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Pirelli Winter Carving Edge зимняя шипованная
Pirelli Winter Carving Edge 175/65 R14 82T зимняя

Цена с картой Яндекс Пэй:3 136

Скидка: 12%
–12 %
Вместо: 3 2003 560
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более года
Достоинства:
Не понимаю, почему не ставят ей все твердую 5ку. За 23 года за рулем я проехал чуть меньше лимона километров, в основном на легковых авто и по городу с окрестностями. Лучшей резины для зимы не встречал. Может не повезло. Последние 7 лет езжу мало - 15-20тыс в год. 7 лет назад зимой купил дустер, Понятно, какую резину ему ставят на заводе. С испугу, не доезжая от салона до дома заехал в "Шинсервис". Там мне и всучили эту масть. Я упорно сопротивлялся, у меня был опыт с б/ушной летней дубовой пирелли, которую я выкинул через месяц. Но делать было особо нечего, деньги после салона на исходе, вокруг зима, а эта дешево, еще и по акции, решил, год поезжу и выкину. Не тут-то было. Мягкая, в меру тихая (тише заводской) На колею, на продольные перепады дорожного полотна вообще не реагирует. Несмотря на шипы, на голом асфальте с ледком АБС почти не срабатывает. Про аквапланирование я вообще забыл. Диски целы и никакие волки с боку не погрызли, в какие только ямы, и на большой скорости, не попадал, проехав на этой резине около 70тыс. Причем из них около 20 летом по жаре, потому что, да простит меня автодор, то лень, то дела мешали вовремя ее менять. До сих пор едет и характеристики не ухудшаются. Ламели остались на задних колесах по 7 мм (менял колеса в ноябре, а летнюю резину до сих пор не купил) - зиму еще точно отъездит. Шипы, конечно стесались, да они и не нужны особо.
Недостатки:
Шум от шипов. Не могу понять производителя, зачем менять модели, перестраивать производство, когда получены такие результаты, когда вокруг все делают хуже и дороже? Сиди, кури бамбук и занимайся маркетингом!
2 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
рисунок, тихая, уверенное сцепление в поворотах, хорошо гребет по снегу, цепкая по наледи, курсовая устойчивость
Недостатки:
субъективно - отсутствие шипов по центру протектора
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Доставили быстро, упакована. Резина хорошо стала, по грузам минимум, отбалансировалась легко. Хорошо держит трассу, на скорости без подруливаний, в повороты заходит уверенно, момент срыва в занос очень хорошо чувствуется - резина оказалась очень безопасной в этом плане. Хорошо идет по глубокому снегу и наледи. Шипы только по краям протектора - но возможно именно из-за этого очень цепко работает - центр держит как липучка, края с шипами дополняют. По акустике одна из самых комфортных шиповок, что у меня были. В общем понравилась полностью
5 месяцев назадМосква
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более года
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Отзыв о предшествиннице в размере 195/60/R15. Про новинку то еще рано писать отзывы имхо) Юзал 4 сезона (~8000 км сезон). Словил шишку на одном колесе (шина не виновата) и выкинуть пришлось пару, присмотрелся и выкинул все 4. На приводных колесах после 5 сезонов осталось шипов %20, на не приводных 50-60%. Протектор подстерся, но еще добрая половина осталась. Условия - 80% асфальт, 20% - подъезд к даче. Не шишка, 5й сезон точно откатал бы еще, но потом точно в помойку. 1) Протектор гребет насколько это возможно для легковых авто. Выехать с парковочного места с утра труда не составляет, грунтозацепы достойные, если например вас закопал чистящий дорогу трактор, то можно переползти через бугорок, шина его сроет и вытащит, копать не надо. Но не оффроад, в снег лезть не стоит, закопается, но последние пару км до дачного домика доедите если накатом даже по глубокому снегу (не до брюха). 2) Шина позиционируется аля для экстрима и оправдывает себя. Повороты на скорости проходит хорошо, не плывет. Она более жесткая (при давлении 2.2 протектор пальцем не продавливается и шину как бублик распирает на диске), чем например хакка 5-6-7, мишка икс айс 1,2 и тд (мягче протектор и боковина), НО и в поворотах я на них ездил гораздо спокойнее. 3) Из плюсов еще пожалуй цена. Дешевле многих. Тормозит на льду достойно. Претензий у меня ни разу не возникло, разве что сезона начиная с третьего заметно чаще стала срабатывать абс в аналогичных условиях, видимо протектор смылился.
