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Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Отличное качество фотографий. Удивляют комментарии людей, которые не разобравшись ругают хорошую камеру. Ниже я поясню с чем связана якобы "проблема огромного зерна". Компактность, водонепроницаемость, ударопрочность. Отличный дизайн. Очень удобное и логичное русское меню. Огромное количество режимов и наворотов, при этом все это хозяйство организовано в меню просто и понятно. Отдельно отмечу очень интересный режим панорамы, при этом снимки (3 кадра) склеивает сам процессор камеры и склеивает весьма достойно. Очень порадовал своеобразный режим панорамы-широкоугольника - суть его в том, что можно делать два вертикальных кадра, которые камера сама склеивает как панораму а потом разворачивает в горизонтальный кадр который выглядит как кадр снятый суперширокоугольником примерно 17-19мм. Это незаменимая вещь для съемки интерьеров.
Недостатки:
Кнопки управления показались мелковатыми. И самый главный недостаток камеры, заявленной как камера для туризма и спорта - работа не от стандартных АА аккамуляторов и батареек, а от оригинального аккамулятора. Наверное в Японии, Европе и Америке в национальных парках розетка торчит из каждого камня и куста, но вот в остальном мире это слава Богу пока не так. Если бы камера могла работать от батареек она была бы пригодна для длительных походов и действительно экстремальных мероприятий, в этом случае я бы назвал аппарат идеальным, но увы, это не так.
Комментарий:
К вопросу о "ужасном качестве снимков". Так как камера предназначена для спорта, т.е. для съемки максимально динамичных сюжетов то производители заложили в процессор камеры такой логический ход: в режиме АВТО в любых условиях отрабатывать максимально короткие выдержки дабы движущиеся объекты снятые к тому же и движущимся фотографом не были смазанными. Для достижения этого камера в режимее АВТО сразу выставляет ОГРОМНЫЕ значения светочуствительности (800 - 3600 ASA)и естественно на снимках вылезает заметное зерно. Такой подход оправдан для съемок в реально неблагоприятных условиях. В обычной повседневной жизни (если вы не скачете на сноуборде по темному склону) надо просто перейти в ручной режим и выставить низкие значения светочувствительности и радоваться отличным фотографиям. Кстати шум матрицы у камеры на высоких значениях ASA не выше, чем у других аппаратов (я сравнивал со своими двумя компактами Canon). В общем я бы сказал, что это отличная камера, а если бы производители додумались предусмотреть батареи типа АА была бы вообще идеальной. Подробный тест можно почитать здесь http://www.mega-foto.ru/articles/22552/
14 лет назад
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Водонепроницаемый, противоударный.
Недостатки:
Больше месяца присматривался к это модели, в большинстве тестов выкладывались неплохие резельтаты, но при этом редкие отзывы пользователей говорили об обратном, решил подождать пока появится в крупном гипермаркете техники где можно будет взять в руки и спокойно пощелкать. Дождался, вчера минут двадцать издевался над ней. Результат мягко говоря разочаровал. я конечно понимаю, что это мыльница, но уже на ISO400 шумов очень много, а дальше вообще их становится больше чем самого снимка. Режим макро и супермакро включаются действительно автоматически как и пишут но снимки ((((( ради прикола снял тут же с такого же расстояния телефоном результат ничуть не хуже. Автофокус забавный, фокусируется на что ему самому вздумается и самое главное где ему вздумается, это может быть любой из углов кадра. простые кадры в нормальном освещении делает хорошо, но ребята из Pentax этого мало для мыльницы 2009 года за 500$ Все навороты этой камеры становятся бесполезными при таком качестве снимков.
Комментарий:
Позабавил положительный отзыв от скрытого пользователя, все так называемые проплаченные тролли не скрывают себя, а вот он почему-то спрятался, наверное боится кары трольской ))) Хотя совет от него поступил дельный, не слушайте никого, идите в большой магазин, берите в руки и щелкайте во всех режимах, а там и ясно будет, кто и кем проплачен. Я собственно говоря так и сделал, в результате я без Pentax W80, хотя если быть честным то и у конкурентов ничего водоплавающего подходящего не нашел, хотя ищу долго. Canon по качеству снимков лучше всех, но неудобный (пузатый) да и зум маловат. Olympus снимает неплохо, но уж слишком много жалоб на то, что захлебываются. Ну это среди моделей дороже 10.000 рубликов. Либо брать попроще но с меньщими претензиями, здесь у фуджика есть неплохая моделька номер непомню, кому надо найдут, скоро Casio выпустит водолаза у них большой опыт в часах дайверских, да и фотики не первый день делают, посмотрим как они это соеденить сумеют. Ну вот вроде и все что нарыл, пойду прогуливать денежки полученные от конкурентов Pentax, они мне енти денюжки коробками везут.
