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Ноутбук Lenovo THINKPAD X1 Carbon Ultrabook (7th Gen) (2560x1440, Intel Core i7 1.8 ГГц, RAM 16 ГБ, SSD 256 ГБ, Win10 Pro)
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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Выдерживает рабочий день от батареи Качественно собран Легкий и тонкий На корпусе достаточно портов usb, hdmi Неожиданно отличный звук
Недостатки:
Существенно нагревается при зарядке во включенном состоянии, но при зарядке в выключенном состоянии все нормально Нет слота под SD или хотя бы microSD Не понятно зачем сделали Ethernet через переходник, а не нормальный складной порт Корпус любит оставлять следы от пальцев
Комментарий:
Модель 20QD002XRT Core i5, 16gb, fullHD Пользуюсь давно линейкой Х, и эта модель ожидаемо вполне устраивает. Удобно носить каждый день, мало весит. При этом никаких компромиссов в производительности и функциональности. При всех описаных недостатках данной модели покупкой полностью доволен. Всегда пользовался трек-поинтом и его наличие было обязательным при выборе, но в этом ноуте настолько хороший тачпад, что перешёл на него. Работает очень тихо, дросселя не пищат Приятным бонусом идёт встроенная шторка для камеры
4 года назадМосква
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Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
1.Клавиатура - уменьшился ход, четкий и беззвучный отклик (за исключением пробела, он клацает), наконец то пропала расхлябанность. Подсветка почти не пробивается больше из под боков кнопок, светятся только буквы. 2.Форм фактор - большой экран при минимальном размере крышки, размер как у 13 дюйм ноута, очень легкий, экран открывается одной рукой, при этом клавиатуру не надо придерживать другой рукой. Ощущается монолитной цельной Вещью, ни одного сверчка или скрипа, петли не тугие, но экран не люфтит. 3.Батарея отличная, более 12-ти часов работы в офисе. 4.Звук классный - 4 колонки. 5.Механическая шторка у камеры. 6.Не греется и бесшумный, вентилятор не включался пока ни разу при работе в офисных приложениях. Даже нет желания поставить TP FanControl, как делал на всех раньше. 7.TrackPoint - больше нет такого, что бы после прокрутки, курсор продолжал самопроизвольное движение, как это было на всех IBM и Lenovo, но кнопки стали нажиматься жестко, как на HP. 8.Нет кучи предустановленного софта, почти всё собрано в едином приложении - Lenovo Vantage, достаточно удобном. 9.Экран без частотно импульсной модуляции (PWM) при уменьшении яркости. Максимальная яркость хороша, минимальная тоже достаточна для работы ночью. Если у вас будет мерцать шрифт, идите в настройку Intel Graphics Control Panel и отключайте режим энергосбережения. Но субъективно - экран не очень, в глазах какой то муар от него. 10.Не слышно работу конденсаторов, ноут в этом плане абсолютно тихий. На всех предыдущих Lenovo в том или ином виде был слышен треск или шипение. 11.Кнопка питания перекочевала на боковую панель, теперь видно без открытия крышки (и автоматического включения) спит ноут или выключился. 12.BIOS удобный графический. 13.Сканер отпечатка реактивный и точный, ни одного ложного срабатывания. 14.Есть крепление под замок kensington. 15.Обязательно берите с LTE, ноут всегда онлайн, очень удобно. Забыл про поиск или раздачу с телефона WiFi.
Недостатки:
1. Яркие синие диоды на клавиатуре, CapsLock, FnLock, отключения звука и микрофона, режут глаз даже днем. Можно попробовать выковырять кнопки и закрасить маркером с обратной стороны, что бы притушить свечение, но я пока не готов к экспериментам. 2. Нет иголки в комплекте для вытаскивания лотка сим карты. 3. Нет кард-ридера. 4. Родная зарядка, уже кажется достаточно большой, хочется что то поменьше, благо с новым разъемом зарядки USB Type C поле для экспериментов теперь большое.
Комментарий:
Что сказать в итоге, доволен как слон, ноут стоит каждого потраченного рубля, удовольствие от пользования хорошей вещью, длится дольше чем от дешевой цены, гораздо дольше, особенно когда это твой рабочий инструмент. Пользуюсь ThinkPad-ами с 2002-ого года, тогда еще был IBM ThinkPad 600, мало кто такое вообще видел :) и могу сказать, что Х1 в седьмой генерации - это уже весьма доведенная до ума машина.
4 года назадБрёхово
Комментарий 103165579
А какой экран у Вас? И какой проц?
А какой экран у Вас? И какой проц?
