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Это невероятный процессор, произведение искусства. Он значительно превзошел все ожидания.
1. Производительность
Ему нет равных. Вообще. Это самый быстрый процессор не только среди настолько сегмента и рабочих станций, но и один из самых быстрых даже в конкуренции с серверными решениями за 6000-7000 долл!
Вот результаты тестов на частоте 4.3 ггц по всем ядрам
Cinebench R20 - 10023 (ни один процессор на воздушном охлаждении не демонстрирует ничего подобного. Самый близкий конкурент это 18 ядерный Intel i9-10980xe с результатом 9400 на частоте 4.1 ггц, все что выше по частоте на воде или азоте)
Wprime 1024 - 39.3 сек (Intel i9-10980xe 4.1 ггц - 43 сек)
CPU-z Benchmark - 11560 (Intel - 10200)
7 zip - 168200 (Intel - 133400)
Passmark CPU - 36400 (Intel - 33350)
Userbench All core - 3090 (Intel - 2950)
2. Разгонный потенциал высокий. Но мне повезло с камнем. У меня он работает стабильно на частоте 4.3 ггц по всем ядрам и напряжении 1.34 в задачах с предельным использованием ресурсов и 1.3 в играх и офисных задачах. Большинство тестов способен проходить на 4.375 но при напряжении 1.38-1.39. Дальше не имеет смысла.
3. Энергоэффективность выдающиеся! Тест Prime 95 29.8 стресс тест Small FFT + AVX + AVX2 на частоте 4000 и напряжении 1.2 среднее напряжение в тесте было 1.094, а потребление 200-203 на протяжении полу часа. Это самый жесткий тест из возможных Для сравнения i9-10980xe жрет 400 ватт на частоте 4000. Без AVX потребление 161-163 ватт, а у i9-10980xe в два раза больше 350! Энергоэффективность выше в два раза, это чудо! Cinebench R20 по всем ядрам на частоте 4000 - 134 ватт, на 4100 - 147, на 4200 - 164, на 4300 уже 195 и пиками до 203. Это самое большое потребление в прикладных задачах. В играх 60-90, самое большое в Battlefield 5.
4. Температура 42-50 в играх, в простое 28-30, в инете и офисе 32-33, Cinebench R20 78-79 при 4300, а Prime 95 Small FFT + AVX около 83-85 на кулере Noctua NH-D15 (две вертушки, открытый корпус, в комнате 20). Температура стабильна
Это все произвольные результаты от АМД фанбоя, у меня в компьютере Intel i9 10980XE и почему-то я такую чушь которая приведена сверху в пользу АМД в Cinebench не наблюдал, но я не говорю что процессор от АМД плохой, да по поводу произведения искусства я согласен, но то что в связи с этим надо обязательно гнать пургу в сторону Intel это не правильно. Как говорится на вкус и цвет...ах да и кошелёк. 60 тысяч это тоже не розы! Причём не забываем господа, что у всех разные сборки системников, разное охлаждение, спецификации и железо.
Это все произвольные результаты от АМД фанбоя, у меня в компьютере Intel i9 10980XE и почему-то я такую чушь которая приведена сверху в пользу АМД в Cinebench не наблюдал, но я не говорю что процессор от АМД плохой, да по поводу произведения искусства я согласен, но то что в связи с этим надо обязательно гнать пургу в сторону Intel это не правильно. Как говорится на вкус и цвет...ах да и кошелёк. 60 тысяч это тоже не розы! Причём не забываем господа, что у всех разные сборки системников, разное охлаждение, спецификации и железо.
Проц огонь.
Температуры для в 16 ядер, 32 потока держались на уровне 67-75 градусов при нагрузке. Так как водянка влезла только в фронтовую часть корпуса, а там с решётками беда.
Но после некоторого шаманства удалось снизить до 70 градусов.
Ещё чуть чуть повозившись снизил до 68 в стресс тесте.
UPD---
Дополню отзыв спустя пару месяцев.
1) Сделал андервольт, -80mv, проц с ним стал брать до 4600 по показаниям MSI Afterburner, (аптайм 10 дней)
2) Работать в visual studio по факту такое себе. Сама IDE по ходу не может утилизировать столько потоков. Сборка быстрая, а вот сам интерфейс подлагивает. А вот rider jetbrains может утилизировать все 32 потока, и лагов пока что не заметил.
3) Пробовал включать PBO и PBO2, по факту что с ним что без разницы 0.
