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Мониторный сабвуфер JBL 308P MkII
Студийный монитор JBL 308P MKII

Цена с картой Яндекс Пэй:49 490

Скидка: 1%
–1 %
Вместо: 49 990
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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Чистый и мощный звук, взял для прослушивания дома, вместо компонентной акустики, использую в связке с TEAC UD-505-X. Конечно многие композиции зазвучали по-другому, "по-честному" как пишут иногда, при описании работы мониторов. Эта честность не всегда нравится, но если хочется "понравится" - всегда можно поработать с эквалайзером, никто не мешает. Я понимаю, что мониторы другого ценового сегмента будут звучать лучше и "точнее", но и этот уровень - очень даже впечатляет. Своим приобретением полностью доволен.
Недостатки:
1. Ламинирование плёнкой, в месте крепления к передней части акустики - отходит, перед покупкой продавец заранее об этом сообщил, как выяснилось - это частая проблема. На звук не влияет, эстетическое недовольство. 2. По сравнению с обычной "домашней" акустикой звук очень направленный. При попадании в фокус - отчетливо слышна стереопанорама и вся прелесть чистого звука, но стоит чуть отклониться от фокуса - тут уже такой красивой панорамы не слышно. Возможно мне нужно поиграться с расположением акустики, и направленность пропадет, не пробовал.
Год назадУфа
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
1) Детальность и глубина, которой не было в MK1. 2) Приятный и быстрый низ, с которым можно работать. 3) Крутое 3d стерео.
Недостатки:
Глянцевый пластик моментально собрал пыль. Попытки её убрать мягкой тряпкой привели в появлению мелких царапин. Это фиаско, Господа. Как можно было додуматься до такого косметического решения, хз.
Комментарий:
Несколько лет работал на lsr 305 mk1. В первые минуты прослушивания 8' mk2 возникло двоякое чувство. Вроде бы звук стал лучше, но ему как будто не хватало ясности и яркости в середине. Спустя примерно месяц использования стало понятно, что новые восьмерки воспроизводят звук таким, каков он есть (в отличие от lsr305, полагаю, что и lsr308). Все косяки сведения, как на ладони. Слишком зажатые сибилянты, перебор с компрессией, муть в середине и многое другое отлично воспроизводится новыми 8'. А еще они научились звучать вглубь. За счёт этого и стерео образ стал еще объемнее и точнее. На mk1 звук хорошо раскладывался по панораме, но зажимался в одной плоскости. Видимо из-за этого вся музыка на них выглядела +/- одинаково. К тому же, присутствовала грязь на верхней середине, что придавало колонкам агрессивный, крикливый характер. Видимо, привыкнув за несколько лет к такому звучанию, я был сбит с толку в первые дни использования 308p. Теперь четко слышно, что, например, в некоторых композициях инструменты задвинуты слишком далеко и им не хватает четкости. Также отлично слышно отсутствие планов. Отдельное внимание хочется уделить верхнему диапазону. В серии mk2 он совсем другой. Если вы знакомы с mk1, то скорее всего будете удивлены тому, как быстро и четко стали звучать высокие частоты. Итог. Восьмерки mk2 уверенно уделывают предыдущую серию и многие другие мониторы из этого ценового сегмента. Возможно они смогут составить конкуренции классу повыше.
4 года назадКрасноярск
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Хороший звук относительно цена/качества.
Недостатки:
Пока не заметил
Комментарий:
Вообще все относительно. Смог позволить себе эти мониторы за эти деньги и пользуюсь для написания и сведения своей музыки. Если бюджет позволяет, почему бы не взять? Если есть больше, можно взять другого ценового класса акустику. Да, есть шум от них небольшой, если слушать их слишком близко, но это ничуть не мешает работе, вообще они не должны быть слишком близко расположены к ушам, в таком случае баса не слышно как минимум, по крайней мере в моем акустическом окружении именно так, нужно отходить метра на два и тогда бас качает!!! Примерно минут через 10 уходят в спящий режим, если они не задействованы никак, считаю это очень удобным. Начинают засыпать, если звук очень тихий на выходе. На сколько тихий? - меня интересовал этот вопрос до покупки, прочитав об этом от других пользователей. Ну например в одной комнате спит человек и ты хочешь что-то на послушать для себя, речь например, то в таком режиме прослушивания он уйдет в оффлайн, но мониторы не для этого, за редким исключением. Мониторы тяжелые, сделаны качественно, если кому интересно, но на это не обращаешь никакого внимания, их поставил и забыл про их внешний вид или конструктив, просто работаешь и все. Со временем куплю для них стойки, сейчас они стоят на столе вместе с монитором компьютерным , такое расположение неправильное, картина по звучанию полностью не раскрывается. Надеюсь кому то поможет мой отзыв.
4 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Звук довольно волшебный. АЧХ на слух похоже весьма ровная. Измерительным микрофоном пока не пробовал.
Недостатки:
ШИПИТ подлец! Реально шипит. С полутора-двух метров слышно довольно очетливо. Гораздо сильнее чем Microlab solo 1, которые они заменили. У тех надо ухи в твиттер подносить что бы услышать шипение. Это именно шипение твиттера. Не наводки, не земляная петля или еще какой бред на форумах в инете упоминают. Шипение одной и той же громкости, вне зависимости от выставленной крутилкой громкости и селектора чувствительности входа (+4 или -10dbv) Это известная проблема всей линейки JBL 3й серии еще с предыдущей итерации (LSR). Причина - предположительно недостаточно качественные фильтры усилителя твиттера. Там используется цифровой усилитель класса D на STA350BW. Схема похоже из даташита микросхемы. Заявленный SNR 75db, макс давление 112db - ну вот на 37db наверное и шипит :) Брал как колонки к компу - слышно поверх вентиляторов. Но у меня очень тихий компьютер. Если планируете использовать к компу - возможно стоит обратить внимание на 305 + 310й саб. Они поменьше, усилитель чуть слабее (схема та-же) - может и шипят потише. По цене выйдет примерно так же. Глянец беспонтовый. Лучше бы оставили матовым как в LSR308.
