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Процессор AMD Ryzen 7 2700X AM4,  8 x 3700 МГц
Процессор AMD Ryzen 7 2700X AM4, 8 x 3700 МГц, OEM

Цена с картой Яндекс Пэй:12 276

Скидка: 12%
–12 %
Вместо: 12 40013 900
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В играх при загрузке всех ядер и потоков с кулером Xilence m403 на материнской плате Asrock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 работает на частоте 3933 – 3418 Гц, иногда переходя отметку в 3500 МГц, то есть работает около теоретического максимума возможностей для стока. В играх с 2x8 Гб dual rank DDR4 оперативной памятью в режиме 3000 МГц с таймингами 15-17-17-35 и разрешении Full HD, в Assassins Creed Odyssey процессор загружен в бенчмарке на 45% в среднем, во время непосредственной игры загруженность обычно около 35%. В бенчмарке Tom Clancy’s The Division 2 загруженность на уровне 30-35%. Немного побегал в Black Desert Remastered, там была самая большая загруженность, что я видел, что неудивительно для mmo, в зависимости от количества объектов и места пребывания загруженность доходила до 75% в городе, и падала до 25% там, где никого нет, стоит заметить, что игра масштабировалась до 2715x1527. По fps сложно что-то определенное сказать, так как у меня мощная видеокарта и 100+ fps в играх с признаками оптимизации все равно есть, в AC Odyssey около 68 со стабильным фреймтаймом.
Недостатки:
Зависимость от характеристик оперативной памяти, не самая высокая частота и производительность на ядро, самому свежему i7 конечно проигрывает, но и стоит намного дешевле.
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В простое процессор работает на частоте 1,5 ГГц. Учитывая, что сопоставимый(?) по цене процессор intel core i5 9600/K имеет всего 6 потоков, даже не смотря на более высокую производительность на ядро, 6 потоков для более свежих игр и mmo уже маловато и процессор intel может быть загружен полностью, при этом его предшественника i5 8600/K уже сейчас не хватает в некоторых играх (почему вдруг 6 высокопроизводительных потоков перестало хватать при стабильно низкой производительности консолей - это уже другой вопрос), поэтому, даже не смотря на возможно более низкий fps, Ryzen 7 2700 – это универсальное решение за свою цену, позволяющее получать не самые выдающиеся, но зато более стабильные результаты в играх, сейчас его нередко можно взять по скидке, что я и сделал, и он имеет запас на будущее, так как загрузка не самая высокая даже в неоптимизированных проектах. Также ничего не мешает разогнать как оперативную память, так и сам процессор, и получить производительность практически на уровне модели 2700x, но тогда процессор будет ощутимо сильнее греться, а для меня это было важно. Возлагаю надежду на directx 12 и vulkan, которые показывают прирост производительности на устаревших процессорах на порядок (от 10,5 раз быстрее), однако на практике было бы неплохо получить прирост хотя бы на 50%, учитывая нежелание разработчиков и издателей оптимизировать игры.
4 года назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Относительно дешевый, достаточно производительный процессор. Оптимум для тех кто хочет и поиграть и поработать. Многопоточность дает возможность хорошо работать с рабочим ПО, в то же время процессор пригоден и для топовых игр.
