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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Клавиатура просто лучшая на рынке, тут без вопросов. Приятно тяжелая, отзывчивая, тихая. Есть блютуз, очень удобно управлять пианино через телефон. Стильный вид.
Недостатки:
В целом звук нормальный, глубокие басы, но все-таки глуховат и отдает электроникой в средних октавах. Видимо это издержки пластикового компактного корпуса и слабых динамиков.
Комментарий:
Если у вас немного денег, но хочется получше то это пожалуй самый подходящий вариант. Отличная клавиатура, неплохой звук, но с нюансами (описал в недостатках). Продал его из-за звука и приобрел roland f140r - тут уже со звуком всё отлично.
4 года назадИжевск
Комментарий 103550527
А не проще было купить сабвуфер с монитором(динамиком без искажений)?
А не проще было купить сабвуфер с монитором(динамиком без искажений)?
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Цифровое пианино полностью соответствует описанию. Приобретали в период пандемии для использования на даче, т.к. дома стоит классический инструмент. Теперь ежегодно возим туда-обратно, т.к. ребенок любит играть на этом инструменте. Перевозка инструмента не сказывается на функциональности!
Недостатки:
Хотелось бы рекомендовать производителю в комплектацию добавить чехол на клавиатуру!
Комментарий:
Хороший звук, поздно вечером можно играть в наушниках ))
Год назадСанкт-Петербург
Увеличить
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
- Великолепная механика клавиатуры, - Отличный звук (в своем классе), - Функциональность, коммутационные возможности (ПК, планшет, телефон), - Приложение Piano Partner 2 (для мобильных устройств), - Компактное, - Неплохо справляется с высокоомными наушниками (но, громкость в любых наушниках здесь не самая высокая, увы), - Стоимость (если повезет, можно найти почти по цене Yamaha P-115). PS делюсь инструкцией на русском https://yadi.sk/i/FDz_hSnc3RFd3S
Недостатки:
- Нет полного контроля настроек инструмента через приложение Piano Partner 2, - Блютуз соединение чувствительно к помехам. Посторонние активные BT-устройства лучше держать на расстоянии, мне смарт-часы приходится снимать (возможно, частный случай), - Не самый громкий усилитель для наушников, - Для некоторых планшетов пюпитр может быть скользким (в комплекте есть наклейки противоскольжения). - Если придираться, "электронная" окраска послезвучий в интервалах и не самые достоверные затухания на мой слух (все равно, это лучший звук за сравнимые деньги), - Неотключаемый "растянутый" строй (если это кому то важно), - Нет MIDI (но, есть USB), - ОТК производителя.
Комментарий:
Механика клавиатуры здесь намного ближе к акустическому ф-но, чем в моем старом Yamaha P-105, клавиши с отличным покрытием. Звук богаче, чем у конкурентов, но с акустическим ф-но все равно не сравним. Учитывая, что стоимость одних только хороших мониторов значительно превышает стоимость FP-30, трудно требовать от инструмента "все-в-одном" абсолютно достоверного звука и я искренне благодарен производителю за то, что есть. Игра на Ямахе мне показалась более прощающей, чем на FP-30, тембры и механика на Ямахе более условны, Роланд точнее и интереснее. В первом купленном мной FP-30 клавиша Ре 1й октавы была на 1мм ниже остальных, инструмент пришлось менять. В остальном качество изготовления я нахожу достойным - корпус выполнен из качественного ABS пластика, собран крепко, выглядит отлично. Кому нужна показуха со стразами будут разочарованы - премиальности и прочих понтов здесь нет, все лаконично и только что бы играть. Клавиши FP-30 не абсолютно бесшумны, по стуку близки к ямаховским и намного тише чем у Касио. Звук в наушниках действительно не самый громкий, но для меня достаточный. Управление через клавиши не сложно, но наглядности нет, в планшете настройки ограничены. Пюпитр удобен, легко снимается и хорошо выглядит. Мой планшет в нем не скользит но я читал, что такое бывает. Педаль самая простая (on/off), у Ямахи она еще хуже (легче). Если есть желание сэкономить ~$100 на стойке, можете заказать её в любой мебельной мастерской по размерам: вертикали 2 шт. 272х663 мм и поперечина 200х1260 мм, она крепится на 130 мм ниже верхнего края, винты пианино 5х16, 4шт. Сверху, где инструмент ложится на стойку я просил установить 2 мм демпфер, возможно это и не обязательно. Стойка вместе с уголками для крепления пианино, винтами, конфирматами и подпятниками обошлась в $20, что дешевле даже самой плохой Х-стойки и определенно удобнее. Пятна есть и на солнце и у этого Роланда есть какие то недостатки, но это превосходный инструмент, на мой взгляд лучший за свою цену.