4) pcie 4.0, неплохой задел на будущее
Недостатки:
К процессору в комплект брал 4 планки памяти на 64гига c частотой 3200.
Проц с XMP профилем не прошёл memtest86+, за проход от 5 до 25 ошибок.
Без ошибок работает только с 3133. Причем проверил этот же комплект на Intel и там всё было чётко и без ошибок. В итоге завёл с 3133, и пониженными таймингами :D Так что в итоге скорость чтения стала даже больше чем на XMP-3200.
UPD---
Опробовал 2 комплекта памяти. В итоге 3066 стабильно. На 3133 как позже выяснилось стабильности тоже не было. Не уверен что проблема в процессоре, но если брать 64 гига+ планки для него надо брать по ходу очень дорогие. (выше 600$) Или мне дважды не повезло. Подробности есть в отзыве на HyperX HX432C16PB3K4
Комментарий:
Сразу после покупки, рекомендую обновить биос материнской платы.
Так как у меня был agesa combo-am4 1.0.0.3. И с ним проц не брал не то что 4.5, а даже выше 3,8 редко поднимался при нагрузке на 1 ядро .
-С головой уделывает, что интел называет HEDT (x299) на материнке за 3 руб. 50 коп.
-Если pcie 4.0 не нужен - значит можно юзать б450 томагавк/мортар и не париться. Одна оговорка, если будете пользовать водичку (на супер-бюджетной доске, типо томагавка) - убедитесь, что по питальнику хоть чуточку воздух ходит. Если что-то на манер Noctua-d15/Dark rock pro 4 - с этим получше будет.
-Абсурдно высокая производительность в рабочих задачах
-До смешного низкие требования к охладу. Скорее всего топ, либо предтоп бин силикона, что позволило работать процу на оч низком вольтаже.
Недостатки:
-Разгон. Мамкиным оверклоклокерам будет грустно, смысла большого не несет, а в некоторых ситуациях выставленная частота по всем ядрам - ухудшит производительность, зависит от типа нагрузки. Плюсом, при этом эффективность падает сквозь пол и температуры сложней удерживать в адекватных рамках.
Алгоритмы буста все ближе к тому, как работают видеокарты - кому плюс, кому минус, на самом деле. Но зато от температуры (заметно ниже комнатной) прикольно скейлинг идет, но это все экзотика и баловство, при 24/7 использовании не стоит сильно заморачиваться.
-Ну, не тредриппер это, а обычная потребительская платформа - PCI линий маловато, ну и в зависимости от доски - беда с IOMMU группами, но кому нужны виртуальные машины с выделенной перефирией в состоянии погуглить, либо есть альтернативы, так что такой себе минус.
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За свои деньги топич, интеловский 10980xe(он же 9980xe только за полцены) и рядом не валялся в плане цена-производительность, пока не освоят новый тех процесс ответить синим нечем, к сожалению. Если хочется вкинуть больше денег в железо - смотри TRX40.
Х299 уже мертва, притом давно
2й рефреш процов(7980-9980-10980, существенная разница только меж 7 и 9 - припой вместо термопасты под теплораспределителем), при этом без серьезных изменений - не смешно даже.
под свои задачи все равно выберу интел, я не делаю видеоконтент, работаю с аудио, не везде UAD PCI-e работает на AMD, я не хотел бы участвовать в такой дорогостоящей лотерее, если завезут поддержку сего продукта, то однозначно амд будет как основа рабочего пк)))
под свои задачи все равно выберу интел, я не делаю видеоконтент, работаю с аудио, не везде UAD PCI-e работает на AMD, я не хотел бы участвовать в такой дорогостоящей лотерее, если завезут поддержку сего продукта, то однозначно амд будет как основа рабочего пк)))
Скорость рендера в короне просто улёт. Тяжёлые сцены максимум 40 минут и температура при этом не поднимается выше 57 градусов! Для этих задач проц просто пушка!
Недостатки:
Да всё понравилось.
Комментарий:
Пашет уже почти 2 года, как конь, стабильно шустро и холодно. В простое 31 градус, под рендером 52-57. Без всяких разгонов и прочей ерунды. Всё устраивает пока.
Выбирайте либо бокс либо нормальный кулер. На 6 и более трубок и с приличным вентилятором.
И главное, требует нормальную мать. Мать подбирать по таблице , легко найти в Яндексе. Таблица VRM. Подбор не по чипу а по схеме питания
И будет ваш проц холодный и производительный.