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
- Время автономной работы (около 9-10ч при работе с браузером, документами, просмотром коротких роликов) - Легкость (вес 1.1 кг; разница с 1.5 кг очень ощущается) - Качество экрана (2к) - Производительность (i7) - Невероятно удобная клавиатура - Абсолютно бесшумный (вентилятор включается лишь при больших обновлениях) - Почти не нагревается (при обычном использовании ощущается лишь очень слабый нагрев клавиатуры) - Дизайн маскулинный и строгий - Возможность использовать симку для интернета
Недостатки:
- В течение нескольких недель резко упало время автономной работы на ~30% и ноутбук начал заметно нагреваться, но потом само починилось. Возможно, дело в обновлениях. - Корпус довольно маркий, но для меня не критично, можно время от времени чистить его.
Комментарий:
Ноутбук замечательно подходит для работы и частой транспортировки. Он очень легкий, долго работает от аккумулятора, надежно собран, имеет хороший и приятный экран, бесшумный и мало нагревается. Чтобы не было зависимости от внешнего Wi-Fi или не раздавать со смартфона, можно использовать симку. Клавиатура очень удобная, как и у других ThinkPad, при этом сам ноутбук очень компактный. Сравнивал с разными вариациями MacBook Pro 13.3. Тот уступает существенно по качеству клавиатуры и легкости, и у него нет слота для симки, а также по обзорам он больше нагревается и шумит, чем X1 Carbon. Для тех, кто много работает за ноутбуком, рекомендую брать именно 2к разрешение. С одной стороны глаза меньше устают и большие информации попадает на экран, чем на Full HD, а с другой стороны, он работает раза в 2 дольше от аккумулятора, чем с 4К экраном (и я не уверен, что разница в качестве заметна для 14-дюймового экрана).
3 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
В контексте использования как linux-машины для системного программиста в конфигурации i7 + 512GB + 16GB + 4K: * Ubuntu-20.04 встала без проблем, HiDPI дисплеи в плане шрифтов - это нечто! * Легкий шо ппц, иногда кажется что в сумке его нет * Аппаратное шифрование диска успокаивает :) * Производительность везде, кроме скайпа - вах) * Док-станция 40AS0090EU Type-C Gen 2 подошла идеальна, включая поддержку монитора (были сомнения, что заведется) * 6 часов в режиме браузера с WiFi в условиях конференции - норм
Недостатки:
* Тротлинг! Задействование всех ядер под компиляцию ffmpeg приводит к снижению частоты до 1400 MHz, в 2 раза ниже написанного в характеристиках * HiDPI поддерживается далеко не всеми программами корректно (Shutter, GIMP и toggl как пример) * Бубны с UEFI: сделать dual boot так и не удалось Теперь общее и для винды тоже: * Вентиляция нехило греет руку с мышкой. Неприятно. * Трекпад - ну не получается его использовать, тут снайперское владение пальцами нужно. Помимо этого он еще и дрейфить начинает сам иногда. * ШИМ в подсветке экрана: пока сравнивать не с чем, но при съемке с телефона видно, что он адовый на низких уровнях подсветки.
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Наверно, в другой жизни, я бы взял i5 (если в нем нет проблем с тротлингом). Или нет :) А еще может быть взял бы обычный FullHD вместо 4К ради отсутствия ШИМ и большей производительности UI засчет меньшего числа пикселей. Или нет :) Отдельно напишу про Ubuntu-20.04, на которую проапгрейдился с 18.04 за неделю до релиза. * Проблемы с микрофоном, описанные на форуме Lenovo, ушли совсем. * Заработал датчик отпечатков пальцев (правда на testing-версии прошивки из fwupd) * В целом Gnome стал работать стабильнее, жестких зависаний за неделю не замечено * Но как-то странно работает suspend - то не засыпает, то не просыпается. Закономерности пока не понял.
4 года назадМосква
Комментарий 103904529
Согласен, что версия с 4к не радует особой длительностью работы, для придания вида энерго -оптимизации глушу яркость и отрубаю блютус и проч. Писали, что якобы может помочь длительности работы, если снизить разрешение до 2к, но до этого не дошел еще. А, вот что еще - глянец замучал бликать, хоть и красивый. С другой стороны, ставил своего 4к малыша рядом с FHD, картинка, конечно, не сравнима. Думаю, эти 2-3 дополнительных часа работы не стоят такой визуальной потери. Разве что предложить решение ситуации с бликами на солнце.
