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Ну в первую очередь естественно звук! Внешний вид тоже , Они прекрасны ! Моя первая акустика в белом цвете , буквально год назад я бы не поверил что у меня будет акустика Белого цвета . Качество сборки . Подобно в комментарий .
Недостатки:
Цена !!! Ну 150 перебор для них , 🤷🏻♂️. Резонанс/призвуки на большой громкости в порте фазоинвертора . Подробности в комментарий .
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Акустика хорошая , есть с чем сравнить последние две до них это Polk audio rti a 7 , magnat signature 903 . Возникла необходимость сменить напольники на полочники , выбирал между KEF R3 , klipsh rp600 , wharfefale evo, 4.3 magnat signature 903 . Polk audio lsim 703, Monitor audio silver 100 , выбрал магнаты , они оказались очень детальными , очень легкими , очень подробными и очень музыкальными , казалось бы идеальная акустика , но ! После масштабных и напористых полков мне не хватало атаки ! С магнатами я заново начал слушать музыку и выслушиваться , раскрылись детали которых я раньше не слышал . Я даже их подключил Напрямую к ресиверу rx-a2080 (убрал усилитель a-s1100 ) настолько они лёгкие за счёт своей высокой чувствительности, но в играх и в кино не хватало напористости , они прекрасно отыгрывают Паганини , но когда включаешь lamb of god их Мягкость подводит их . В общем остались на выбор Polk audio lsim 704 и KEF R3 , полков уже нет в магазинах , на авито продевали их за 100 и отдавали за 80 . Хорошие колонки (слушал) не стоят они этих денег . Послушал я KEF R3 и тут у меня эмоции !!! Купил я их по акции/промокод за 115 . В общем у них есть характер !! Напористость ! Достаточно подробные и детальные , но не яркие !!! Сцена , масштаб , бас тоже есть !!!! Но мне пришлось подключить опять к a-s1100. ресивер (хоть и топовый) не справился с ними ! Не раскрыл их ! Им нужен ток , и только тогда они выдают жир ! Но думаю и мой усилитель для них слабоват , на прослушивании он был подключён к Hegel , с ним они чувствовали себя хорошо . Возможно в будущем появятся у меня rotel rb1580 . Вот у там достаточно тока . Что касается недостатков , считаю ценник в районе 90-100 к адекватный за эти колонки . И ещё очень неприятно удивил меня нюанс , на большой Громкости фазоинвертор даёт серьёзные призвуки , в прорезиненной области , именно там где их не должно быть , так как прорезиненная часть задумывалась как панацея от призвуков . В целом я доволен .
Для R3 желательно класс D, после недели прослушивания, Yamaxa была заменена на Primare I15. Попробуйте послушать на Hegel или Primare, все сомнения отпадут разом.....
Для R3 желательно класс D, после недели прослушивания, Yamaxa была заменена на Primare I15. Попробуйте послушать на Hegel или Primare, все сомнения отпадут разом.....
ТОЧНОСТЬ, ОБЪЕМНОСТЬ, ДЕТАЛЬНОСТЬ. Нет такого ,что играет нижняя часть середины, а верхняя не играет, или наоборот. Очень детальные. Например, если в одних колонках, даже наушниках слышен какой-то гитарный пассаж, соло, то тут его можно будет услышать из нескольких уровней.
Много музыки просто приятно слушать и не хочется выключать вообще.
Бас - как в описании АЧХ в спецификацияи. После 58Гц спад на 6Гц. В комнате звучит сильнее, но это нормально. Ни больше, ни меньше.
Так же, если слушать до этого другие колонки А, где есть хорошая фишка, и колонки Б, где другая фишка, то вероятно, KEF объединит их. Хотя не везде.
Так же эти колонки умеют играть тихо!
Слушаю с Purifi EigenTakt (после этого усилка появился объем)
Много музыки слушаю, которую раньше не слушал или слушал, но редко.
Да, да, очень точный мидбасс, где они работают и голография этого баса. И середина, прям детальная, не кропотливая, чтобы мучить.а именно живая, детальная, объемная.
