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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Фонарь, название.
Недостатки:
Цена ему 1500руб. Хороший фонарь можно купить за 300руб. Динамик ужасный дребезгун. Собеседника не понять, половина слов тык-мык, правда иногда ничего. Батарея села через 10 дней. (Фонариком не пользовался, радио минут 20 за всё время, звонил немного). Упал на асфальт с 1,7м - подпрыгнул на резиновых накладках раз пять , вся пластмасса в царапинах и вмятинах. Пластик не практичный как на детской игрушке. В руке лежит хорошо если держать вверх дном, видно изобретатель узколадонный. Резиновые накладки сразу собрали весь мусор на себя и плохо чистятся. Нет футляра носить в кармане неудобно. Защитная плёнка больше экрана на 1мм, находит на корпус из-за этого отклипает. Память очень маленькая при блютузе, при фото, пишет что недостаточно памяти. Вставил карту он её не видит. Глазок камеры сразу покрылся пылью и почистить неудобно, нужно носить с собой ватную палочку.
Комментарий:
Как телефон ноль, фонарь и радио на охоту беру отдельно. Жутчайший аппарат. Вычёркиваю фирму из памяти напрочь.
9 лет назадРостов-на-Дону
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Автономная работа аккумулятора,гидропылезащищенность iP-68 в полном объеме,работа внутренней антенны FM-радио,прекрасный громкий внешний динамик при прослушивании аудио записей с возможностью внешнего регулирования, лучшее обеспечивание связи в сравнении с другими смартфонами .Были вдали от цивилизации у друзей их навороченные смарты молчали,пришлось обратиться к моему" фонарю",так они его прозвали и дозвониться домой. Есть возможность поделиться "питанием",хорошо лежит в руке,мощнейший фонарик,3 внешних разъема.
Недостатки:
Возможность случайного включения фонарика, что приводит к "посадке" аккума,когда это не нужно,через 4 года стерлись символы 4-х верхних кнопок и вышел из строя внешний динамик,найти замену пока не удалось,пришлось с большим трудом,более не выпускают эту модель,купить новый аппарат, тоже rg150.При наборе смс сообщений порядок букв на клавиатуре не соответствует буквам на экране,буквы при наборе пробиваются через пробел,нет секундомера,мало памяти в самом телефоне,завышенная цена,
Комментарий:
В целом данная модель RG-150 за 4 с лишнем года показала себя очень достойно,2 раза попадала в воду,минут по 10, с возможностью просушки через сутки.После чего продолжает работать по сей день,не работает только внешний динамик,я не слышу вызова ,сигнал лишь отражается на мониторе причину выхода его из строя в мастерской не смогли объяснить и под замену аналога не нашли. С полной ответственностью советую данную модель RG150 охотникам,рыбакам,туристам.
4 года назадДимитровград
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Прост и надёжен, как русское оружие. Фонарь мощный. Звук звонка слышен за километры (причём сделать его тише не получится). Заряжает смартфоны. Работает без подзарядки при интенсивном использовании не менее 3-х недель. Водонепроницаемый.
Недостатки:
Заоблачная цена для обычного кнопочного телефона. Из современного в нём нет практически ничего.
Комментарий:
Малоизвестный китайский бренд. Брал за 7000р. Использую 7,5 лет. За это время ни одной (!) поломки. В каких передрягах он только не побывал (горы Адыгеи и т.п.). Внешний вид как у старого солдата удачи)) Потрёпанный, но не побеждённый)) Жаль что такой телефон больше не выпускают. С таким даже апокалипсис не страшен.
3 года назадТаганрог
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Ёмкая АКБ (аккумуляторная батарея), мощный и очень громкий динамик, радиоприёмник работает без подключения наушников в качестве антенны, телефон не теряется в руке, достаточно яркий светодиодный фонарь, 2 сим карты, возможность установки карты памяти micro CD до 32 Гб.
Недостатки:
Слабая камера, 1,3 Мп., наушники не ахти, большая площадь пластиковых деталей на корпусе, который можно было бы заменить на прорезиненный.