Комментарий:
Басы есть, и довольно неплохие, но конечно не как хороший саб. Если хотите слушать грудной клеткой - наверное нужен саб (JBL рекомендует LSR310S)
5 лет назадЧеркесск
Комментарий 102165874
Zar S., По поводу шипения ВЧ, слышал что помогают более качественные кабеля TRS, но это не точно)
Zar S., По поводу шипения ВЧ, слышал что помогают более качественные кабеля TRS, но это не точно)
Комментарий 102887449
Шипит плохая топология электронной платы, там по общей земле грязь ацп лезет на вход импульсного усилителя. Это никак не исправить. Просто не подходите к ним близко и наслаждайтесь музыкой как и я). Это потрясающая акустика за копейки.
Шипит плохая топология электронной платы, там по общей земле грязь ацп лезет на вход импульсного усилителя. Это никак не исправить. Просто не подходите к ним близко и наслаждайтесь музыкой как и я). Это потрясающая акустика за копейки.
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
1. Звук для сведения и написания музыки приемлем! 2. Регулировка частот и громкости 3. Высокие - их немного и не мало! То что нужно! Для этой модели отлично! 4. Низ - хорошо! Но есть и один минус) 5. Вполне ровное АЧХ 6. Фазоинвертор сзади 7. Для панорамирования - идеально! Сведено и написано более 100 треков - все отрабатывает, как нужно!
Недостатки:
1. Да! Как и у большинства шум. Не так страшно и не надоедает. 2. Глянец. Пыль. Дело вкуса. С радостью поменял бы на матовый) 3. Бас - в неподготовленной комнате и особенно неравномерной, он будет плавать у вас! Решаемо! Ловушками и правильной расстановкой.
3 года назадОренбург
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Отличный звук за свою цену. В детальности, конечно, проигрывают более дорогим моделям, но не критично. За эти деньги лучше точно не найдете. В предыдущих комментариях прочитал, что кого-то напрягает шипение и еще кто-то умудрился сравнить их с Microlab Solo1 (которые в 2 раза меньше по мощности). Ребята, вы видимо никогда не слушали дорогих мониторов. Белый шум есть везде и он зависит от мощности. Хотите меньше шума - покупайте мониторы меньшего размера (5-6 дюймов). 8ки не предназначены для прослушивании с расстояния 0.5-1м. А при большем расстоянии никакого шума вы не услышите.
Недостатки:
Дешевые материалы корпуса
3 года назадСанкт-Петербург
Комментарий 105504260
В 306P точно те же самые усилители, что и в 308P, той же мощности, так что вряд ли будут шипеть тише. Другое дело, 305P, они менее мощные. (Кстати, я сравнивал при покупке шипение 305P с 306P, разницу посчитал не критичной, взял 306). К шипению привык и через год перестал замечать, разве что при выключении колонок по таймеру обращаю внимание, что оно пропало. Вообще перестало раздражать, одно удовольствие осталось.
В 306P точно те же самые усилители, что и в 308P, той же мощности, так что вряд ли будут шипеть тише. Другое дело, 305P, они менее мощные. (Кстати, я сравнивал при покупке шипение 305P с 306P, разницу посчитал не критичной, взял 306). К шипению привык и через год перестал замечать, разве что при выключении колонок по таймеру обращаю внимание, что оно пропало. Вообще перестало раздражать, одно удовольствие осталось.
Куплен на Маркете
Товар продавца Плеер
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Хорошие колонки
2 года назадСмоленск
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Плавное включение. Красивый дизайн. Качество звука.
Недостатки:
Присутствует высокочастотный шип. Даже если АС просто включена в сеть. Возможно если подключить через стабилизатор, то шип пропадет. так как работаю не в ближнем поле, то шип не напрягает.
Комментарий:
В целом за свои деньги очень достойная АС. Для работы с сериалами и роликами вполне. Возможно для сведения музыки мало будет низов. Работают уже больше 3-х лет. Все нормально.
4 года назадСанкт-Петербург
Куплен на Маркете
Товар продавца Яндекс Маркет
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Звук отличный, баса хватает, можно смело брать без сабвуфера.
Недостатки:
Шипения твитера. (Шипение слышно отчетливо но в целом не кретично, тем более если они будут на стойках)
Комментарий:
В целом покупкой более чем доволен, так что всем рекомендую.
3 года назадКоммунар
Комментарий 106089992
Sasha Kholupov, Шипение мониторов - это нормально. Ну расстоянии метра шипения уже нет.
Sasha Kholupov, Шипение мониторов - это нормально. Ну расстоянии метра шипения уже нет.
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Красивые, добротно сделаны, хороший звук
Комментарий:
Я очень боялся шипения твитеров, и оно действительно есть. Но оно очень тихое, заметно только в мёртвой тишине. Так что вообще не проблема. Мониторы у меня на расстоянии вытянутой руки. Кровать рядом со столом, сплю нормально. Подумайте только если вы работаете ночью в тишине или с очень тихими записями.
4 года назадСанкт-Петербург
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