6 лет назадМинск
Комментарий 103694316
Подскажите, размеры стойки снимали с оригинальной? Хочу к подставке, сделанной по Вашим измерениям заказать педальный блок - интересно, станет ли заподлицо :)
Подскажите, размеры стойки снимали с оригинальной? Хочу к подставке, сделанной по Вашим измерениям заказать педальный блок - интересно, станет ли заподлицо :)
Комментарий 103751255
Большое спасибо за ваш полезный комментарий, также сделал себе стойку по вашим размерам в ближайшем Леруа Мерлен (был ближе всего), использовал уголки 50х55х30, 40х40х100, винты 5х20 (5х16 были мне маловаты вместе с шайбой), саморезы 3.5х16 и самые простые опоры. В первый раз занимался таким делом, получилось очень даже неплохо) Вышло меньше 1500, можно ещё дешевле, так как я по неопытности купил различные варианты крепежа, которые не понадобились P.S. Еще раз большое спасибо)
Большое спасибо за ваш полезный комментарий, также сделал себе стойку по вашим размерам в ближайшем Леруа Мерлен (был ближе всего), использовал уголки 50х55х30, 40х40х100, винты 5х20 (5х16 были мне маловаты вместе с шайбой), саморезы 3.5х16 и самые простые опоры. В первый раз занимался таким делом, получилось очень даже неплохо) Вышло меньше 1500, можно ещё дешевле, так как я по неопытности купил различные варианты крепежа, которые не понадобились P.S. Еще раз большое спасибо)
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
- Качество звука, рояльных, струнных сэмплов, - Относительная компактность корпуса (по глубине) - Клавиши на ощупь просто космос - Достаточно много встроенных сэмплов различных инструментов (если вы не матёрый электронщик, а играете для души, вряд ли потребуется GarageBand или аналоги) - Качественная игра в режиме двойного аккомпанемента (можно к роялю добавить практически любой инструмент из сэмплов и баланс звука тонко настраивается) - Клавиатура делится на 2 зоны, как для одновременной игры, так и для подыгрывания другим инструментом - Независимый уровень громкости для режима наушников и динамиков
Недостатки:
- САМЫЙ ГЛАВНЫЙ: нет режима "Bluetooth-аудио", вы не можете получить аудиосигнал с планшета/телефона на динамики пианино (в FP-60 и FP-90 эта функция есть) - ВТОРОЙ ГЛАВНЫЙ: в пианино нет и физического AUX IN ВЫВОД: если Вы играете в наушниках, чтобы слушать что происходит на планшете/телефоне, вам придется использовать... вторые наушники, воткнутые в планшет/телефон, или микшер :) это было совершенно неочевидно при покупке инструмента - Аудиовыход пианино чувствителен к наушникам, лучше выбирать модели с импедансом не выше 32 Ом - Динамики выходят в днище корпуса, если собираетесь играть на столешнице, звук будет немного приглушен (но это спорный недостаток, благодаря ему динамики установлены большие и качественные, что положительно сказывается на звуке)
