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если снег рыхлый, то все он ваш , пробуксовка и зарываешься,
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ребята у меня новый вито, езжу на резине ШИНЫ Michelin X Ice проблем нет ни каких , скорость держит в любой погоде ,обгоняю без страха куда то влитеть производство испания, но в данный сезон не было этой модели и взял А4 и офигел встал у себя в переулке , позор
Главное-Тишина. Именно так, с Большой буквы. На моей 1-й а/м были Аlpin A3 - эти шины приводили меня в настоящий восторг! Тихие, мягкие, прекрасно держали дорогу и в дождь, и в снег, и по льду. Да-да, премного уважаемые любители шипов, - по льду тормозили прекрасно!(разгонялись по льду правда похуже). Так вот тормозные характеристики A4 испытать пока не пришлось, но если это будет как на А3-это будет просто замечательно(на сайте Мишлен пишут про сокращение тормозного пути по сравнению с А3 - проверю-напишу). Итак 19.11.2011 состоялся пробег Москва-Казань. В Москве начался снег с дождём, в Нижнем снег валом, далее всё замёрзло:снежно-ледяная каша, укатанный снег, лёд, лёд шашечками, сугробы на обочине-всего было в избытке. Вердикт: А4 выдержали все испытания. Шипы теперь мне точно не нужны Нигде и Никогда (Моё частное мнение).
Недостатки:
Трудно найти. В смысле в наличии-потратил 2 дня на поиски, но слава Богу нашёл за 3800р Привезли правда 2 колеса made in Germany, 2 - made in Spain, ну думаю это не проблема.
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Езжу по Москве. Первый опыт исп-я зимних шин, как я уже говорил был удачный А3 - шины, приводили в восторг, 2-й раз пришлось взять Nokian R-тоже нешипованную - шины среднего уровня и по шуму и по торможению(шла в подарок). 3-й раз Чёрт меня дёрнул(коллеги посоветовали) взять Хаккапелитту 5. Эта шина Очень хороша по грунту, накатанному льду, снежной каше-но где в Москве всё это найти? Проездил я на ней ровно 5 дней-по сухому и мокрому асфальту-машину словно подменили! Раньше я такой шум слышал только в УРАЛе 4320, армейском грузовике, когда учился в автошколе ДОСАФ. Реально, мои изнеженные Мишленом уши пришлось затыкать бирушами-музыку стало слушать невозможно, как будто к машине прицепили борону, которая скребёт асфальт! После 2-х дней поисков поставил А4 (А3 уже не продают) трудно поверить что это тот же автомобиль! Шум реально ниже чем на штатной летней!
Очень тихая на асфальте
Неплохо управляется в поворотах
Не реагирует на колею
Недостатки:
Работает как зимняя резина не во всех температурных диапазонах.
Комментарий:
Резину получили с электромобилем, который прибыл из Европы, в межсезонье показывала себя отличным образом очень тихая на сухом асфальте, достаточно неплохая в поворотах.
Но с первыми заморозками она перестала работать от слова совсем.
Лед, снег, промороженный асфальт, лампочка о пробуксовке и треск АБС просто не прекращают работать. В поворотах машину сносит, траекторию не держит. Ездить просто опасно.
Да, резина не новая и износ уже порядка 50-60% но все равно на столько плохо быть не должно. У меня были фрикционки с критическим износом (3-4 мм) но держали они лучше в разы.
В итоге приняли решение продать ее нафиг и купить нормальную фрикционку для скандинавских зим.
Добавлю, что с выпаданием большого количества снега шина стала показывать себя получше и разгон/торможение/управляемость на рыхлом снегу в целом неплохое. В целом в условиях московской зимы ездить можно, но так как ездит жена все же заменил колеса на Контики Викинг контакт 7
Умираю от смеха!!!
Эти шины направленые, у вас не правильно одеты на колеса покрышки.
Срочно перебортировать.
У меня стоят такиеже покрышки. Аж 2013 г. В. И до сих пор езжу. Отличные шины!
Умираю от смеха!!!
Эти шины направленые, у вас не правильно одеты на колеса покрышки.
Срочно перебортировать.
У меня стоят такиеже покрышки. Аж 2013 г. В. И до сих пор езжу. Отличные шины!
Официальный представитель компании MICHELIN в России
Anton Shalin, спасибо, что поделились отзывом о шинах MICHELIN! Судя по приложенным снимкам, шины установлены неправильно. При установке шин с направленным типом рисунка необходимо строго придерживаться положения предписанного производителем шин (направление вращения колеса указано стрелкой на боковине шины). От этого зависит показатели шины при вождении.