Недостатки:
Обнаружил температурные скачки порядка 10 градусов раз в несколько секунд в простое. Это приводило к тому что вентилятор периодически взвывал а потом успокаивался. Долго пытался выяснить в чем же проблема, пока не затестил точно такой же процессор на ПК у товарища, и обычный 2700 на работе - там те же самые температурные скачки. Сделал вывод что это нормальная особенность работы данных процессоров при включенном Precision Boost Overdrive (кратковременное увеличение мощности за счет заброса частот до 4100-4200, причем на всех ядрах одновременно). Почему функция работает в простое - я так и не понял, поддержка АМД отвечала в штатах раз в 3-4 дня и очень неохотно, ничем не помогла. Отключать PBO не рекомендую - температурные волны у вас пропадут, но максимальная частота ограничится постоянными 3700, что скажется на общей производительности системы (исходя из бенчмарков весьма ощутимо страдают почти все компоненты, включая память, видеокарту, ССД). Ограничивать максимальное значение питания процессора 99% в плане электропитания тем более не советую, в этом случае частоты ограничиваются 3200 МГц на каждом ядре. Итого: Проблемы взывания вентилятора решил простым повышением оборотов до 60% до температуры 55 град., дальше плавная кривая вплоть до 100% оборотов при температуре 80 град. Кривую производительности вентилятора строил в UEFI материнки ASRock - там есть функция FANtastic Tuning. Может есть еще способы, не искал. Вентилятор стал работать пусть и немного громче, но равномерно. А скачки температуры просто принял как особенность и забил. Отмечу что проблема проявляется далеко не у всех, потому как многие не смотрят температуру процессора до тех пор пока куллер не начнет вести себя странно, а начнет он или нет зависит от материнки и собственно системы охлаждения. У меня Thermaltake frio silent 12 c TDP 150W.
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Если закрыть глаза на особенность с температурными скачками, и учитывая что в целом все работает стабильно и весьма быстро - отличный проц, а главное доступный.
4 года назадМосква
Комментарий 102621437
америку тож открыл. температурные скачки это стандартное явление на ам4, дело вовсе не в пбо
америку тож открыл. температурные скачки это стандартное явление на ам4, дело вовсе не в пбо
Комментарий 102674455
ну как бы это решается простым андервольтингом. Я например просто зафиксировал частоту на 4ghz и напряжение поставил 1.25v и скачки подобные исчезли
ну как бы это решается простым андервольтингом. Я например просто зафиксировал частоту на 4ghz и напряжение поставил 1.25v и скачки подобные исчезли
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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Температура, тепловыделение, потребление: Очень низкая температура в простое и под нагрузкой, учитывая что охлаждение стоит ~за 1500 руб. От ~ 30 до 60 градусов, при использовании домашних нужд, браузер, видео, аудио, игры. ( И главное что всем этим пользуешься одновременно практически) Цена: покупал за 18 000 руб (OEM). Производительность: Радует что можно купить такой процессор и долго не думать ни о чем, главное что вся производительность не только радует глаз, но и душу, в некоторых задачах производительность радует, в некоторых вообще удивляет мощностью. Гибкая настройка: Разблокированный множитель, вкл/отк ядер. Сообразительным пользователям даст свои преимущества. Будущее: Одно из важнейших моментов что можно купить процессор и не думать, скорее всего об обновлении 5-10 лет.
Недостатки:
Разгон: Не могу сказать что это недостаток, но от AMD ждешь большего. Все таки хотелось бы более высокие частоты при разгоне со средними комплектующими. ОЗУ: данная проблема была актуальная после покупки не большое время >>>(((Не очень то и легко обычным пользователям подружить работу ОЗУ, не все могут запускаться легко на заявленных частотах. Моя из коробки идет 3000 Mhz - но пока запустилась на 2800 только. Хотя долгих и мучительных попыток на настройку я не делал. ))) Данная проблема решилась позже >>> Спустя время 2-3 месяца появилось новое обновление BIOS, установив его ОЗУ работает на 3000 без проблем, так же без проблем удачно разогналось до 3200 - теперь можно спать спокойно и не думать более об ОЗУ. Так что проблемы с ОЗУ как и ожидалось решаются производителями материнских план обновлением BIOS. ( Теперь данный пункт нельзя назвать недостатком - по сути это теперь маленький нюанс)
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AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (OEM) Лично меня AMD радует что можно взять проц с заделом на будущее, так же есть хороший ассортимент на совместимые материнские платы, иногда даже лучший чипсет можно купить. Мое главное требование: То что проц выдает производительность во всех задачах на уровне "отлично", мне не важны игры на "идеально" и некоторые задачи на удовлетворительно. Лучше иметь все на отлично, нежели что-то на хуже и что-то на лучше.