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Приоритет при выборе был за компактностью, легкостью и качеством рояльных сэплов. Инструмент полностью удовлетворяет все эти параметры. Сравнивал с Yamaha P-125: у Ямахи клавиши создают отвратительное впечатление, будто из дешевого пластика на ощупь. FP-30 просто на 3 головы выше по тактильным ощущениям. Сравнивал с Casio CDP-S100: новинка от Casio заметно компактнее - это плюс. Клавиши с аналогичным покрытием, ощущения тоже приятные. Но вот звук... Даже в павильоне сразу слышно разницу. Чтобы не писали маркетологи, это начальный уровень. Если дорожите качеством рояльного звука - не берите. Хотел сравнить с Casio PX-S1000 (новая Привия в тонком корпусе), но к нам не завезли. По идее превосходство в габаритах и сходство по клавишам остается, но звук - надо слушать. Roland FP-30 очень хорош в белом цвете. Если понимаете, что в интерьер подходит именно белый - смело берите, не пожалеете. Ощущения от клавиш просто великолепны, первые дни реально хотелось их просто сидеть и гладить :) В своей ценовой нише - 45-47 тыс - этот инструмент лучше аналогов.
5 лет назадМинск
Комментарий 103550509
У меня клавиши Yamaha и Casio ассоциируются с канцелярским ластиков белым и черным принтом слон нарисован, в 90е только такие у всех были. Вот трогаешь клавишу и кажется ей можно карандаш стирать с листа - то ли резина, то ли каучук.
У меня клавиши Yamaha и Casio ассоциируются с канцелярским ластиков белым и черным принтом слон нарисован, в 90е только такие у всех были. Вот трогаешь клавишу и кажется ей можно карандаш стирать с листа - то ли резина, то ли каучук.
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
1. Отличная (хоть и более "тугая", нежели у механического пианино) клавиатура. 2. Хороший звук. 3. Отсутствие лишних свистелок/перделок/экранчиков и пр. (при необходимости реализуется через п.5). При этом удобная управляемость через хоткеи. 4. Компактность. 5. Работа через bluetooth с планшетом/телефоном. 6. Цена.
Недостатки:
Использование дополнительного программного обеспечения может вызвать вопросы.
Комментарий:
В интернете много хвалебных отзывов на данную модель. Поддержу их и не буду повторяться о том, что писали уже. Покупал данное изделие для обучения ребёнка. Ребёнок очень доволен (до этого пользовался копеечным китайским синтезатором MK-4100). Единственное затруднение вызвала стыковка агрегата с планшетом по Bluetooth. С устройством с BT версии 3 вообще ничего не вышло (Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 ME302C вообще не увидел FP30). Далее был испробован телефон Honor 7C. При этом FP30 видился в BT окружении, но в Piano Partner 2, скаченном из маркета (новая версия) FP30 отсутствует. На сайте roland было обнаружено обновление f/w. Из описания следовало, что обновлять мой агрегат не следует. Тем не менее я обновил f/w FP30 на версию с сайта и, о чудо, в Piano Partner 2 моё электронное пианино появилось. Однако при попытке подключения или ничего не происходило или через несколько минут программа "отваливалась" с ошибкой. Тогда я поискал предыдущие версии Piano Partner 2 в сети. Поставил версию 2.0.1 в которой сразу все отлично заработало. То есть потребовалось два шага -- обновление f/w в FP30 и ручная установка более старой версии приложения в телефон. После этого никаких нареканий к работе BT более не возникало. Аппарат понравился и мне. Пересмотрел много разных Ямах, Касио и прочих электронных пианино до 50 т.р. и это устройство приглянулось больше всего.