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1) Скорее жаба душит за потерянные шипы, чем недостаток. Думаю если так эксплуатировать у всех шин шипы будут вылетать. Шина аля для экстрима. Мои средние скорости 120-160 кмч (кад зависимо от условий). Соответственно ожидается норм работа на таких скоростях. Так вот рулится и едет она хорошо на таких скоростях, НО шипов 10-20% теряет за год (если просто ехать прямо, не тормозить и не давить тапку), на приводных 30% за сезон. Если перебрасывать год от года, то на честных безопасных 3 сезона хватает, дальше не рекомендую. Про "шумная" не пишу. Это не лето, шумит от вибрации, а у этой шины грунтозацепы ярко выраженные, она ессно шумнее шин с более добрым протектором. Делайте музыку громче или берите машину немца с достойной шумкой.
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Купил бы еще раз? Нет, не купил бы. Но не потому что шина плохая, а просто не нужно теперь отжигать 150 кмч. Взял себе хакку 7 на одну машину и контиайс контакт на вторую, она мягче тише, езжу спокойно. На других машинах много чего стояло, хвалю гислад норм фрост 3-4-5. Отлично по цена/качество. p.s. Хакку 7 удавился бы покупать в питере, ездил в финку, купил мейд ин финланд и на 40% дешевле чем в питере, сбалансировалась на ура.
11 лет назад
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более года
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Отъездил сезон, чуть меньше 10к. 16радиус. По ходовым качествам все ок. Предсказуемо и остро управляется. Комфорт хороший, мягко проглатывает трещины и даже более крупные неровности. Машина со всеми ESP, АБС и т.д., потому экстрима в чистом виде заделать не удается. Ни разу не занесло, пару раз здорово esp отдернуло, абс по полной тож было не раз и вполне успешно. На скорости 80км с горки подмерзшей вниз экстренно тормозил, в началале показалось, что вообще не тормозит, но метров через 10 начала здорово останавливать. В жураналах зарулем и авторевю писали что все ок и при экстриме. Даж там чего-то первое-второе место занимали. Гребет, не застревал, хотя сугробы были приличные (ну я про не убранные дворы и проселки, а не целину в поле). Отбалансировалась хорошо, на шиномонтаже сказали что почти идеально ровная. Не шумная! Это так. Поменял на летнюю и специально сравнивал свежие ощущения. Шумит на другой волне, но по громкости практически как летняя (michelin primacy hp).
Недостатки:
Первые полтыщи км шумит, потом значительно тише. Шум у пирелли на несколько неприятных уху тонах происходит, на гиславете шелестело приятнее. Выпало на одном колесе 7 шипов, на втором -4, остальные 2 - как новые. Видимо износ на ведущих идет. То есть к 50тысячам останется где-то 2/3 шипов, что в принципе приемлемо, киславед и гудьир лысели больше половины к 30тысячам пробега.
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Вобщем резина гуд. Цена вменяема, по обзорам, если не врут, входит в тройку лучших балонов для зимы. В колее, если бросить руль, не стоят, но не выстреливают в сторону от туда, а плавно выводят в сторону. По сравнению с др. (имел киславед и гудьир ультрагрип и кумхо нешип) выглядит очень неплохо, особенно кумхо была тихим ужасом. Киславед показалось послабже в плане безопасности, сносило его частенько, гудьир вроде где-то рядом, но там машина была совсем другая и размер тоже, сравнивать сложно.
12 лет назад
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"16радиус" -это в каких ед.измерения???
"16радиус" -это в каких ед.измерения???