Согласен, что версия с 4к не радует особой длительностью работы, для придания вида энерго -оптимизации глушу яркость и отрубаю блютус и проч. Писали, что якобы может помочь длительности работы, если снизить разрешение до 2к, но до этого не дошел еще. А, вот что еще - глянец замучал бликать, хоть и красивый. С другой стороны, ставил своего 4к малыша рядом с FHD, картинка, конечно, не сравнима. Думаю, эти 2-3 дополнительных часа работы не стоят такой визуальной потери. Разве что предложить решение ситуации с бликами на солнце.
Комментарий 103955918
По поводу выдува "горячего воздуха" справа (в настольном режиме), самому было дискомфортно пока не поставил утилиту TPFan Control (режим Smart), с тех пор руку с мышкой не греет :)) рекомендую) Насчет снайперского владения пальцами с трекпадом - у каждого пальцы, конечно, свои)) я освоился быстро. В режиме когда на кровати, а нот на пузе, то очень удобно в сравнении с TouchPad, который находится внизу (у пуза :))) Дрейф курсора пока не замечал) Троттлинг, да, есть, тоже стоит i7, но вроде как решается "андервольтингом" процессора, по отзывам ноут после этого работает стабильнее в тяжелых приложениях.. сам пока не делал) По поводу ШИМ: у меня экран FHD, глаза не устают после долгого, значит шим отсутствует??
По поводу выдува "горячего воздуха" справа (в настольном режиме), самому было дискомфортно пока не поставил утилиту TPFan Control (режим Smart), с тех пор руку с мышкой не греет :)) рекомендую) Насчет снайперского владения пальцами с трекпадом - у каждого пальцы, конечно, свои)) я освоился быстро. В режиме когда на кровати, а нот на пузе, то очень удобно в сравнении с TouchPad, который находится внизу (у пуза :))) Дрейф курсора пока не замечал) Троттлинг, да, есть, тоже стоит i7, но вроде как решается "андервольтингом" процессора, по отзывам ноут после этого работает стабильнее в тяжелых приложениях.. сам пока не делал) По поводу ШИМ: у меня экран FHD, глаза не устают после долгого, значит шим отсутствует??
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
- материал корпуса - оч приятный - клавиатура - перфекто - экран (QHD) - 1 ТБ винт
Недостатки:
- периодически отваливается интернет и не подключается до перезагрузки - несколько раз отключался тачпад, не всегда лечится перезагрузкой (однажды пришлось переустанавлить драйвера) - но не исключено что по этим пунктам вина Windows а не Lenovo - спустя год стал замечать что слышу как работает ноут - некоторые похрустывания внутри (звук как будто hdd работает, но в ssd скрежетать нечему, так что хз что это) - ценник в России
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доволен. в 2019 вышел в комплектации с 16 гб памяти, 1 тб диском и QHD экраном за ~130к с накладными расходами по доставке из USA
3 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Тачпад! Экран Вес 2 "старых" USB Зарядка USB-C от зарядки Samsung note 10 (от менее мощных USB-C - нет) Экран раскрывается на 180 градусов относительно клавы Звук норм (пишут, что в 6м поколении был плох) Время работы - день без проблем
Недостатки:
- Первые 2 месяца использования постоянно отваливался wi-fi модуль после перехода в спящий режим. Поддержка никак не помогала, давая советы играть настройками, которые эффекта не давали. Неделю назад прилетело обновление и все работает нормально. Ура, но остадочек остался. - Спустя месяц использования стал дребезжать один из динамиков. При сжимании угла корпуса дребезжание пропадало, но фильм так не посмотришь. По гарантии обратиться не успел, пропало само. Ура, но опасения на будущее и вопрос к качеству есть. - Иногда (раз в 2 недели), достав из сумки "спавший" ноут обнаруживаю, что он нагрелся, висит и съел всю батарею. Это неудобно, но систему проявления проблемы пока не выявил. Буду наблюдать, а потом жаловаться в поддержку. - Отпечатки пальцев на всем этом прекрасном обрезиненном корпусе обязывают иметь и использовать тряпочки для протирки мониторов. После них не кажется, что владелец всегда работает с тачпадом, держа в руку куриную ногу или сэнвич.
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20qd003ert - самая пустая модель - чуть дороже 90к. Искал комп такой же надежный, легкий и всегда готовый к работе (в том числе без мыши) как мой macbook air 2011, но на windows. Тяжелых задач нет, но хочется работать везде и без мыши. У этого действительно очень удобный тачпад. Мышь не нужна прям совсем. Экран немного резал глаза с непривычки в первый день, но что-то там можно было настроить и стало ок. Большой монитор на работе к ноуту больше не подключаю, хотя hdmi есть. Рекомендую к рассмотрению тем у кого в приоритете клавиатура, тачпад и экран и требуется windows.