5 лет назадБлаговещенск
Комментарий 104827161
странно что поддержки в приложении ни какой. Была аналогичная проблема пока не поставил прежнюю версию. Служба поддержки не отвечает на вопросы
странно что поддержки в приложении ни какой. Была аналогичная проблема пока не поставил прежнюю версию. Служба поддержки не отвечает на вопросы
Увеличить
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
+ красивая, очень + клавиши лучше настоящих + отличнейший звук, в наушниках тоже
Недостатки:
- по блутусу как миди работает только с телефоном (обхожусь подключением по usb к ноуту) - не хватает разных тембров, три классических пианино друг на друга сильно похожи - ambience красивый, но его мало. Стоило добавить Hall, Room хотя бы
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Как пианино свою цену оправдывает более чем. Есть у более дорогих моделей функции, которые я внес в недостатки, но они не стоят доплаты в 30-40 тысяч. Они программные и их можно добавить даже с новой прошивкой. Тем не менее покупкой очень доволен, играю каждый день по несколько раз. Вернулась любовь к пиано. Есть куча других функций неважных для меня, но они полезные и будут вам интересны.
4 года назадРостов-на-Дону
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Прекрасное пианино, и звук и клавиатура. Взял за 50 000р, в эту цену модели от Casio и Yamaha проигрывают и по звучанию и по качеству клавиш. Просто сравните модели в магазине, разница огромная.
Недостатки:
Не выявлено.
Комментарий:
Лучший инструмент на рынке в своем ценовом диапозоне.
3 года назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Клавиатура - сказка! Насыщенные басы. Долго незатухающее звучание всего диапазана, и особенно - басов. Исключительно натуральный резонанс дэки. Возможность подключения педали с фунуцией полунажатия, и эта функция действительно работает. Подключение наушников с передней панели. Замечательный звук в наушниках. Несколько дейсвительно различающиеся друг от друга тембров фортепиано.
Недостатки:
Управление громкостью 2-мя кнопками (электронное) - это зло для любой модели. Управление тембрами и метрономом путаное, только с инструкцией в руках. Различимый, хотя и только вплотную ухом к динамику, шумок (фон). Несколько клавиш от фа до ля малой октавы при звучании в динамики имеют странный отзвук, как будто динамики засунули в пустое ведро (в наушниках этого отзвука нет, его также почти нет при определенных настройках прозрачности и амбиленса)
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Клавиатура такая, на которой действительно волшебно играется, музыка сама льётся из нее. И покрытие - просто чудо. Даже не смотря на отзвуки нескольких клавиш (см.раздел "недостатки") звук замечательный. Я понял это, вчера поиграв на casio privia примерно 4-х летнего возраста. По сравнению с моим roland'ом casio вообще не играет. И это не говоря про резиновую клавиатуру casio (как и на yamaha и kavai схожих моделей). Что касается наушников: действительно, звук может быть тихим. Но только для некоторых моделей наушников. В некоторых звук НЕ тихий. Этот феномен мне непонятен. Я испытывал несколько наушников с одинаковым импедансом и вообще схожих во всем, но громкость звука, действительно, сильно страдала в некоторых их них. ВЫВОД: дорогие все, особенно родители маленьких музыкантов! Не покупайте дешевые модели casio! Как они выглядят не имеет особого значения. Может быть соблазнительно купить бюджетный casio, но "никакой" звук и "никакая" клавиатура будут просто отбивать охоту заниматься! Играя вчера на casio, я поражался, как вообще можно на этом играть! И как же я с удовольствием потом долго играл на своем roland'е! Я очень рекомендую roland fp-30, а также замечательную педаль roland dp-10. Для экономных, но помнящих пословицу про скупого, платящего дважды.
6 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 102084946
А не подскажете в каких именно моделях наушников звук был достаточно громким?
А не подскажете в каких именно моделях наушников звук был достаточно громким?
Комментарий 102254999
Наушники Philips SHP2000 не рекомендую для этого пианино, так как звук приглушенный, наушники Sony MDR-XD150 звучат гораздо чище и громче. Наушники одинаковой ценовой категории, импеданс тоже заявлен одинаковый - 32 ома. В чем секрет- непонятно, но Sony эту модель можно рекомендовать.