Резюмирую: машина для удовольствия, но требуют хорошего тракта и банально размещения.
P.S. R3 Meta ещё лучше. Звучит открытее на высоких. И слушаю последнюю дома.
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А хрен уже знает)) Расположил не 40см от стены, а 70. И уже другой разговор. Лучше когда бас натуральный, а не форсированный.
Комментарий:
Оптимальным для них считаю помещение площадью типа 16-20м2. Ну если 20, то можно саб добавить или 2. Сам слушаю в меньшей площади на уровне громкости 70-76 дб с пиками 80дб. Но пространство ограничено.
В целом, им очень сложно найти конкурента. Расположил их 40 см от стены.
ДОБАВЛЕНО! Без измерений говорить вообще не о чем.
Из конкурентов я бы глянул активные АС
Резюмирую: машина для удовольствия, но требуют хорошего тракта и банально размещения. Кайф.
Приобретены KEF R3 на замену Dali Opticon 2, усилитель Yamaxa RN-602.
После подключения R3, как я уже читал отзыв про KEF Q350 - "будто на акустику накинули одеяло" - высоких нет. Постоянно выкрученный темброблок ВЧ на максимум и чувство сожаления за потраченные деньги.
Первый шаг - замена кабеля для ВЧ на медный с серебрением - помогло не особо.
Следующий шаг - замена усилителя на Primare I15 Prisma, стало лучше по ВЧ, бас изменился значительно - стал быстрее, но звучание все равно не было идеальным для меня....
И вот в один прекрасный момент я понимаю, что звук изменился и стал цельным, появились высокие частоты, объем, сцена расширилась, где можно понять положение инструментов при записи. Я был в щенячьем восторге.
Эмпирическим путем выяснилось, что надо прогреть акустику не менее 100 часов, о чем производитель нигде не упоминает.
Эксперимент был подтверждён еще раз, после замены R3 белые на R3 черный лак.
После всех экспериментов остался один кабель QED X-Tube XT400, без использования штатных перемычек, с ним хрустальный верх и достаточно объемный бас.
Нюанс про виброразвязку - стояли на подставке с шипами + штатные резиновые прокладки на корпусе. Между шипами и мебельной тумбой были пластиковые пластины, чтобы сохранить мебель.
Приобрел металлические подставки под шипы и снизу на них, наклеил войлок. Откуда взялось столько баса - не понятно..... Звук напольных АС.
Про голографию - не стоит расставлять эту акустику по принципу треугольника, где слушатель находится на одной из вершин. Направленность динамиков достаточно широкая и их можно ставить практически параллельно друг другу, тем самым можно добиться очень широкой сцены и эффекта присутствия музыкантов.
Дизайн - плачь Ярославны, 3 балла из 5. На сколько очаровательно выглядит серия R 300, R500, на столько же ужасно выглядит R3. Хоть какое-нибудь колечко алюминиевое вокруг динамиков, прямо просится, а этот ужасный рояльный лак.......
Но за звук можно все простить.......
Ребята, как нет высоких? Не понимаю, честно.
усилитель Rotel 1592 + KEF R3.
темброблок выключен. НЧ и ВЧ по нулям.
Высоких за глаза, на некоторых пластинках даже много.
Вот НЧ на них глубоких не будет, на то они и полочники. Тут выручает сабвуфер REL.
Ребята, как нет высоких? Не понимаю, честно.
усилитель Rotel 1592 + KEF R3.
темброблок выключен. НЧ и ВЧ по нулям.
Высоких за глаза, на некоторых пластинках даже много.
Вот НЧ на них глубоких не будет, на то они и полочники. Тут выручает сабвуфер REL.
Звук очень понравился в салоне, где слушал их. Сразу принял решение о покупке. Слушал в связке с примаре, на ней и остановился. не верю в прогрев и кабели, но смена кабеля и наработка по времени действительно меняют звук в лучшую сторону. в итоге сборка - Primare i25 усь, кабели tchernov classic mk2 Как по мне - шикарно играет, всего хватает.