Комментарий:
Телефон приобрёл 21.09.14г.. В комплекте телефон, наушники, зарядник (микро USB с удлинённым штекером), инструкция, АКБ, отвёртка-брелок, для закручивания болтиков крышки. Коробочка достаточно добротная, на ней описания на русском языке. Телефон собрал, включил, уровень заряда АКБ показывал 4 деления из 5-и. Естественно я его стал юзать по полной программе, фонариком играться, радио слушать. В общем начального заводского заряда аккумулятора хватило на 3 дня, уж очень я активно гонял телефон, плюс АКБ естественно "не раскачанный". Через эти 3 дня поставил на зарядку на всю ночь. Ну вот, уже 5 дней работает, на индикаторе заряда аккумулятора осталось 2 деления из пяти. По моим предварительным подсчётам, на этот раз на 7-8 дней его хватит. После этого, дав ему самостоятельно полностью разрядится, поставлю его опять на ночь, на полную зарядку, тем самым подраскачаю и так раза 3 сделаю, уверен, что время работы его ещё продлится, думаю до 10 дней уверенной работы будет в нём. Этого вполне достаточно. Ранее юзал Филипсы Ксениумы, да, там есть модели, которые превзойдут по длительности работы многих, НО......, там нет такой степени защиты и все они боятся воды, в линейке Филипсов. Этот же, "неубивашка", хорошо защищён, дождь и падения не по чём, фонарь (для телефона), отменный, просто бомба, не шучу. Яркий, 4 режима, простой свет, яркий, стробоскоп, и SOS. У него на боковинах есть полоски резиновые, защитные что ли, в них же спрятаны кнопки, слева - фонарика, справа - громкость динамика, радио, звонка и т.д. Так вот в идеале хотелось бы чтобы основная часть корпуса, точнее большая его часть, была из такого прорезиненного материала. Вчера, тестировал его на неубиваемость, от внешней динамики. Подбрасывал вверх, на высоту 1,5-2 метра, он падал на линолеум, ковролин, паркет, дважды пнул ногой, в пол силы. Всё работает, жужжит, светится. Царапинки на пластике остаются конечно, не так заметны они, но есть. Это к вопросу о прорезиненном корпусе.
9 лет назадМосква и Московская область
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Аккумулятор, фонарик, им можно заряжать смартфон, планшет и т.п., простота обращения, звук, хороший динамик, пульт блютус.
Недостатки:
камера никакая(да она ему и не нужна), очень громкий звук даже на "1"
Комментарий:
Теперь по порядку: Очень емкий аккумулятор, зарядки хватает от 13 до 23 дней, хотя общаюсь много, все зависит от того как пользоваться(если пользоваться фонарем, пульт блютус и слушать радио через динамик, то дней 10. Если только звонки: у меня рекорд 23 дня учитывая то, что все таки пользовался фонарем и громким динамиком). С этим телефоном громкая связь в машине ни нужна. Когда едешь в автобусе или метро и если зазвонит телефон, то оборачиваются весь вагон(всем интересно у кого такой громкий звук, повторюсь звук на "1"), если поставить на "7", то те у кого слабое сердце, могут получить инфаркт, а ночью в тихой квартире даже здоровый человек обгадится 100%. Телефон брал в ноябре 2014, ценник был гуманнее 5990р, и то долго думал брать или нет. Кто-то там писал, что он стоил 3т.р., потом 5т.р., такого не было, я его взял как новинку и он изначально стоил 5990р, теперь подорожал. Брал как второй тел-говорилку. Специально не испытывал, но он падал ребром об кафель с высоты 170см(небольшая царапина), упал в лужу из реагентов(Москва как ни как), при этом я его не специально пнул ногой и он улетел в жижу(помыл щеткой с фейри), падал в снег много раз. Чуть не забыл: фонарь, в прямом смысле слова фонарь, светит метров на 100. Некоторые стонут, тяжелый, огромный: по моему это те, которые ходят в зауженных розовых штанах и т.п., и кроме своего ... и тонкой сигареты ничего тяжелее не поднимали "ИМХО". Я телефоном доволен, веду активный образ жизни, не волнуюсь за него ни капли. Если вдруг расшибу или потеряю, куплю опять такой же. Чисто мужской телефон.
9 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
- Ловит сеть превосходно, даже там где ее очень мало - Звук динамика - можно как магнитолу в машине, очень громкий - Можно увеличивать звук при разговоре, тоже громкий - Звонок супер, можно использовать свои мелодии - Батарея хватает на неделю, потом заряжаю, но запас еще есть - Фонарь супер, очень нужен в работе, батарею жрет не сильно, если целый день с ним ходить, то телефон под вечер садиться. - Зарядка черед докстанцию - Поддержка 2 Сим карты - Быстро подключается к магнитоле в машине для громкой связи - не промокает
Недостатки:
Не заметил, иногда подглючивал, но так редко, что я даже не понял это сеть или что))
Комментарий:
Купил для него докстанцию, что бы заряжать без штекера через боковые разъемы, докстанция подходит от предыдущей модели.