4 года назадМахачкала
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Всегда у меня был AMD. Сначала Дюрон, потом Атлон и Фен 1, потом FX 8350 и вот сейчас Ryzen'ы, сначала 1600x, затем 2700x. Платформа Zen дала классный простор для компании, они проделали реально большую работу и выпустили отличный продукт. В моих системах всегда были МП Asus топового сегмена, потому что они позволяют гнать процессоры, когда производительности не хватает, и так было до 2700x, потому что теперь максимальная производительность под рукой всегда, когда это нужно. Динамическая частота держится на уровне 4100 постоянно, иногда падая до 2790, а иногда поднимаясь до 4350. Главное: охлаждение и память. Из охлаждения стоит Corsair H115i Pro RGB, память Corsair RGB CMW16GX4M2K4000C19. Отзыв про охлаждение можно почитать в моих отзывах (чтобы оно работало как надо пришлось заменить кулеры и термопасту), память же не запустилась на частоте 4000 и работает на частоте 3666. Основная претензия к температурному режиму: в стресстестах поднималась до 90 градусов, на штатном охлаждении не держал частоты выше 4000. После установки на воду и ее модернизации, температуры в 20 минутных тестах не выше 76 градусов, авторазгон приобрел нормальные 4,3 ГГц. Вся суть в том, что в пике он завышает вольтаж достаточно сильно, что приводит к резкому росту температур ядер. Можно, конечно, покопаться и зафиксировать напряжение, но, вероятно, лень. В целом, я очень доволен и рад поддержать финансово компанию, которая в тяжелых условиях нашла возможность выкатить достойный продукт не только для энтузиастов, но и для рядовых пользователей по (ВАЖНО!) приемлемым ценам.
4 года назадМосква
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Низкая цена, высокотехнологичный продукт, стокового кулера хватит с запасом обычному пользователю.
Недостатки:
Нежные контакты, требователен к материнской плате и картам памяти.
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Будущее в наших руках ) 8 ядер и 16 потоков, вспомнился мой первый смартфон с поддержкой 3G, которого еще не было в России на тот момент. На стоковых настройках запускается на 3.2ГГц, что маловато для современных игр. Не слушайте продажных обзорщиков и тестеров, твердящих что "боксовый кулер в урну, покупаем китайское что-то с 3-мя омеднёнными латуневыми теплоотводами..." Бред! Кулер превосходен, и его хватит до 3.8 - 3.9ГГц. А выше мы быстро упремся в потолок, раскочегарив проц за 100С и получив прибавку производительности ещё процентов 5. Я выставил частоту на отметку 3.8ГГц, и температура поднималась выше 40С только в стресс тестах. Без материнской платы с хорошим питанием сокета и чипсетом не проще B450, и (минимум!) парой карт памяти с заявленой частотой 3ГГц вы не увидите, на что способен этот процессор. В моей системе на этом камне видеокарта GTX 1660super ценой в 300$ - слабое звено! Установка процессора в сокет материнки требует хирургической, или хотя бы ювелирной, аккуратности. Я насмотрелся в сети страшилок о погнутых контактах и выгоревших гнездах, поэтому вставлял проц даже не под собственным весом, а еще и замедлял подушечками пальцев, не давая упасть слишком быстро. Потом, с замиранием сердца, пошевелил, убедился что он встал на место, и придавил глубже. Если вы работаете каменщиком, и во время укладки кирпича прораб кричит: "Нежнее, Вася!", то даже не пытайтесь! xD Надеюсь что процессор проработает долго и счастливо, и мне не придется дополнять этот отзыв! Не сомневайтесь, берите этот процессор, если жаба душит купить R5 3600!