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Прошлый мой комплект - wharfedale evo2 30, 10, центр. методом проб и ошибок, менял бюджетные ресиверы и усилители, остановился на ресивере пионер lx58 и жил с этим лет 10. Все устраивало, но всегда жил с тем, что где-то что-то иногда слушал и звук радовал сильнее, чем мой) моей системе не хватало сочности и широты хайфайной. присмотрелся к kef r3 в связке с примаре, купил усилок, воткнул в него варфы и задергался глаз - думал будет день и ночь, а нет, не играли они с примаре. Приехали р3 - вот она связочка. Слабость ресивер проявил как раз на кефах, а с усилителем они спелись идеально на мой вкус. Хегели не слушал, может глупость, но не лежит у меня к ним душа внешне и тактильно, хотя все их боготворят, в том числе с Кеф. остановился на примаре. Очень доволен.
Разница между старой и новой системами - дрова и акустика) настолько впечатлил новый комплект.
Александр Фионичев, очень неоднозначный отзыв, особенно рассуждая о технике которую даже не слушали, и как только на фото увидено было, что R3 размещены почти в плотную к стене, все стало ясно о отзыве, думаю и всем тоже)))
Александр Фионичев, очень неоднозначный отзыв, особенно рассуждая о технике которую даже не слушали, и как только на фото увидено было, что R3 размещены почти в плотную к стене, все стало ясно о отзыве, думаю и всем тоже)))
3 полосы
Коаксиальный динамик
Чистота звучания
Дизайн (такие динамики не хочется прятать за грилями)
Недостатки:
За эти деньги их просто нет
Комментарий:
Честный звук. Укажет на все недостатки усилителя и качества записи дорожки.
У меня играет в связке с предусилителем rotel rc-1572mk2 и мощником rb-1552mk2. Потрясающая связка, кристальная чистота звучания и глубина баса.
Для комнаты 20м2, больше и не нужно.
Даёт звук, гораздо больше своей стоимости, да и не уверен,что существует лучше акустика в этом ценовом сегменте.
Все отлично. Думал arcam sa 20 не споется, но нет играет отлично. На много интересней моих Q 500 от KEF. Основное что такая связка по моим ушам. Я доволен.
Играют круто и выше своей цены. Качество исполнения на высший бал, корпус покрыт лаком, все выполнено безупречно.
Недостатки:
Недостатков нет.
Комментарий:
Впервые послушал их в SPL случайно, пришёл послушать REL T9i c KEF LS50 Wireless. В итоге завис на них и часа 2 слушал R3, заодно сравнил их с LS50. Колонки данные купил по скидке и даже без скидки они стоят каждой вложеной копейки. Связка с Hegel H190, спелись так что чувство что они созданы друг для друга. Даже в небольшой комнате на расстоянии 30 см от стены бас четкий и нет гудения, на тихой громкости все частоты проработаны, чувство что сложной музыки для них нет и они все раскладывают как по полочкам, бас четкий и быстрый и не забивает остальные частоты. Короче рекомендую и колонки одни из лучших в своей ценовой категории. Слушал ещё KEF Reference 1 за 990 тыс и R3 в плане звука очень легко с ними спутать.
Идеальная акустическая система и с точки зрения внешних параметров, и с точки зрения технических моментов! 3-х полосная. Динамический тип излучателя.
Недостатки:
Нет
Комментарий:
Колонки отлично собраны, только из высококачественных материалов, поэтому они достаточно тяжёлые ( 13 кг ).
Звук - прекрасный! Если слушать инструментальную музыку, то можно услышать чётко каждый инструмент.. никакой грязи. При том, что никакой дополнительной подоготовки в комнате с домашним кинотеатром, у меня нет.
Полностью согласен по поводу инструментальной музыки, но кто слушает не только инструментальную, без прослушивания брать не советую, баса очень много, в небольшом помещении, звучат как напольники.
Полностью согласен по поводу инструментальной музыки, но кто слушает не только инструментальную, без прослушивания брать не советую, баса очень много, в небольшом помещении, звучат как напольники.
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