5 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
прочный надежный удобный за семь лет ни разу не подвел.
Недостатки:
раз в неделю выключается минут на пять сам .
Комментарий:
За долгое время службы на флоте много у меня телефонов пришло в негодность то зальет дождем то после падения аппарат умирал этой модели все нипочем и в море плавал и падал много раз да машиной его давили живой .
6 лет назадВязники
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Корпус, адский многорежимный фонарик со стробоскопом, аккумулятор (наверное), эргономика клавиатуры,радио без гарнитуры работает,дизайн,упаковка
Недостатки:
звук как внешний так и внутренний,софт, камера,вторая симка только мини
Комментарий:
Заказал этот аппарат, получил, протестировал и вернул обратно в жутком расстройстве. Самый главный минус это звук, на полной громкости собеседника едва слышно (и это в тихой квартире) качество частот на три с минусом, к тому же косяк почти всех защищённых телефонов дребезжание слухового динамика, гудки при дозвоне вообще ужас аж ухо чешется, при разговоре несколько лучше но после нескольких минут общения становится невыносимо. Внешний динамик тоже неприятно удивил, он в отличии от разговорного слишком громкий причём варианта два: громкий и адски громкий.Тоже касается проигрывания радио и плеера,только громко.Неудачное меню,например при попытке позвонить приходится дважды жать клавишу посыла вызова и много чего ещё неприятного, после нокии вообще тихий ужас. Камеру лучше бы вообще не ставили,снимки тёмные и размытые,детализации вообще никакой,зачем она эта камера? Также неприятно удивил тот факт,что вторую симку можно пихнуть только формата мини и это при таких-то размерах телефона и внутреннего пространства. Отличный фонарик, но кнопка включения сбоку через чур мягкая и не блокируется,велика вероятность самопроизвольного включения в кармане или сумке. В целом можно сказать, что RugGear опять "не до конца", идея отличная и чисто внешне телефон просто супер (по сравнению с предшественниками), фонарик-моё почтение, но такие залипухи с динамиками совершенно не простительны и не терпимы. Надеюсь и уповаю,что граждане китайцы наймут когда-нибудь толкового европеоида,который программно всё наладит и они займут наконец свою заслуженную внедорожную нишу.
9 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
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Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Корпус,функции,экран,громкость.
Недостатки:
Попользовался и скажу. Все-таки это китайский телефон,ребята.
Комментарий:
Имею опыт владения 15 телефонами(люблю пробовать новое). Все, что заявлено в описании - работает. Этот телефон не будет для Вас разочарованием,если купите за 2500 рублей. И он действительно интереснее, чем его прототип "той самой известной фирмы" (кстати,сборка на тех же заводах,так пишут на сайте производители). Дисплей хорош для чтения СМС. Они не приходят разорванными, как на телефон за 1000 рублей. Камера слабая. Но что-то экстренно снять можно. Корпус не сталь в резине, а пластмасса.Может быть,противоударная ABS. Об этом можно спросить на сайте производителя. Фонарь, громкость - мощь. Ухватистая форма,и нормальный вес. Именно тот,который должен быть для его размера.
9 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
очень громкий звонок. я слышу сквозь музыку с ipod, а также вижу по лицам и причёскам окружающих. абсолютно непроницаем. если я в душе, то из него поёт музыка (карта памяти на 16Гиг), и естественно на него льётся поток воды. но самое главное, у него батарея 2500мач , что для телефона ГИГАНТСКИ много. по моему он просто не садиться. А также есть специальный выход для подзарядки других телефонов смартфонов... - настоящий USB (мама). очень яркий фонарь. настоящий, а не подсветка от вспышки.
Недостатки:
нет
Комментарий:
я его купил на борту самолёта (магазин беспошлинной торговли), не регулировался уровень звонка. ОРАЛ НА ПОЛНУЮ )) пришлось его довезти до сервиса на новых черёмушках (по гарантии, за 4 минуты сменили прошивку). всё работает замечательно.