Anton Shalin, спасибо, что поделились отзывом о шинах MICHELIN! Судя по приложенным снимкам, шины установлены неправильно. При установке шин с направленным типом рисунка необходимо строго придерживаться положения предписанного производителем шин (направление вращения колеса указано стрелкой на боковине шины). От этого зависит показатели шины при вождении.
Мягкая, тихая, сбалансированная шина! Отлично ведет себя на мощных авто!
Недостатки:
Когда снега много совсем - лучше шипы, но наверное это нормально для липучки)
Комментарий:
Отличная шина для городской зимы, причем чем мощнее авто - тем сильнее разница, сравнивая с другой липучкой! Многие друзья используют только ее на машинах от киа до 911-го) Разница в цене небольшая, но безопасность = бесценно!
Очень тихая и мягкая. Её практически не слышно, даже на шершавом асфальте.
Недостатки:
На этих шинах автомобиль стал хуже держать заданную траекторию на высоких скоростях. Хотя требовать от зимней резины с мягким составом чёткой управляемости, не совсем корректно.
Комментарий:
Вот почитал отзывы, и удивило меня, то что люди, купив шину предназначенную для мягких европейских зим, хотят получить от неё то, что свойственно для шин скандинавского типа! Прежде чем приобретать зимние шины, нужно хотя бы разобраться в их классификации и предназначении. Лично меня эти шины устраивают, так как живу на юге. Используются на автомобиле Шкода Октавия А7 в размерности 205* 55*16. И в сырую, слякотную погоду,(дождь, мокрый снег, снежная каша) данная модель себя зарекомендовала себя отлично! За всю календарную зиму, настоящая зима (снег, гололёд на дороге) продержалась около недели, но и тут я не ощутил особого дискомфорта, хотя конечно ещё помогали "электронные помощники": ESC включающая в себя ABS, распределение тормозных усилий, антибукс, и.т.д. Вообще считаю, что помимо хорошей резины, нужно ещё иметь и голову на плечах, и ни когда не переоценивать свои навыки и возможности автомобиля!
Использовал эту зиму доволен правда покупал испанский мишелен на заказ (не питерский)в городу супер на трассе отлично проехал от Питера до Воронежа в марте...и на льду и в рухлом снегу, есть уверенность в резине...а во время прошедших снегопадов вообщее не ожидал выезжал из рыхлого снега глубиной под 15 см правда у меня дизель низкие обороты и мощь...в букс не срывается...Доволен на все 100%
Очень низкий шум
Отличное сцепление со снегом
Прекрасная управляемость и малый тормозной путь на асфальте
Недостатки:
Очень слабые боковины
Плохие сцепные свойства на льду
Комментарий:
Долго выбирал резину без шипов по оптимальному соотношению цена/качество
До этого всегда использовал только шипы, в этот раз без шипов выбирал по причине необходимости поездки в Европу зимой. Резина удачно отходила всю зиму безо всяких нареканий, однако в апреле, ровно за неделю до переобувки на небольшой скорости неудачно "поймал" узкую и глубокую ямку на скорости около 60 км/ч. Итог печален - разрыв боковины - шина спустила за долю секунды и восстановлению не подлежит. В оправдание хочу сказать, что не уверен, что в такой яме выдержала бы и другая шина, однако на другой скорее всего выскочила бы грыжа, которая все-таки намного безопаснее с точки зрения потери управляемости на большой скорости... В общем за все остальное одни плюсы, но за разрыв минус два балла.
Вполне адекватная резина, и на снегу, и на льду, и на каше держит великолепно. Как раз для Москвы и области.
Недостатки:
Шумит немного сильнее, чем летняя, у меня conti sport2-гамно такое (покупал вместе с машиной). На А4 чувствую себя намного уверенней.
Комментарий:
Езжу на А4 вторую зиму. Не хочу повторяться, но зимой надо менять стиль вождения однозначно. Если не гарцевать, то резина цепляется за что угодно. В противном случае спасает ABS, ESP и прочие навороты. Но и после срабатывания ентих примочек машина уверенно встает на курс.
Прекрасно ведет себя на грязи, великолепная мягкость и тихость. Реально же можно использовать при температуре от +4 и выше. В снегу забивается и ведет себя как лысая. На льду ни тронуться, ни затормозить нормально не получается, при пробуксовке в бока сильно кидает.
Купили машину с такой резиной из Европы, думали конкретно зимняя, с первым снегопадом и гололедицей ахнули, ведет себя как летняя
Купили машину с такой резиной из Европы, думали конкретно зимняя, с первым снегопадом и гололедицей ахнули, ведет себя как летняя
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