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vk
7
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
1) Цена/качество, 2) высокая чуствительность (96 дБ на 1 Вт на 1 м) + высокая мощность (120 Вт каждая колонка) = большая громкость (на грани болевого порога), 3) хорошая детальность, ооочень малые искажения, 4) качество сборки, в общем за такую цену других не менее достойных колонок с 8-дюймовым НЧ-динамиком просто нет.
Недостатки:
1) Органы управления сзади. 2) Неудобно регулировать громкость - есть только рекомендуемый уровень громкости с точной фиксацией, в остальных случаях громкость выставляется по делениям шкалы "на глаз". Но рекомендуемый уровень действительно оптимален. 3)Не совсем нравится, как звучат голоса в некоторых песнях- немного не то. Возможно это из-за того что частота раздела НЧ-ВЧ приходится на 2 кГц. Однако эффект очень мал и заметен только в песнях Ю. Антонова и еще ряда исполнителей. Не исключено, что дело не в колонках, а в звукорежиссерах того же Антонова, которые чего-то не так "намутили".
Комментарий:
Использую в основном для прослушивания музыки HS80M + звуковуха Infrasonic Amon = очень доволен звуком. Тестил бегущим синусом - на слух не обнаружил никаких значительных пиков и провалов в АЧХ - только плавное изменение громкости с частотой в соответствии с кривой слышимости. Особенно рекомендую для прослушивания любителям советской аппаратуры "Вега" (усил. 120-У, АС 25АС-101, 25АС-109-2 и т.д.) - характер звука очень похож, но более детальный и с меньшими искажениями. Низкий бас в HS80M есть. В КАЛонках с тем же или меньшим диаметром диффузора но с "ярко выраженных низким басом" слышен не низкий бас, а его верхние гармоники, возникшие за счет гармонических искажений, которые слышны лучше (см. кривую слышимости) и создают ощущение более громкого баса для слушателей, которые 40 Гц от 80 Гц на слух отличить не могут. А в HS80M искажений в НЧ области сравнительно мало. Бас не гудящий. Сабвуфер к ним не нужен. Для использования в домашней студии подойдут - люди и на советских колонках или на Microlab Solo умудряются работать. При таком уровне качества как у HS80M самым слабым звеном в домашней студии является отделка помещения и место произрастания рук самого звукорежиссера.
12 лет назад
Комментарий 101952556
Виталий К., а для любителей S90 что посоветуете?)))
Виталий К., а для любителей S90 что посоветуете?)))
7
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Главное для меня - атака, поэтому за кристальную чёткость отдельный респект производителю, правда удалось добиться "той самой" лишь при отключении НЧ, т.к. они подъедали картину со СЧ.
Недостатки:
Басс есть, но совершенно не то, на что способен отдельный широкий блин (или саб).
Комментарий:
У меня стоит полный комплект из саба и 80-ых. Уже несколько месяцев балуюсь с разными настройками этой связки и пришёл к выводу, что идеально она зазвучала лишь после среза с мониторов НЧ (хотя до этого, когда ещё НЧ присутствовали мне казалось, что тоже идеально звучит =) может быть когда-нибудь ещё что подкручу...). В обзоре явно виден спад около НЧ и на слух играло не кристально чётко в этом диапазоне, поэтому решил их срезать и компенсировать "потерю" сабом. Пришлось немного повозиться с громкостью и расстановкой (сейчас на сабе - "+2", при "0" на мониторах), но добился отличной сочетаемости, в общем, как предлагает производитель в инструкции (мне в плюс было то, что после среза НЧ можно было не бояться прислонять фазоинвертером к стене, сейчас стоит не далее 10 см, вообще, говорят закрытый ящик звучит лучше, поэтому пробовал запихнуть шапку в фазоинверторы, но появился странный звук, что навело меня на мысль - давление может разрушить монитор). В итоге имею чёткий (бубнящий эффект прошёл после правильной расстановки - поставил между мониторами с ними на линии) мощный басс и ВЧ+СЧ - кристально чёткие. Советую сейчас к приобретению б\у комплект.
9 лет назад, Москва
3
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Цена, качество, для небольшого помещения в ближнем поле великолепны. Минимальные движения EQ по всей полосе от 40 до 20к сразу же ощущаются ухом -- это говорит о чёткой и относительно статичной фазовой картине, выдаваемой мониторами. Точно также слышна чёткость и связность между парой мониторов при игре с позиционированием звука по панораме -- чем идентичнее мониторы между собой и чем чётче сигнал передаётся в плане частотно-фазовых характеристик тем лучше ухом определяется в пространстве виртуальный источник сигнала. Переслушивая знакомые записи, которые запомнил мозг на обычной бытовой акустике, вы сразу заметите то о чём я пишу. =) Это приятное открытие! Переслушал всё из личного плейлиста.