14 лет назад
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
На руках 4 года, был в Средиземном, Черном, Эгейском и Адриатическом морях...Может конечно повезло, но ничего, ни разу, не протекало нигде...Себя оправдывает полностью, брал еще аж за 15 т.р. Подводные цвета передает очень хорошо. Видео и фотки в режиме воды отличные.
Недостатки:
В плохо освещенных местах, да, качество действительно ужасное, но он для дайверов, а не для дискотечных вариантов)))
Комментарий:
Доволен абсолютно, ибо покупал для воды.
10 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
НЕ КЕТАЙ, хотя и Индонезия! Очень шустрый! Автоматический режим очень неплох при правильной настройке. В режиме "Р" можно добиться заметного повышения качества. Наличие стабилизатора и довольно неплохого! Возможность ограничить выбираемые значения ISO. Водо-пыле непроницаемый. Симпатичный дизайн. Наличие режима "часы" и полноценного БУДИЛЬНИКА!!! Цена - взял на распродаже за 4.900 с малюсенькой царапинкой на экранчике.
Недостатки:
За такие деньги их нет. Возможно позже что то выяснится.... Вот год и прошел - недостатков не появилось!
Комментарий:
У самого Сонька зеркальная. Этот брал "мелкой" на день варения. Перед этим долго ковырял Никон 220 и Кэнон 95. Вот у них не смог добиться сколь-нибудь заметного улучшения качества никакими настройками. А шумодав у них давит всякое желание смотреть на фотки! Не слушайте никого, кто кричит, что это плохой фотик - сами пойдите и попробуйте. Особенно покрутите несколько разных моделей от других производителей за те же деньги... Прошел год использования - скажи так - СУПЕР за свои деньги. Снимали на море под водой(не больше 1 метра), мелкая постоянно таскает в школу, сколько раз "летал" и не сосчитать! Работает!!!
12 лет назад
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Болтать много не стану. Вот ссылки на фотографии: http://www.markldavis.com/violetcountry/gallery2/index.php Первые две сделаны им.
Недостатки:
Поглубже бы можно было бы нырять с ним! И корпус бы попрочнее...
13 лет назад
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
симпатичные фотографии под водой (жалко много не получается быстро протекает). Большой набор всяких рамочек и прикольчиков.
Недостатки:
ужасные фотографии в плохо освещенных местах... Живет не долго под водой...
Комментарий:
Камера находится в сервисе на НЕ ГАРАНТИЙНОМ ремонте... видимо с ней купаться было нельзя... протекла через 30 минут... Ремонт объявлен 6000... пусть подавятся своей камерой... Пример фотографий http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/shamtekler/album/96715/ ОЧЕНЬ СТРАННО КАК ТО УДАЛИЛИ МОЙ ОТРИЦАТЕЛЬНЫЙ ОТЗЫВ (пишу второй раз)
13 лет назад
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Зум 5х, широкий угол (28мм), компактные размеры, хорошее макро.
Недостатки:
Шумит на выскоих ИСО, но это уж у всех камер так.
Комментарий:
Советую не обращать внимания на проплаченных тролей (и их коментарии), а просто пойти в магазин и лично потестировать камеру перед покупкой. Модель очень и очень достойная. Собственно поэтому и мешает конкурентам :)
14 лет назад
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
никаких! купили именно эту модель потому, что до этого был фотик такого же производителя, но его сын в чае искупал. Продавец посоветовал водонепронцаемый купить.
Недостатки:
качество фотографий ужасное! Тут один советовал в настройках разобраться, сделала всё как сказал, не помогло. Фотографии не чёткие, цвета не яркие.
Комментарий:
Короче сдали мы его обратно в магазин! И купили панасоник люмикс, теперь довольны.
13 лет назад
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Действительно защищен от воды, пыли и ударов.
Комментарий:
Для такой цены нормальная крепкая мыльница. Пользовал в отпуске на море и продолжаю пользоваться на работе на стройплощадках. В отличии от предидущей своей мыльницы не боюсь уронить в грязь, сунуть без чехла в карман или еще как то попортить. За 8 тыр и не расчитывал на качество зеркалки, потому доволен.
13 лет назад
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Выносливый, как заверяет производитель. Компактный. Интересные функции, такие как: распознавание моргания, делает снимок автоматически, когда фотографируемый улыбнется.
Недостатки:
Качество фотографий не лучше, чем у телефона Nokia. В помещении снимать нельзя, шумит страшно, ни цветопередачи, ни четкости. В солнечную погоду снимает удовлетворительно, для маленького аппарата.
Комментарий:
Хотел купить второй фотоаппарат, такой чтоб и на пляж и в воду можно было без опасения. Но никак не думал, что японцы летом 2009 года могу выпустить модель, которая делает такое безобразие. И еще за такие деньги. Чудом удалось вернуть его в магазин. Хотя допускаю, что мне попался бракованный экземпляр.
14 лет назад
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