4 года назадМосква
Комментарий 103014311
мнимое засыпание походу наследственный баг, ищите на форумах решение Мне помогло накатить свежий биос без батарейки
мнимое засыпание походу наследственный баг, ищите на форумах решение Мне помогло накатить свежий биос без батарейки
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Всё, и в отдельности: 1) Корпус, да он пачкается, но его очень приятно трогать, я каждый раз получаю тупо удовольствие проводя рукой по как бы прорезиненной поверхности. 2) ТачПад, просто топ, как и пункт 1, он скользит как надо, раньше я не думал, что смогу отказаться от мышки. 3) Звук, вообще не ожидал, ранее были ноуты с сабвуфером, но здесь это просто топ, это как портативная новомодная колонка с топовым звуком. 4) Прочность, всё же его военные стандарты, чего-то стоят, по крайней мере сразу не развалиться. 5) Сим карта, блин очень удобно :), wifi в прошлом, кроме дома. Но тест скорости и фактическая скорость ниже чем у телефона, но хватает на фулл хд онлайн. 6) Всё шустро, в том числе SSD, не пожадничали на 500 чтение, поставили нормальные 3500... и так со всем. 7) Зарядка от Type C, сложно назвать достоинством, это должно быть в порядке вещей, но блин попадаются аппараты с другим разъёмом, что жутко бесит. А так, телефон, ноут, наушники всё на Type C, всё от одного адаптера. 8) Масса, я как бы привык к ультрабукам, но все кто его придерживают сразу в восторге. 9) FnLock появился :) поймут те кто имел дело раньше с этим типом клавы.
Недостатки:
1) Процессор на максималках может проработать несколько секунд, далее перегрев и сброс частоты. Как бы для основных задач всё ок, набрал свои 4.6 ГГц, выполнил задачу за миллисекунды. Но если речь идёт о каких нибудь тяжелых играх, это не сюда. Однако отдельная история про 2D, типа террарии, факторио, FTL, Prison A. итд, тут всё на ура и классно. 2) Автономность бывало и лучше, немного срезали батарею, а проц всё же кушает...
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У меня 1920p, сенсорный, 512 SSD, 16 ОЗУ, проц 4.6Гц.
4 года назадСанкт-Петербург
Комментарий 103040879
сенсорный экран действительно нужен и как в целом качество экрана?
сенсорный экран действительно нужен и как в целом качество экрана?
Комментарий 103165585
Попробуйте донастроить проц. Понизить волтаж и мощность. Есть интелловская утилита. В итоге и тише и мощнее( так как меньше перегрев и нет тротлинга) и батарейку сэкономить чутка шанс есть.
Попробуйте донастроить проц. Понизить волтаж и мощность. Есть интелловская утилита. В итоге и тише и мощнее( так как меньше перегрев и нет тротлинга) и батарейку сэкономить чутка шанс есть.
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Качество во всём.
Недостатки:
Не обнаружил
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Купил изначально т490, но его стандартная матрица 250 разочаровала, тут же сдал его в трейд-ин и забрал карбон G7 i7 16gb. Чертовски приятный и притягательный. Его не хочется закрывать и убирать. Схожие ощущения как и с яблочными продуктами, но в среде Win и с более строгим, классическим дизайном. Купил док станцию к нему, будет удобно с ней на работе. Очень рад покупке, рекомендую.
3 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Обновился с 5-го поколения. Что сказать - звук стал существенно лучше, экран матовый и при этом touch based. Прекрасное разблокирование по face scan, более того, если уходишь от ноута - можно поставить опцию автоматической блокировки. В остальном - как всегда - супер продукт. PS оперативка у меня 16 гб
Недостатки:
пока никаких нареканий
4 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
1. Лёгкий вес 2. Матовый экран 3. Слабо греется 4. Открывается на 180 градусов. Это топ 5. Шторка камеры
Недостатки:
1. С большими руками было неудобно пользоваться тачпадом. Пальцы ложились на кнопки, а не на сам тачпад. 2. F1-12 клавиши смещены влево, чтобы поместились insert, home, end. Возможно дело привычки, но я на маке с тачбаром по этим кнопкам попадаю не глядя лучше, чем по физическим клавишам x1. 3. Не понравились кнопки pgup и pgdown в районе стрелок. Я бы предпочёл, чтобы они были доступны на стрелках вверх и вниз через клавишу fn. 4. Форма клавиш. Они зачем-то сделаны скруглёнными снизу. Для меня клавиатура steelseries на msi и клава на новых макбуках оказались более удобными и скоростными. 5. Огромная вилка зарядника размером с половину самого зарядника. 6. Динамики не самые лучшие. 7. Не критично, но "тест на макбук" не проходит.
