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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
1) цена, 2) позиционирование звуков в пространстве, 3)достаточно настроек для не очень искушенного слушателя. Ровная АЧХ, неплохая динамика. Музыку вполне слушать можно, главное чтобы музыка была качественно записана и оцифрована. Слушал Pink Floyd во flac - очень даже приятно звучит, а в mp3 уже не так приятно. можно сказать, что заметил разницу между сжатым и не сжатым аудио, первое что пришло на ум при перекрестном прослушивании - нет глубины сцены в mp3. После этого полез в интернет, чтобы узнать мнения аудиофилов, в чем они видят различие между сжатым и не сжатым - они тоже оказалось ощущают разницу в сжатой (или в отсутствии) звуковой сцены у mp3.
Недостатки:
за такую цену наверное их нет. Есть один не очень приятный момент. У меня комп подключен к нему по HDMI, когда я переключаю источники на ресивере или входные каналы на телеке, у меня монитор на компе перемаргивает. Хотя думаю это со всеми ресиверами так будет. А еще, после обновления драйвера видеокарты (нвидии) при выключенном телеке звук с компа не идет, но если телек включить, а потом выключить, то звук будет.
Комментарий:
не вижу большого смысла покупать для дома более дорогой ресивер и очень дорогие колонки к нему. Далеко не каждый может в квартире устроить настоящий домашний кинотеатр, убрать лишнюю мебель, сделать нужную звукоизоляцию, установить колонки на специальные подставки на 1500$, соединить дорогущими проводами по 100$ за метр. При этом надо еще иметь большую площадь помещения, чтобы колонки широко расставить... А поскольку я, например, смотрю кино в жилой комнате 28м2, из которой не могу выкинуть лишнюю мебель и тд. и тп. вообще не вижу смысла выкидывать 30 тыщ на ресивер а 50 на акустику, т.к. все равно не смогу дать раскрыться такому оборудованию.
12 лет назад
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
- Больше всего понравился блок питания 415вт, ну вот сами подумайте если на других всего около 115вт, то как у них получается по 100вт на выходе? У Пионера больше нa правду похоже, если потребляет 415, то и на выходе в 4 раза выше чем у других, даже если и не нужна такая мощь, то ресивер не захлебывается и играет очень прекрасно. - еще понравился режим Авто определения, нажал одну кнопку и он сам все сделал, сам распознал аудио кодек, так понравилось очень простое включение псевдо 5.1 тоже одну кнопку нажали и все 5.1 из обычного стерео. - удобные настройки усиления колонок по каналам, например если правая передняя дальше стоит мы ее громче делаем и звук выравнивается. - Очень поразил тюнер АМ, я никогда раньше не ловил эти волны, не на магнитоле, не на других устройствах, а ресивер поймал несколько радио станций на свою антенну, правда из всей этой кучи только одна станция была на русском. - Звук чистый, если хорошая запись, нету безумного баса, бас мягенький, верха ухо не режут, звук приятный, хотя скажу честно акустика у меня не из дорогих, но и на такой акустике этот ресивер сделал многое, середина на месте, ям нету, все звучит очень классно, я даже не настраивал басы и ... TRE (не знаю как оно переводится) все по нулям поставил, кстати на пульте кнопки сразу вынесены.
Недостатки:
Наверно слишком много всяких режимов, драма, поп/рок, объем итп Не понравилось что когда комп в ХДМИ втыкаешь сбиваются иконки и он моргает. (как видите недостатков не нашел, так мелочи)
Комментарий:
В общем на 8000-9000 думаю лучший вариант, с таким блоком питания и сбалансированным звуком найти что-то другое не реально.
12 лет назад
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Случайно купил комплект, этот ресивер и 5.0 акустика Attitude (фронт по 120 ватт) за 9500р!!! Сменил свою аккустику BBK с мощностью по 25 ватт в колонках ))) Разница ощутима, звук чистый!
Недостатки:
не могу понять почему громкость на 65, далее не идет, когда принес было на 80... что-то наковырял
Год назадДолгопрудный
Пользователь удален
Достоинства:
Качественно, красиво, стильно. Добавить или убавить НЧ или ВЧ без проблем всё на пульте, не то, что на Яхе и на дорогих типа пристижных ресах. А что внутри? Внутри всё тоже самое, что и в 821 и в 921 и во всех последующих моделях. Правда начиная с 821 модели можно к ресу подключить iPhone или iPod...!!!Хотелось бы конечно ещё и кофеварку и микроволновку подключить до кучи.