Недостатки:
1. ЧХ, конечно, хороши, но не идеальны. Идеальные мониторы стоят других денег. =) ЧХ заметно меняется при изменении положения ручки громкости сзади на панели управления. На минимумах НЧ нечитаемые, вялые. Использовать следует в положении, выделенном стопором -- +4db (на мой взгляд, с моей звуковухой и комнатой). 2. Светодиоды под значками Ямахи слишком яркие. Иногда приходится залеплять их, т.к. мешают наслаждаться тьмой при прослушивании.
Комментарий:
Купил для дома -- играть на синтах, слушать музыку, сводить треки, делать пре-мастер (наколенный, разумеется, т.к. это не студия). Мониторы полностью соответствуют лейблу "золотая середина между ценой и качеством" для домашней мини-студии.
10 лет назад, Санкт-Петербург
7
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Цена, широкий спектр
Недостатки:
Большой размер, для электронной музыки не хватает низов. Т.е. нужно готовиться, что придётся подкрутить эквалайзер. Фонарики логотипа очень ярко светят.
Комментарий:
Очень хорошие впечатления о мониторах. Для сравнения из KRK VXT 6 и YAMAHA 80 выбрал бы Yamaha, к тому же намного дешевле. Если собираетесь слушать на них музыку в голой квартире, или ставить их на стол, не тратьте зря деньги, вам подойдёт отличная система Microlab Pro 3 или аналогичные.
7 лет назад, Москва
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
звук!!!
Недостатки:
пока не вижу
Комментарий:
вот, что я скажу вам! у меня студия звукозаписи и мне как никому нужны качественные мониторы. вот принесли на пробу hs80m. комната естественно заглушена! стоят рядом event tr8 yamaha hs80m и связка atc sl20 с усилком parasuond 1000( стоит это бу около 100т.р) и что!!! yamaha в общем показывает лучший показатель в звуке! четкий короткий и уверенный низ, верха в норме( думал по верхам будет красочная картина, как любят японцы, а нет!) читал форумы заумных "радиотехников", которые любят поковыряться внутри всяких приборов, пишут типа там дешевые микросхемы стоят на усилителе, хаят фирму ямаха, хз только за что??!! результат я услышал своими ушами! так что респект этим мониторчикам! ставлю еще одну пять!!!!
9 лет назад, Брянск
2
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Качество сборки на высоте - выглядят монолитом, шикарный звук для домашней студии, кинотеатра или ПК, балансный и небалансный входы,удобные настройки практически под любое помещение. При правильной расстановке очень неслабый бас. Вполне уверенно и достоверно справляются с басовыми линиями в треках без использования саба. Стильный дизайн. Ни KRK, ни Tannoy не дотягивают по звуку до Ямах, хоть и превосходят в цене.
Недостатки:
Практически не обнаружено, кроме регулятора громкости на задней панели, но это особенность большинства студийных мониторов.(мультимедийная клавиатура с регулятором громкости или самый простой микшер (как у меня) решают и эту проблему).
Комментарий:
В принципе все уже было сказано здесь: http://www.ixbt.com/proaudio/yamaha-hs80m.shtml Особое внимание обратите на то, что фазоинвертор на задней стенке, потому не размещайте мониторы близко к стене или в углах. В случае отсутствия низких частот при использовании в обычных квартирах без акустической отделки, попробуйте расположить акустику в ином месте.
12 лет назад
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
звук!!! впервые я услышал нормальный звук, а не то месиво что мне предлагали дешевые свены и джениусы. - Бас. Наконец то могу накрутить нормальный бас, который слышно, а не просто под присмотром анализатора крутить. - Верхи. Вот и стала различима разница мп3 и вав. - Картина звука. Идеально слышно, что где и как.
Недостатки:
Ручка громкости на задней панели. ещё есть искажения в звуке, но не знаю, не вызвано ли это звуковой картой или перепадами в электричестве.
Комментарий:
Если думаете взять и сомневаетесь - берите, не пожалеете. Первый раз, услышав, переслушал все свои любимые песни - как заново услышал. Только вот стол покупать придется под них или стойки. Покупая, думал, что они немножко поменьше)
11 лет назад
2
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Очень хорошее соотношение цена/качества Достаточно ровное звучание, по субъективным ощущениям небольшой спад по детализации звучания в районе средних частот. Тембры достаточно верно воспроизводят. До этого пользовался Yamaha HS50 - там был явный спад по низким частотам, здесь этой проблемы не вижу. Достоинства: 1. Адекватная цена 2. Ровное звучание (относительно данной ценовой категории) 3. Достаточно верная передача тембров. 4. Возможность корректировать звучание под конкретные условия комнаты, путем переключения соответствующих регуляторов на задней стороне монитора.