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Управляемость, износостойкость, предсказуемость поведения автомобиля, торможение (лёд, асфальт)
Недостатки:
потеря шипов. При затяжных поворотах, приходится сбрасывать газ, так как есть боковой снос передней оси (срабатывает система "анти всё"), но при снижении скорости, управляемость стабильная.
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225/65, R17 Автомобиль Honda CR-V. Купил шины при покупке авто в 2013 году. Сейчас закончился третий сезон. 65-70% шипов нет. Износ протектора соразмерный потере шипов (65-70%) Точно откатаю ещё одну зиму. Использование 80% московский асфальт, но выезжаю за город. Проверил по рыхлому снегу- всё хорошо. Этой зимой оттормаживался по льду перед упавшим деревом где- то со 120 км/ч. Тормозной путь не замерял, но было желание выйти и поцеловать колёса, потому что, ковыряясь в навигаторе, поздно заметил то самое дерево. Про шум писать не буду- на шипах это глупо, да и понятие "шум" у каждого своё. Резкие развороты (на только что погасшую стрелку светофора) стабильно предсказуемы (как и писал выше, на торможении). К колее относятся "нормально": быстро в неё съезжают и так же легко выезжают. Во время тёплых зимних дождей отлично ведут себя в лужах (как святые по воде не бегают) Резюмируя, скажу, что если нужно описать парой слов, то это будет:"стабильно предсказуемые". Выкинув эти шины, ОДНОЗНАЧНО, куплю такие же!
8 лет назадМосква
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более года
Достоинства:
самая обыкновенная зимняя резина,какой и должна быть!
Недостатки:
недостатков нет,это у пользователй есть недостатки,которые ждут от резины на зимних дорогах сцепления как от летних!!!
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езжу на этой резине третий сезон поло седан.застрял только один раз в этом году по своей излишней самоуверенности,которую даёт эта резина.в гараж полез в сугроб,где передомной проехали два внедорожника и всё разворотили.думал проеду,так как проползал в любой снегопад.застрял на пол пути,пока не сел на защиту двигателя.немного окопавшись я сам уже начал выбираться назад,но проходившие мимо ребята просто сами меня вытолкали.моя машина лёгкая,крутящий момент на низких оборотах ,поэтому без лишних газов я проезжаю везде!!!если не умеешь ездить,то супер крутая резина не поможет.езжу очень агрессивно,поэтому смотрю уже на передних колёсах шипов остаётся мало,а на задних никаких изменений.хочу покупать новую,но почитав отзывы о нокиа,мишлене и континетале,то и менять на более дорогую считаю бессмысленно.ямы держит отлично,не одной грыжи и пробоя!был касяк с новья,это пульсирующий гул на асфальте,даже ездил к продавцам ругаться,но через месяц всё прошло.в общем ребята не ждите ни от какой резины чудес!мощный протектор и шипы будут шуметь всегда,очень хорошая резина и цена адекватная!задние колёса оставлю эти,передние куплю другого производителя,ради интереса и через год опишу первые впечатления.всем удачи и адекватной езды!
10 лет назадСамара
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Великолепная проходимость. Долговечность. Цена.
Недостатки:
Нет.
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На момент покупки (2012 год) читал европейские рейтинги, отзывы и тесты. Оптимальным выбором на тот момент была именно эта резина, причем именно 2012 года выпуска, ибо у той, что была произведена раньше шипы вылетали в первый же сезон. Производители это учли и произвели на свет эту шину. По проходимости: Пролазил везде, где мог. Правда, ездил разумно и всего пару раз садился на пузо - копал. Лед, каша, пухляк - не важно. При разумной и аккуратной езде ничего не сносит, ничего не забуривается. По долговечности: Первые 3 сезона - прекрасно. После третьего оставалось 70% шипов, и то большую часть из них я потерял по внутреннему радиусу одного колеса из-за того, что не делал развал схождение. После четвертого сезона осталось где-то 20-30% шипов. Видимо их время пришло. Но 4 сезона безукоризненной езды - это отлично. По шуму: Вот тут сложно сказать. У меня арки шумные, в салоне и летнюю резину слышно. А других зимних шин я на этой машине и не знал. Но, не сказал бы, что прям гудит.