9 лет назадЗвенигород
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В комплекте телефон, наушники, зарядник (микро USB с удлинённым штекером), инструкция, АКБ, отвёртка-брелок, для закручивания болтиков крышки. Коробочка достаточно добротная, на ней описания на русском языке. Телефон собрал, включил, уровень заряда АКБ показывал 4 деления из 5-и. Естественно я его стал юзать по полной программе, фонариком играться, радио слушать. В общем начального заводского заряда аккумулятора хватило на 3 дня, уж очень я активно гонял телефон, плюс АКБ естественно \"не раскачанный\". Через эти 3 дня поставил на зарядку на всю ночь. Ну вот, уже 5 дней работает, на индикаторе заряда аккумулятора осталось 2 деления из пяти. По моим предварительным подсчётам, на этот раз на 7-8 дней его хватит. После этого, дав ему самостоятельно полностью разрядится, поставлю его опять на ночь, на полную зарядку, тем самым подраскачаю и так раза 3 сделаю, уверен, что время работы его ещё продлится, думаю до 10 дней уверенной работы будет в нём. Этого вполне достаточно. Ранее юзал Филипсы Ксениумы, да, там есть модели, которые превзойдут по длительности работы многих, НО......, там нет такой степени защиты и все они боятся воды, в линейке Филипсов.\r\nЭтот же, \"неубивашка\", хорошо защищён, дождь и падения не по чём, фонарь (для телефона), отменный, просто бомба, не шучу. Яркий, 4 режима, простой свет, яркий, стробоскоп, и SOS.\r\nУ него на боковинах есть полоски резиновые, защитные что ли, в них же спрятаны кнопки, слева - фонарика, справа - громкость динамика, радио, звонка и т.д. Так вот в идеале хотелось бы чтобы основная часть корпуса, точнее большая его часть, была из такого прорезиненного материала. \r\nВчера, тестировал его на неубиваемость, от внешней динамики. Подбрасывал вверх, на высоту 1,5-2 метра, он падал на линолеум, ковролин, паркет, дважды пнул ногой, в пол силы. Всё работает, жужжит, светится. Царапинки на пластике остаются конечно, не так заметны они, но есть. Это к вопросу о прорезиненном корпусе.","pro":"Ёмкая АКБ (аккумуляторная батарея), мощный и очень громкий динамик, радиоприёмник работает без подключения наушников в качестве антенны, телефон не теряется в руке, достаточно яркий светодиодный фонарь, 2 сим карты, возможность установки карты памяти micro CD до 32 Гб.","contra":"Слабая камера, 1,3 Мп., наушники не ахти, большая площадь пластиковых деталей на корпусе, который можно было бы заменить на прорезиненный.","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":52,"reject":7,"total":59,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва и Московская область"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"51045927":{"entity":"review","id":"51045927","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":11034820,"userId":25380548,"anonymous":0,"created":1412792347000,"averageGrade":2,"comment":"Заказал этот аппарат, получил, протестировал и вернул обратно в жутком расстройстве. Самый главный минус это звук, на полной громкости собеседника едва слышно (и это в тихой квартире) качество частот на три с минусом, к тому же косяк почти всех защищённых телефонов дребезжание слухового динамика, гудки при дозвоне вообще ужас аж ухо чешется, при разговоре несколько лучше но после нескольких минут общения становится невыносимо. Внешний динамик тоже неприятно удивил, он в отличии от разговорного слишком громкий причём варианта два: громкий и адски громкий.Тоже касается проигрывания радио и плеера,только громко.Неудачное меню,например при попытке позвонить приходится дважды жать клавишу посыла вызова и много чего ещё неприятного, после нокии вообще тихий ужас. Камеру лучше бы вообще не ставили,снимки тёмные и размытые,детализации вообще никакой,зачем она эта камера? Также неприятно удивил тот факт,что вторую симку можно пихнуть только формата мини и это при таких-то размерах телефона и внутреннего пространства. Отличный фонарик, но кнопка включения сбоку через чур мягкая и не блокируется,велика вероятность самопроизвольного включения в кармане или сумке.