Недостатки:
Явных недостатков по звучанию пока не выявил. Чрезмерная острота в районе высоких частот - лечится переключением тумблера на задней стороне.
Комментарий:
Буду работать на этих мониторах, пока не накоплю на ADAM A7.
12 лет назад
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Модель отлична. В "домашних" условиях не навязывает сабвуфер. При правильной позиции даёт высококачественный звук и, действительное наслаждение.
Недостатки:
Масса (вес) колонок. Но это компенисровано тем, что они активные и дают достаточное "ощущение" звука и вибраций. Нужен прогрев. Даже после нескольких часов чувствуется разница. Звук становиться объемней. Но это больше не недостаток, а необходимость. ПРОГРЕВ НУЖЕН.
Комментарий:
Для ближнего (полочного) мониторинга колоки более чем.
11 лет назад
vk
9
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Мощные, кристальный яркий бас, динамика, ощущение присутствия, адекватная цена + качество воспроизведения
Недостатки:
большие габариты, вес
Комментарий:
до них владел Yamaha MSP5, в которых крайне не устраивали низы. Для квартиры их будет много, но для меломана и для домашней студии лучшего варианта не найти, качают сильно. Причем диапазон воспроизведения от классики до транса - впечатляющий. Возможно я правильно их расставил.
10 лет назад, Москва
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\r\nhttp://www.ixbt.com/proaudio/yamaha-hs80m.shtml\r\nОсобое внимание обратите на то, что фазоинвертор на задней стенке, потому не размещайте мониторы близко к стене или в углах. В случае отсутствия низких частот при использовании в обычных квартирах без акустической отделки, попробуйте расположить акустику в ином месте.","pro":"Качество сборки на высоте - выглядят монолитом, шикарный звук для домашней студии, кинотеатра или ПК, балансный и небалансный входы,удобные настройки практически под любое помещение. При правильной расстановке очень неслабый бас. Вполне уверенно и достоверно справляются с басовыми линиями в треках без использования саба. Стильный дизайн. Ни KRK, ни Tannoy не дотягивают по звуку до Ямах, хоть и превосходят в цене.","contra":"Практически не обнаружено, кроме регулятора громкости на задней панели, но это особенность большинства студийных мониторов.(мультимедийная клавиатура с регулятором громкости или самый простой микшер (как у меня) решают и эту проблему).","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":114,"reject":7,"total":121,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"22764205":{"entity":"review","id":"22764205","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1593378,"userId":148066798,"anonymous":0,"created":1328385942000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Буду работать на этих мониторах, пока не накоплю на ADAM A7.","pro":"Очень хорошее соотношение цена/качества\r\nДостаточно ровное звучание, по субъективным ощущениям небольшой спад по детализации звучания в районе средних частот. Тембры достаточно верно воспроизводят. До этого пользовался Yamaha HS50 - там был явный спад по низким частотам, здесь этой проблемы не вижу.\r\nДостоинства:\r\n1. Адекватная цена\r\n2. Ровное звучание (относительно данной ценовой категории)\r\n3. Достаточно верная передача тембров.\r\n4. Возможность корректировать звучание под конкретные условия комнаты, путем переключения соответствующих регуляторов на задней стороне монитора.","contra":"Явных недостатков по звучанию пока не выявил. Чрезмерная острота в районе высоких частот - лечится переключением тумблера на задней стороне.","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":65,"reject":6,"total":71,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"24223275":{"entity":"review","id":"24223275","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1593378,"userId":61568546,"anonymous":0,"created":1332613144000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Использую в основном для прослушивания музыки HS80M + звуковуха Infrasonic Amon = очень доволен звуком. Тестил бегущим синусом - на слух не обнаружил никаких значительных пиков и провалов в АЧХ - только плавное изменение громкости с частотой в соответствии с кривой слышимости.\r\n\r\nОсобенно рекомендую для прослушивания любителям советской аппаратуры \"Вега\" (усил. 120-У, АС 25АС-101, 25АС-109-2 и т.д.) - характер звука очень похож, но более детальный и с меньшими искажениями.\r\n\r\nНизкий бас в HS80M есть. В КАЛонках с тем же или меньшим диаметром диффузора но с \"ярко выраженных низким басом\" слышен не низкий бас, а его верхние гармоники, возникшие за счет гармонических искажений, которые слышны лучше (см. кривую слышимости) и создают ощущение более громкого баса для слушателей, которые 40 Гц от 80 Гц на слух отличить не могут. А в HS80M искажений в НЧ области сравнительно мало. Бас не гудящий. Сабвуфер к ним не нужен.\r\n\r\nДля использования в домашней студии подойдут - люди и на советских колонках или на Microlab Solo умудряются работать. При таком уровне качества как у HS80M самым слабым звеном в домашней студии является отделка помещения и место произрастания рук самого звукорежиссера.","pro":"1) Цена/качество,\r\n2) высокая чуствительность (96 дБ на 1 Вт на 1 м) + высокая мощность (120 Вт каждая колонка) = большая громкость (на грани болевого порога),\r\n3) хорошая детальность, ооочень малые искажения,\r\n4) качество сборки,\r\nв общем за такую цену других не менее достойных колонок с 8-дюймовым НЧ-динамиком просто нет.","contra":"1) Органы управления сзади.