4 года назадВолжский
Комментарий 103105719
Какой бред про установку в сокет. Не нужно бросать процессор, и не нужно давить. Он спокойно входит в сокет
Какой бред про установку в сокет. Не нужно бросать процессор, и не нужно давить. Он спокойно входит в сокет
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Да, да, это будет очередной отзыв-сравнение амд vs интел. Потому что о самом камне без этого сравнения сказать можно мало. Лишь только что отличная производительность и соответствие характеристикам. Продукт года 2018 однозначно. Итак. По сравнению с i7 8700 проц: Лучше в синтетике Быстрее в реальных многопоточных задачах (рендеринг, архивация, стриминг) Меньше греется Дешевле в полтора раза чем i7 8700 и в два раза чем i7 8700k Есть припой Есть разгон у всех версий Не обязательно покупать топовую материнку, чтобы гнать (ну это плюс косвенный, скорее тут вопросы к материнкам) + поддерживается память 3200 мгц не только на топовых матерях
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Минус по сути только один - на 10-15% в среднем ниже FPS в большинстве игр. Однако тут не все так однозначно. Показатель FPS зависит не только от процессора, и если вы выбираете проц 8700 на Н или В чипсете матери, то ваша максимальная частота памяти - 2666 мгц. Здесь же можете смело ставить 3200 мгц. В итоге FPS будет не сильно меньше, а может и больше. Отмечу, что в некоторых играх FPS будет одинаковый, так как зависит и от оптимизации самой игры. Ну и конечно это все актуально, только если вы геймер.
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Если у вас есть мозг - то проц однозначно рекомендуется к употреблению. На сегодняшний день компания амд показывает реальное стремительное развитие и отличные достижения, за что получает множество наград. А компания интел топчится на месте с кучей одинаковых камней с примерно одинаковыми показателями и одинаковыми косяками по сильно завышенным ценам, заставляя юзеров каждую новую линейку процов менять материнки, заставляя отдельно платить за возможность разгона и за гипертридинг. Интел выезжает лишь за счет тех людей, которые с пеной у рта слепо орут за свои сомнительные убеждения помня времена, когда слово АМД значило заниженную производительность и чрезмерный нагрев. А так же за счет компаний и своих корпоративных клиентов, которые не приемлят эксперименты, не хотят разбираться в новом, трудно привыкают и помнят, что АМД это нечто "послабее, подешевле". Но если быть реалистом, то как мы видим, конкуренция на рынке идет на пользу покупателю, рождает новые идеи и мотивирует всех производителей стать лучше. Ждем чем ответит интел дальше.
5 лет назадМытищи
Комментарий 102383283
Никита Н., ещё б знать на какой проц отзыв )
Никита Н., ещё б знать на какой проц отзыв )
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не 10-15,а все 20-30 процентов
не 10-15,а все 20-30 процентов
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Производительность/цена. После прочтения мануалов и передопачивания тонн форумов - настроил оптимальное энергопотребление. Память есть две по 16-ть. По профилю 2933Mz. Производительность кажется заоблачной. Одновременный запуск двух игр, одна из которых очень тяжелая даже по современным меркам. Браузер 20-ть вкладок. Музыка, касперскрй и еще несколькр приложений - смог загрузить процессор на 60-70℅. Я не знаю, но для меня это уже что-то невероятное.
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Требует настройки биоса. Требует отличный кулер. Дорогую память. Поставил и забыл это не про него. По умолчанию процессор сам себя гонит благодаря вшитому ИИ. Причем делает это не правильно на многих материнских платах, потому как, на них все тормоза сняты. Он тупо может замучить БП вентиляторы системы и ваши нервы, если у него есть запас по температурам охлаждения. Причем на ютубе полно обзоров как его еще разогнать, но очень мало как его оптимизировать на умеренное энергопотребоение, а вентиляторы на шумовыделение. Настройки win10 потребления работают с ним через задний проход.
2 года назадЭнгельс
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Многопоток, хорошие частоты, большой кэш, цена/качество, совместимость.
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Горячий, если рендерить, то точно нужна водянка или топовая воздушка уровня be quiet! или noctua. Вечная проблема с оперативкой. Планки Crucial Ballistix Elite BLE4G4D32AEEA на чипах samsung E-Die работают стабильно только на 2933mhz. Учтите, что если вы будете использовать его 24/7 более 3-х лет, то он обязательно прижарится к подошве охлаждения, старый 1500Х после 4х лет использования в рабочей станции, отстегнулся вместе охладом (старое амд крепление на 2х застёжках) и потом я его отковыривал феном и пластиковой картой (термопаста arctic silver). Ножки при этом не погнулись, сокет на оторвался, а сама скоба сокета осталась в закрытом положении.