7 лет назадКемерово
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более года
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Главное достоинство, это доступная цена! Купил Pirelli Winter Carving Edge 185\60 R 15 в за 3500 руб. В меру мягкие на нашем щербатом в трещинах асфальте. Твёрдость резиновой смеси на уровне "Континенталь", "Ханкук" - откровенно дубовые! За сезон городской зимы выпало по 3-4 шипа в каждом колесе на наружных дорожках. Короткий (локерный) саморез, влезая в протектор не протыкает на сквозь, за прошлую зиму словил пару штук(даже не знаю когда и сколько с ними ездил), вытащил кусачками - всё ОК. Что удивительно, хорошая балансировка на литых дисках, грузиков по 30гр на колесо.
Недостатки:
Как и все зимние шиповки несколько шумны, причём это даже не шум, а гудение подшипника с раковиной. Такой звук исходящий от колёс всегда напрягает владельцев авто, хотя надо признать что по уровню шума эти колёса гораздо тише чем "Ханкук ай пик" или "Ульта грип" от "Гудиира" из той же ценовой нишы. Колею на асфальтовом покрытии только обозначают, но не стремятся выпрыгнуть или раскачать машину. Это скорей всего особенность всех колёс с острыми заплечиками, округлый профиль более устойчив.
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Шестигранные шипы - скорее маркетинговый ход, а вот круговые резиновые выступы вокруг шипов должны помогать спрессовывать ледяную крошку нарезанную шипом. Проехав потихоньку по льду, остановился посмотреть - на поверхности чёткие куличики снега прилипшие ко льду, даже ногтем не сковырнуть. Но это при минус 5. Что будет при ноле, или -20 пока загадка, скорей всего эта фишка работает в узком диапазоне температур. Шины так сказать "бюджетной" категории, в случае фатального пробоя не так много скорби по ней, а уровень сцепных свойств должен быть в голове. Поумерьте летний драйв и удачи вам с Pirelli Winter Carving Edge.
11 лет назад
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Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Скажу сразу отзыв про резину Итальянского производства! А не Россию и не Турцию! Разница небо и земля! Ведет себя хорошо на любом покрытии и в любую погоду! Полностью адекватная резина! vw passat b5+, esp, abs. r15 195/65
Недостатки:
На резине Итальянского производства не выявлено! Единственное, что могу подтвердить, присутствие бокового сноса в сильный гололед, многие про него пишут. По моим ощущением снос вовсе не критичный и прогнозируемый.
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Ездил на данной модели Итальянского производства! Очень живучая! Из опыта вождения скажу что есть с чем сравнивать. Потери по шипам совсем мизерные! Там на каждом колесе по 5 - 7 шипов вылетело! Семь сезонов откатал, под конец седьмого на одном заднем баллоне протер боковину, канавы! Хотел купить таких же 2 баллона на замену, стал искать смотрел такую Турецкую - дубовая, ценник приемлемый. Смотрел Россию - вроде нормальная но жаба задушила из-за ценника! Купил на задок 2 баллона дешевого амтела по 1200 за балон, сезон доездил и продал с машиной) Покупайте у проверенных продавцов и лучше не Турцию! Италию наврятли сейчас найдете, так как производство есть в России.
8 лет назадЭлектросталь
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Цена, разрабатка итальянцев, хорошо тормозит, хорошо держит дорогу, в управлении присутствуют драйверские нотки.
Недостатки:
Тяжелая по весу покрышка, есть небольшой шум после 60 км/ч (а у кого его нет?), закапывается в рыхлом снегу.