\r\n В целом можно сказать, что RugGear опять \"не до конца\", идея отличная и чисто внешне телефон просто супер (по сравнению с предшественниками), фонарик-моё почтение, но такие залипухи с динамиками совершенно не простительны и не терпимы. Надеюсь и уповаю,что граждане китайцы наймут когда-нибудь толкового европеоида,который программно всё наладит и они займут наконец свою заслуженную внедорожную нишу.","pro":"Корпус, адский многорежимный фонарик со стробоскопом, аккумулятор (наверное), эргономика клавиатуры,радио без гарнитуры работает,дизайн,упаковка","contra":"звук как внешний так и внутренний,софт, камера,вторая симка только мини","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":40,"reject":12,"total":52,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Санкт-Петербург"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"52823273":{"entity":"review","id":"52823273","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":11034820,"userId":256135758,"anonymous":0,"created":1418209960000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"я его купил на борту самолёта (магазин беспошлинной торговли), не регулировался уровень звонка. ОРАЛ НА ПОЛНУЮ )) пришлось его довезти до сервиса на новых черёмушках (по гарантии, за 4 минуты сменили прошивку). всё работает замечательно.","pro":"очень громкий звонок. я слышу сквозь музыку с ipod, а также вижу по лицам и причёскам окружающих. абсолютно непроницаем. если я в душе, то из него поёт музыка (карта памяти на 16Гиг), и естественно на него льётся поток воды. но самое главное, у него батарея 2500мач , что для телефона ГИГАНТСКИ много. по моему он просто не садиться. А также есть специальный выход для подзарядки других телефонов смартфонов... - настоящий USB (мама). очень яркий фонарь. настоящий, а не подсветка от вспышки.","contra":"нет","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":29,"reject":1,"total":30,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Звенигород"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"54283159":{"entity":"review","id":"54283159","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":11034820,"userId":102364151,"anonymous":0,"created":1422879518000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Теперь по порядку: Очень емкий аккумулятор, зарядки хватает от 13 до 23 дней, хотя общаюсь много, все зависит от того как пользоваться(если пользоваться фонарем, пульт блютус и слушать радио через динамик, то дней 10. Если только звонки: у меня рекорд 23 дня учитывая то, что все таки пользовался фонарем и громким динамиком). С этим телефоном громкая связь в машине ни нужна. Когда едешь в автобусе или метро и если зазвонит телефон, то оборачиваются весь вагон(всем интересно у кого такой громкий звук, повторюсь звук на \"1\"), если поставить на \"7\", то те у кого слабое сердце, могут получить инфаркт, а ночью в тихой квартире даже здоровый человек обгадится 100%. Телефон брал в ноябре 2014, ценник был гуманнее 5990р, и то долго думал брать или нет. Кто-то там писал, что он стоил 3т.р., потом 5т.р., такого не было, я его взял как новинку и он изначально стоил 5990р, теперь подорожал.\r\nБрал как второй тел-говорилку. Специально не испытывал, но он падал ребром об кафель с высоты 170см(небольшая царапина), упал в лужу из реагентов(Москва как ни как), при этом я его не специально пнул ногой и он улетел в жижу(помыл щеткой с фейри), падал в снег много раз. Чуть не забыл: фонарь, в прямом смысле слова фонарь, светит метров на 100.\r\nНекоторые стонут, тяжелый, огромный: по моему это те, которые ходят в зауженных розовых штанах и т.п., и кроме своего ... и тонкой сигареты ничего тяжелее не поднимали \"ИМХО\".\r\nЯ телефоном доволен, веду активный образ жизни, не волнуюсь за него ни капли. Если вдруг расшибу или потеряю, куплю опять такой же. \r\nЧисто мужской телефон.","pro":"Аккумулятор, фонарик, им можно заряжать смартфон, планшет и т.п., простота обращения, звук, хороший динамик, пульт блютус.","contra":"камера никакая(да она ему и не нужна), очень громкий звук даже на \"1\"","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":49,"reject":4,"total":53,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"55354305":{"entity":"review","id":"55354305","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":11034820,"userId":281320789,"anonymous":0,"created":1427024511000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Имею опыт владения 15 телефонами(люблю пробовать новое).\r\n Все, что заявлено в описании - работает. Этот телефон не будет для Вас разочарованием,если купите за 2500 рублей. И он действительно интереснее, чем его прототип \"той самой известной фирмы\" (кстати,сборка на тех же заводах,так пишут на сайте производители).\r\n Дисплей хорош для чтения СМС. Они не приходят разорванными, как на телефон за 1000 рублей.\r\n Камера слабая. Но что-то экстренно снять можно.\r\n Корпус не сталь в резине, а пластмасса.Может быть,противоударная ABS. Об этом можно спросить на сайте производителя.\r\n Фонарь, громкость - мощь.\r\n Ухватистая форма,и нормальный вес. Именно тот,который должен быть для его размера.","pro":"Корпус,функции,экран,громкость.","contra":"Попользовался и скажу. 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