Недостатки:
Цена
Комментарий:
Не стоит этих денег. Просто с курсом рубля нет смысла покупать за эти деньги. Можно купить качественный кондиционер в треть дешевле этой цены. Конечно каждый выбирает сам, но 100к перебор.
7 лет назад
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Возможно использование как для охлаждения, так и для обогрева комнаты, легкая настройка необходимой мощности и температуры. Работает тихо.
Недостатки:
цена кусается, но функций полезных много, поэтому и взял.
Комментарий:
Уже несколько лет кондиционеры этой же фирмы установлены и исправно работают в нашей компании, в нескольких офисах. Не припомню, чтоб вызывали мастера для устранения неполадок, а заводского брака точно не встречалось. Поэтому выбирая устройство для дома начал присматривать модель именно этого производителя. О покупке не жалею. Кондиционер ближайшие годы будет отвечать за качество воздуха в моем жилье, и я ему доверяю.
10 лет назадПсков
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Выбирала модель с притоком свежего воздуха, таких на май 2009 года было 2 - этот и Хитачи, у которого приток в разы меньше. Не могу спать с закрытым окном, но на улице шумно. Теперь же проветриваемся на ура при закрытых двойных стеклопакетах. Множество режимов, фиксация потока в любом направлении (диван стоит прямо под кондером, однако поток идет вверх и вбок, на нас не дует), уровень шума при ночном режиме минимален. Наиболее часто пользуемся функциями: проветривание и очищение приточного воздуха - всю ночь и несколько раз в день; мощное охлаждение и проветривание (30 минут) -особенно летом; нагревание - утром зимой очень актуально для таких мерзлячек,как я; увлажнение - зимой при включенных батареях; осушение - при сушке выстиранного белья в комнате; легкий бриз - в жару; и еще, наверное,что-то, надо инструкцию почитать повнимательнее=)
Недостатки:
не обнаружены (в использовании с мая 2009 г.)
Комментарий:
Он полностью себя окупает. Эти деньги - мой несложившийся 2хнедельный отпуск на море. Я не жалею. И еще: любая цена у официального допускает возможность скидки, он стоил 135 тысяч, я взяла за 82 вместе с установкой.
14 лет назад
Комментарий 100545793
Орлова Светлана, "увлажнение - зимой при включенных батареях;" - возникло 4 вопроса. 1) Он умеет увлажнять без обогрева и охлаждения, т.е. чисто режим увлажнения? 2) Какой уровень влажности с ним и без него зимой. 3) Насколько шумно в режиме увлажнения? 4) Летом не замечала, что без увлажнения кондиционер сушит воздух? Не пользовалась увлажнением в режиме охлаждения?
Орлова Светлана, "увлажнение - зимой при включенных батареях;" - возникло 4 вопроса. 1) Он умеет увлажнять без обогрева и охлаждения, т.е. чисто режим увлажнения? 2) Какой уровень влажности с ним и без него зимой. 3) Насколько шумно в режиме увлажнения? 4) Летом не замечала, что без увлажнения кондиционер сушит воздух? Не пользовалась увлажнением в режиме охлаждения?
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Главное - хорошая вентиляция, отличная очистка воздуха, на тихих режимах действительно тихий.
Недостатки:
Недостатки не критичны по сравнению с достоинствами
Комментарий:
Главное это большой диаметр трубопровода вентиляции (диаметр - 1 дюйм), что позволяет достаточно неплохо проветривать помещение. Кондиционер показал на что он способен летом 2010 года в Подмосковье (рязанское направление), где было полно гари (на улице глаза резало) и довольно жарко - в квартире при этом был прохладный, абсолютно чистый и СВЕЖИЙ воздух. Сейчас, спустя несколько лет, досих пор невижу конкурентов данному кондиционеру.
11 лет назад
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Приточная вентиляция вполне достаточна для трёх человек(кажется очень сильно параметр изменился на новых моделях, даже в техдокументации пишут, что 32 не литра, а кубометра воздуха в час), режим осушения - суперштука для закрытых окон и дверей. У кондиционера огромный испаритель, сравнивал с митсубиси 5ой. Удобное и понятное управление. Наличие режима повышенной мощности и режима борьбы с плесенью (ранее не замечал таких опций у други кондеев)
Недостатки:
Достаточно шумен в режиме вентиляции, нет регулировки направления шторок (есть режим непопадания в людей, когда кондей дует вверх и вбок), сам по себе внешний и внутренний блоки большие и тяжёлые. Цена.
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дорого, как и всё лучшее.
12 лет назад
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