Наушники Philips SHP2000 не рекомендую для этого пианино, так как звук приглушенный, наушники Sony MDR-XD150 звучат гораздо чище и громче. Наушники одинаковой ценовой категории, импеданс тоже заявлен одинаковый - 32 ома. В чем секрет- непонятно, но Sony эту модель можно рекомендовать.
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Отличный звук и клавиатура.
Недостатки:
Муторная система управления функционалом. Кошачья шерсть активно липнет на клавиши и корпус. Динамики снизу, если ставить на сплошную поверхность типа столешницы, звук будет глухой.
Комментарий:
В магазине щупал наравне с kawai es110 и yamaha p125. Клавиатура сделана интереснее, есть легкая ступенька посередине хода, в отличие от вышеназванных. Ямаха по ощущением ватная. Также не понравилась СИ первой и второй октавы (м.б. чисто индивидуальное). У P45 с этой нотой дела обстоят лучше. Каваи всем хорош, но разница в цене на момент покупки больше 10 тыс. Еще Роланд жмякать нужно чуть сильнее, для кого-то это м.б. недостатком. С другой стороны, при небольшом опыте легче добиться выразительности (мне так кажется). Если подытожить, то при одной цене взял бы Каваи, так как он звучит вкуснее, но у роланда клавиатура интереснее.
4 года назадЕкатеринбург
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Начала заниматься на роланде с нуля — все очень нравится. Занимаюсь через приложение SimplyPiano, за месяц уверенно освоила две октавы обоими руками. Синхронизировала пианино с приложением через блютуз и официальное приложение роланда — Piano Partner2, благодаря нему планшет воспринимает пианино как Midi-клавиатуру и SimplyPiano считывает нажатия клавиш при обучении. Нравится то, как тяжело и по-настоящему нажимаются клавиши. Для такого начинающего любителя как я — идеальный инструмент, который дает много возможностей для обучения с разных программ
Недостатки:
Изначально слушали с мужем 3 инструмента — yamaha 125, casio 160 и этот роланд. Звучание роланда понравилось больше всего - оно богаче. Но дома все равно если очень сильно прислушаться можно услышать электронный шум перед основным звуком клавиши при нажатии в малой октаве (я только там замечала). Сейчас перестала обращать внимание.
Комментарий:
В итоге все очень нравится - пюпитр норм, блютуз-соединение не отваливается. Купили за 42. Каждый день провожу за ним пару часов с удовольствием :) Дополнение через пару месяцев использования: полет отличный, также с удовольствием занимаюсь на инструменте по паре часов в день, перешла, правда, на приложение Synthesia, также синхронизирую по блютузу.
5 лет назадМосква
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такая, на которой действительно волшебно играется, музыка сама льётся из нее. И покрытие - просто чудо. Даже не смотря на отзвуки нескольких клавиш (см.раздел \"недостатки\") звук замечательный. Я понял это, вчера поиграв на casio privia примерно 4-х летнего возраста. По сравнению с моим roland'ом casio вообще не играет. И это не говоря про резиновую клавиатуру casio (как и на yamaha и kavai схожих моделей).\r\n\r\nЧто касается наушников: действительно, звук может быть тихим. Но только для некоторых моделей наушников. В некоторых звук НЕ тихий. Этот феномен мне непонятен. Я испытывал несколько наушников с одинаковым импедансом и вообще схожих во всем, но громкость звука, действительно, сильно страдала в некоторых их них.\r\n\r\nВЫВОД: дорогие все, особенно родители маленьких музыкантов! Не покупайте дешевые модели casio! Как они выглядят не имеет особого значения. Может быть соблазнительно купить бюджетный casio, но \"никакой\" звук и \"никакая\" клавиатура будут просто отбивать охоту заниматься! 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