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Это не полноценное ревью, а просто мои впечатления о ноуте. Выдали на работе на i7, 16gb, fullHD. Хотел ноут на винде - получил. Очень не понравились клавиатура и тачпад, а для меня это очень важно. В итоге при всей нелюбви к macOS поменял на прошку 13. Что хочу сказать, ноут за такие деньги не может быть откровенно плохим, и x1 точно неплохой. Но на мой взгляд у него слишком много недостатков для флагмана: 1. Я не понимаю, зачем нужно тащить трекпоинт из поколения в поколение. Не увидел в офисе ни одного человека, кто бы им пользовался. Вместо этого все сидели с мышками. Ради трекпоинта кнопки мыши перенесли вверх, сделали их обособленными, из-за чего уменьшили площадь тачпада. Зачем??? 2. Почему бы не сделать порт зарядки ещё и справа? 3. Большая вилка блока питания и толстый провод от вилки до блока. Почему бы не сделать как в макбуках?
3 года назадМосква
Комментарий 104774518
1. Вот вы не понимаете зачем нужен TrackPoint, а миллионы пользователей ThinkPad за пределами вашего офиса скажут очень даже понимают)) Более того, этот тензометрический джойстик - своеобразный "триггер", когда при выборе ноутбука смотрят на его наличие и принимают решение исходя из этого)) На устройствах ThinkPad он появился первым в истории мирового «ноутбукостроения» в 1990-х, стал неотъемлемой частью и успешно эволюционировал с тех пор. Неужели вы думаете, что Lenovo просто так возьмет и зарежет эту «золотую корову»? Со своей стороны скажу, что некоторое время назад перешел на TrackPoint в мобильном профиле работы, понял всю его прелесть и обратно на TouchPad вряд ли вернусь)) Правда в «настольном» режиме мне удобнее с мышкой) 2. Конфигурация «порта зарядки» реализована не просто так, два Type-C (включая «зарядный») рядом + проприетарный коннектор Ethernet (для переходника) нужны для коннекта с фирменной док-станцией. Ну а сразу с тремя Type-C я «синкпадов» пока не видел)) Двух таких портов вполне достаточно! 3. Здесь согласен полностью, в 2021 году это анахронизм и явное желание сэкономить на пользователях, т.к. во всех смыслах портативная зарядка (блок и вилка в одном) есть теперь и у Lenovo (в прошлом году выпустили) думаю, через пару лет будут класть в комплект к «синкпадам»)) В вашем отзыве очень много претензий к клавиатуре и расположению клавиш, из чего делаю вывод, что клава «макбуков» вам ближе)) так зачем мучать себя, возвращайтесь к «яблокам» и все будет ОК)) Для справки: клавиатура TninkPad уже много лет во всем мире признана экспертами и пользователями одной из лучших (если не лучшей) для ноутбуков на Windows))
1. Вот вы не понимаете зачем нужен TrackPoint, а миллионы пользователей ThinkPad за пределами вашего офиса скажут очень даже понимают)) Более того, этот тензометрический джойстик - своеобразный "триггер", когда при выборе ноутбука смотрят на его наличие и принимают решение исходя из этого)) На устройствах ThinkPad он появился первым в истории мирового «ноутбукостроения» в 1990-х, стал неотъемлемой частью и успешно эволюционировал с тех пор. Неужели вы думаете, что Lenovo просто так возьмет и зарежет эту «золотую корову»? Со своей стороны скажу, что некоторое время назад перешел на TrackPoint в мобильном профиле работы, понял всю его прелесть и обратно на TouchPad вряд ли вернусь)) Правда в «настольном» режиме мне удобнее с мышкой) 2. Конфигурация «порта зарядки» реализована не просто так, два Type-C (включая «зарядный») рядом + проприетарный коннектор Ethernet (для переходника) нужны для коннекта с фирменной док-станцией. Ну а сразу с тремя Type-C я «синкпадов» пока не видел)) Двух таких портов вполне достаточно! 3. Здесь согласен полностью, в 2021 году это анахронизм и явное желание сэкономить на пользователях, т.к. во всех смыслах портативная зарядка (блок и вилка в одном) есть теперь и у Lenovo (в прошлом году выпустили) думаю, через пару лет будут класть в комплект к «синкпадам»)) В вашем отзыве очень много претензий к клавиатуре и расположению клавиш, из чего делаю вывод, что клава «макбуков» вам ближе)) так зачем мучать себя, возвращайтесь к «яблокам» и все будет ОК)) Для справки: клавиатура TninkPad уже много лет во всем мире признана экспертами и пользователями одной из лучших (если не лучшей) для ноутбуков на Windows))
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