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Успел купить в августе 2020 за 11.000руб, чему несказанно рад. За свои деньги для работы это лучший процессор. Вставил в старую материнку на чипсете Asus rogstrix b350-gaming-F, всё работает корректно. Берёт заявленные частоты, VRM греется до 85C, но это норма. Кулер Scythe Grand Kama Cross держит на уровне 80C после 5 часов стресса.
3 года назадМосква
Комментарий 103975126
повезло что сокет и ножки не сломал когда проц вытаскивал! вообще надо не тянуть со всей дури
повезло что сокет и ножки не сломал когда проц вытаскивал! вообще надо не тянуть со всей дури
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Недорогой 8-ми ядерник, в свое время брал за 13к сейчас смотрю подоражал, значить не ошибся с выбором. Гонится не плохо взял 4.2Мгц на все ядра при 1.3В, видимо повезло с экземпляром. Разгонял через Ryzen master, можно и через Биос, но у меня мат. плата от Гиги, надеюсь многие меня поймут)
Недостатки:
При стандартных настройках работает с кратковременым скачком напряжения до 1.5В, что ведёт к резкому скачку температуры, поэтому температура постоянно прыгает даже в простое. При нагрузке на все ядра частота 3.7Мгц. В разгоне требует хорошое охлаждение TDP может улетать за 120 ватт
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Купил почти год назад и выбор стоял между 3600 после просмотров тестов проигрыш в играх оказался не очень существеным, зато в многопотоке разница заметная, так что этот проц годится и для рабочих задач. После разгона до 4.2 Мгц температура стала держаться стабильнее в простое 36-45, в играх около 50-60, в стресс-тестах 70. Для этого камушка в разгоне нужна хорошая мат. плата с нормальным количеством фаз питания иначе зона VRM может достигать приличных температур. Так же нужен хороший башенный куллер. Ну и ОЗУ не менее 3200 МГц для процессоров АМД это очень важный параметр.
3 года назадМосква
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Всегда у меня был AMD. Сначала Дюрон, потом Атлон и Фен 1, потом FX 8350 и вот сейчас Ryzen'ы, сначала 1600x, затем 2700x. Платформа Zen дала классный простор для компании, они проделали реально большую работу и выпустили отличный продукт. В моих системах всегда были МП Asus топового сегмена, потому что они позволяют гнать процессоры, когда производительности не хватает, и так было до 2700x, потому что теперь максимальная производительность под рукой всегда, когда это нужно. Динамическая частота держится на уровне 4100 постоянно, иногда падая до 2790, а иногда поднимаясь до 4350. Главное: охлаждение и память. Из охлаждения стоит Corsair H115i Pro RGB, память Corsair RGB CMW16GX4M2K4000C19. Отзыв про охлаждение можно почитать в моих отзывах (чтобы оно работало как надо пришлось заменить кулеры и термопасту), память же не запустилась на частоте 4000 и работает на частоте 3666. Основная претензия к температурному режиму: в стресстестах поднималась до 90 градусов, на штатном охлаждении не держал частоты выше 4000. После установки на воду и ее модернизации, температуры в 20 минутных тестах не выше 76 градусов, авторазгон приобрел нормальные 4,3 ГГц. Вся суть в том, что в пике он завышает вольтаж достаточно сильно, что приводит к резкому росту температур ядер. Можно, конечно, покопаться и зафиксировать напряжение, но, вероятно, лень. В целом, я очень доволен и рад поддержать финансово компанию, которая в тяжелых условиях нашла возможность выкатить достойный продукт не только для энтузиастов, но и для рядовых пользователей по (ВАЖНО!) приемлемым ценам.
5 лет назадПыхтино
Комментарий 101788611
Дима, скажи, а что 2700х не понравился??? Или этот Е также хорош только холоднее???
Дима, скажи, а что 2700х не понравился??? Или этот Е также хорош только холоднее???
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