\r\n2) Неудобно регулировать громкость - есть только рекомендуемый уровень громкости с точной фиксацией, в остальных случаях громкость выставляется по делениям шкалы \"на глаз\". Но рекомендуемый уровень действительно оптимален.\r\n3)Не совсем нравится, как звучат голоса в некоторых песнях- немного не то. Возможно это из-за того что частота раздела НЧ-ВЧ приходится на 2 кГц. Однако эффект очень мал и заметен только в песнях Ю. Антонова и еще ряда исполнителей. Не исключено, что дело не в колонках, а в звукорежиссерах того же Антонова, которые чего-то не так \"намутили\".","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":96,"reject":13,"total":109,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"27293936":{"entity":"review","id":"27293936","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1593378,"anonymous":1,"created":1342407045000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Если думаете взять и сомневаетесь - берите, не пожалеете. Первый раз, услышав, переслушал все свои любимые песни - как заново услышал.\r\nТолько вот стол покупать придется под них или стойки. Покупая, думал, что они немножко поменьше)","pro":"звук!!! впервые я услышал нормальный звук, а не то месиво что мне предлагали дешевые свены и джениусы.\r\n- Бас. Наконец то могу накрутить нормальный бас, который слышно, а не просто под присмотром анализатора крутить.\r\n- Верхи. Вот и стала различима разница мп3 и вав. \r\n- Картина звука. Идеально слышно, что где и как.","contra":"Ручка громкости на задней панели.\r\nещё есть искажения в звуке, но не знаю, не вызвано ли это звуковой картой или перепадами в электричестве.","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":60,"reject":12,"total":72,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"36681136":{"entity":"review","id":"36681136","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1593378,"anonymous":1,"created":1365423495000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Для ближнего (полочного) мониторинга колоки более чем.","pro":"Модель отлична. В \"домашних\" условиях не навязывает сабвуфер. При правильной позиции даёт высококачественный звук и, действительное наслаждение.","contra":"Масса (вес) колонок. Но это компенисровано тем, что они активные и дают достаточное \"ощущение\" звука и вибраций. Нужен прогрев. Даже после нескольких часов чувствуется разница. Звук становиться объемней. Но это больше не недостаток, а необходимость. ПРОГРЕВ НУЖЕН.","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":21,"reject":9,"total":30,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"38889243":{"entity":"review","id":"38889243","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1593378,"userId":173748875,"anonymous":0,"created":1372754725000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"до них владел Yamaha MSP5, в которых крайне не устраивали низы.\r\nДля квартиры их будет много, но для меломана и для домашней студии лучшего варианта не найти, качают сильно. Причем диапазон воспроизведения от классики до транса - впечатляющий. Возможно я правильно их расставил.","pro":"Мощные, кристальный яркий бас, динамика, ощущение присутствия, адекватная цена + качество воспроизведения","contra":"большие габариты, вес","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":26,"reject":4,"total":30,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"46417855":{"entity":"review","id":"46417855","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":1593378,"userId":235378520,"anonymous":0,"created":1395918365000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Купил для дома -- играть на синтах, слушать музыку, сводить треки, делать пре-мастер (наколенный, разумеется, т.к. это не студия). Мониторы полностью соответствуют лейблу \"золотая середина между ценой и качеством\" для домашней мини-студии.","pro":"Цена, качество, для небольшого помещения в ближнем поле великолепны. Минимальные движения EQ по всей полосе от 40 до 20к сразу же ощущаются ухом -- это говорит о чёткой и относительно статичной фазовой картине, выдаваемой мониторами. Точно также слышна чёткость и связность между парой мониторов при игре с позиционированием звука по панораме -- чем идентичнее мониторы между собой и чем чётче сигнал передаётся в плане частотно-фазовых характеристик тем лучше ухом определяется в пространстве виртуальный источник сигнала. Переслушивая знакомые записи, которые запомнил мозг на обычной бытовой акустике, вы сразу заметите то о чём я пишу. =) Это приятное открытие! Переслушал всё из личного плейлиста.","contra":"1. ЧХ, конечно, хороши, но не идеальны. Идеальные мониторы стоят других денег. =) ЧХ заметно меняется при изменении положения ручки громкости сзади на панели управления. На минимумах НЧ нечитаемые, вялые. Использовать следует в положении, выделенном стопором -- +4db (на мой взгляд, с моей звуковухой и комнатой).\r\n2. 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