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Купил 175/65 R14 осенью 2008г. Сделаны в Турции. Ожидал худшего, но все оказалось очень даже замечательно, откатав на них 4 зимы, могу смело утверждать это. На счет вылетающих шипов - резину нужно правильно обкатывать + в 2009г изменились сами шипы к этой резине - они стали чуть длинее, поэтому и выскакивают чаще, потому что у меня за 4 сезона вылетело с комплекта (4покрышки) всего 3 шипа. По управляемости: рулится очень хорошо, тормозит тоже достойно, снежная колея ощущается средне, в каше и рыхлом снегу показатели средние или ниже. UPD 2013. Сменил авто осенью 2012г. и на зиму снова взял пирелли эти, только уже 185\65 R15. Сделаны в России. По весу легче турецких R14. Отъездил сезон, сейчас переобулся на лето и осмотрел снятые пирелли:. Ни одного потерянного шипа (пробег 8 тыс.), рулятся отменно, по каше прекрасно. Однозначно те кто теряют шипы не обкатывают резину с новья и постоянно уходят с пробуксовкой со светофоров - вам любой резины не хватит с такой манерой езды. Итак, использую уже второй комплект и полет отличный - резину однозначно рекомендую и повышаю свою предыдущую оценку до "отлично". Лучшая резина по сочетанию цена/качество. Рекомендую.
11 лет назадМосква
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На скорости 80км с горки подмерзшей вниз экстренно тормозил, в началале показалось, что вообще не тормозит, но метров через 10 начала здорово останавливать. В жураналах зарулем и авторевю писали что все ок и при экстриме. Даж там чего-то первое-второе место занимали. Гребет, не застревал, хотя сугробы были приличные (ну я про не убранные дворы и проселки, а не целину в поле). Отбалансировалась хорошо, на шиномонтаже сказали что почти идеально ровная. Не шумная! Это так. Поменял на летнюю и специально сравнивал свежие ощущения. Шумит на другой волне, но по громкости практически как летняя (michelin primacy hp).","contra":"Первые полтыщи км шумит, потом значительно тише. Шум у пирелли на несколько неприятных уху тонах происходит, на гиславете шелестело приятнее. Выпало на одном колесе 7 шипов, на втором -4, остальные 2 - как новые. Видимо износ на ведущих идет. 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Что будет при ноле, или -20 пока загадка, скорей всего эта фишка работает в узком диапазоне температур.\r\nШины так сказать \"бюджетной\" категории, в случае фатального пробоя не так много скорби по ней, а уровень сцепных свойств должен быть в голове. Поумерьте летний драйв и удачи вам с Pirelli Winter Carving Edge.","pro":"Главное достоинство, это доступная цена! Купил Pirelli Winter Carving Edge 185\\60 R 15 в за 3500 руб. \r\nВ меру мягкие на нашем щербатом в трещинах асфальте. Твёрдость резиновой смеси на уровне \"Континенталь\", \"Ханкук\" - откровенно дубовые!\r\nЗа сезон городской зимы выпало по 3-4 шипа в каждом колесе на наружных дорожках.\r\nКороткий (локерный) саморез, влезая в протектор не протыкает на сквозь, за прошлую зиму словил пару штук(даже не знаю когда и сколько с ними ездил), вытащил кусачками - всё ОК.\r\nЧто удивительно, хорошая балансировка на литых дисках, грузиков по 30гр на колесо.","contra":"Как и все зимние шиповки несколько шумны, причём это даже не шум, а гудение подшипника с раковиной. Такой звук исходящий от колёс всегда напрягает владельцев авто, хотя надо признать что по уровню шума эти колёса гораздо тише чем \"Ханкук ай пик\" или \"Ульта грип\" от \"Гудиира\" из той же ценовой нишы.\r\nКолею на асфальтовом покрытии только обозначают, но не стремятся выпрыгнуть или раскачать машину. Это скорей всего особенность всех колёс с острыми заплечиками, округлый профиль более устойчив.","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":27,"reject":13,"total":40,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region"},"factors":[]},"37063472":{"entity":"review","id":"37063472","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":5070946,"userId":2694263,"anonymous":0,"created":1366359450000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Купил 175/65 R14 осенью 2008г. Сделаны в Турции. Ожидал худшего, но все оказалось очень даже замечательно, откатав на них 4 зимы, могу смело утверждать это. На счет вылетающих шипов - резину нужно правильно обкатывать + в 2009г изменились сами шипы к этой резине - они стали чуть длинее, поэтому и выскакивают чаще, потому что у меня за 4 сезона вылетело с комплекта (4покрышки) всего 3 шипа. 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