Для примера: на ga-b550m ds3h полет в осст 80градусов
На b550m mortar max - 67.....
Производительность
Стоимость
Температура под длительной нагрузкой при воздушном охлаждении - 76-79 градусов
Первый процессор AMD после длительной эксплуатации Intel - цена/производительность выше всяких похвал.
Недостатки:
Неприятно удивил тот факт, что подняв частоту всех ядер под нагрузкой до 4.2-4.3ггц, процессор уже не бустится до заявленных 4.6-4.7ггц на одно ядро... Такой разгон, судя по всему, возможен только на дефолтных настройках биоса, но, возможно, я чего-то не знаю...
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Если рассматриваете для покупки данный процессор, то факт, что ему нет на сегодняшний день конкурентов, не станет для вас сюрпризом... Собирал систему с этим процессором для 3D графики взамен 2хE5-2683 v3 (с разблокированным турбобустом 3.1ггц по всем ядрам). После небольшого разгона производительность в рендер движках превзошла прошлую систему на 10-15% , но при этом ощутимо возрасла скорость работы однопоточных задач.
В Cinebench r15 получил 4150 баллов
В Cinebench15 E5-2683 v3 набирает 1860 очков. Пусть 2000 и умножим на 2, т.к. два процессора = 4000. Ryzen 3950x в R15 набирает 9,148 очков. Что более чем в 2 раза быстрее. Это в многопоточном режиме. В однопоточном не знаю как считать при 2-х процессорах. E5-2683 v3 = 115 очков. 3950x = 217 очков. Нужно ли складывать два процессора? Наверное нужно. 115 *2 = 230. По идее, чуть больше. Возможно, что два процессора просто не смогут поделить задачи, типа физики в Синема4д. Там только одно ядро может считать физику, если не ошибаюсь. Т.е. в некоторых задачах, Интел будет набирать 115 очков.
В Cinebench15 E5-2683 v3 набирает 1860 очков. Пусть 2000 и умножим на 2, т.к. два процессора = 4000. Ryzen 3950x в R15 набирает 9,148 очков. Что более чем в 2 раза быстрее. Это в многопоточном режиме. В однопоточном не знаю как считать при 2-х процессорах. E5-2683 v3 = 115 очков. 3950x = 217 очков. Нужно ли складывать два процессора? Наверное нужно. 115 *2 = 230. По идее, чуть больше. Возможно, что два процессора просто не смогут поделить задачи, типа физики в Синема4д. Там только одно ядро может считать физику, если не ошибаюсь. Т.е. в некоторых задачах, Интел будет набирать 115 очков.
Это не процессор, это чудовище! Прогнал сейчас тесты на скорость рендера в реальных задачах - выгоняем проект AE, через Rendergarden, в 10 сидов. Мой рабочий Mac Pro, 12 ядер (2x Xeon5690), 64 гб, все диски SSD - выгнал за 2мин 22 сек. Дома на R9 3950 без разгона - 50 сек. Я, конечно, ожидал прироста, но чтобы в 2.5 раза..
Апдейт: погонял еще тесты, это все пока без разгона, на PBO - так вот, в среднем он уезжает от 12-голового Мака даже не в 2.5, а в 3 раза. В зависимости от проекта, рендер быстрее от 2 до 4 с копейками раз, причем там где превышение ниже - упор не в процессор, а в дисковую подсистему: на маке рейд 0 из 4 ssd, а тут исходники берутся с одного ssd и на него же рендерятся
Производительность и низкие темпиратуры, почитав отзывы толи у меня камень такой толи народ куллеры не под него ставит в играх больше 55 не видел, в стрес тестах максимум 70, у меня куллер термалрайт с ТДП 320в.
Недостатки:
Цена.
Комментарий:
Как только не пробовал разгонять но где эти 4,7 МГц увидеть, так и не смог разогнать, с интелом конечно проще в этом плане, в итоге забил впринципе и так хватает его за глаза, да еще то что он холодный радует, до него с тем же охладом 9900к был, тот в играх до 80 доходил, про стрес тест вообще молчу. Вобщем покупкой довелен, жду в связку к нему RTX3090. Сечас мать на X570 от асус и 2080ti от MSI.
Зверь, 32 потока, я поставил 48 оперативки и 4 tb ssd, .
Интел с такими техами больше 100 выходит
2 года назад
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