Недостатки:
Цена конечно же не привлекает. Для Москвы конечно это копейки, а в нашей ДЕРЕВНЕ купил Pioneer VSX-421 только я один. Теперь вся деревня бухать ходит ко мне.
Комментарий:
Радует всё, в особенности то, что по сравнению с предыдущей серией Pioneer-ы применили более мощные дроссели на БП и обновили логическую интегральную состовляющую, радует также качественный оптоволоконный монтаж, стало заметно меньше дискретных элементов.Bluetooth!!! Чёрт, вот,вот оно...Круто,круто, крутиссимо! Жаль только в 421 модели его нет! Без него вечером скучно. Bluetooth для ресивера вещь просто необходимая а главное, практически незаменимая ничем функция! Но пусть этим наслаждаются толстосумы покупающие престижные типа модели и пользуются, если у них хватит для этого мозгов. Теперь ждём адекватного ответа Pioneer-ам от Ямахи.
12 лет назад
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
1. Дизайн, Качество сборки, Качество ЗВУКА!!! 2. Куча разьемов (поддержка HD3D HDMA 1.4b и ОПТИКИ) 3. Поддержка большого количества кодеков (форматов) 4. Ничего лишнего на передней панели НЕТ! 5. Лучшее сочитание качества и цены
Недостатки:
Минимальная частота среза на каналы 50Гц (хорошо) НО нехватает 30Гц и 20Гц (мелоч в принцепе, но мне нужна)
Комментарий:
Этот девайс я подключал к компьютеру через HDMA (с видеокарты) и ОПТИКУ(реалтек ALC889 ) При первом же включении, я просто не узнал звук: кристально чистый и детализированный звук . Никакого цыканья, ни каких искажений (ШИКАРНО!!!) При наличии хороших мониторов и качественной записи, вы получите прекрасный звук. Подключил 5 мониторов 50Ват на канал (30Гц-25000Гц) Sven Royal 2R Зафиксированы в подвешанном состоянии =D Я в РАЮ!!! Какой Саббуфер? НЕТ никакого саббуфера и не планируется, все и так в ажуре (в данном случае саб просто ЛИШНИЙ)
11 лет назадКрасноярск
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Сочный звук, масса настроек, удобный пульт и что еще хочу заметить, очень радует дальность его действия. Так же выход наушников имеет приличный коэффициент усиления, на наушниках Sennheiser HD 202 вполне достаточно громкости 40 из 80 возможных.
Недостатки:
из недостатков отмечу то, что подключать сабвуфер можно только активный... и при работе 5 мин на 90% своей мощности перегревается, можно, конечно, исправить добавив пару куллеров
Комментарий:
Брал на замену Радиотехника У-101, для подключения к компьютеру, работает в паре с четырьмя колонками Радиотехника S-90, подключен по S/PDiF. Приятно удивлен. Четкие, хорошие верха, при правильной настройке колонки и без саба отлично выдают НЧ... Стоит своих денег, покупал в Августе 2012 за 7600. Пока нареканий нет, надеюсь и не будет)) Играет в радость мне и соседям
11 лет назад
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Отличнейшая штука за свои деньги. Ребят, если у вас руки растут откуда надо - можно сэкономить на функции автонастройки (которая идет вместе с 520 и 521 пионерами). Хорошее качество звука (от 521 различий по звуку я не услышал), мощный блок питания - можно подрубить акустику по-мощнее По сравнению с ямой 371 выглядит солидней.
Недостатки:
немного высоковат по размерам...не влез в телевизионную тумбу
Комментарий:
Отличная штука за небольшие деньги. Выбирал очень долго, думал или яму 371, или пионер 520, 521...но в "начальном" классе ресиверы практически равны (не считая мелких феничек, за которые вы захотите платить или нет - решать вам) Очень сбалансированное решение.
12 лет назад
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Дизайн, простота использования и настройки, мощный блок питания, HDMI, 3D, ЦЕНА!!!
Недостатки:
Подключение каналов центра и тылов на зажимах, нет авто настройки частоты каналов, но есть вручную.
Комментарий:
Обладает всеми звуковыми хар-ми, что и старшие братья, но без примочек (синий зуб, интернет радио, управление с ipod и т.д) Покупкой очень доволен в связке с Monitor Audio br6 звук очень детальный
11 лет назад
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Великолепный, качественный ресивер за эти деньги для комнаты 3,5*7. Использую для проигрывания bluray, xbox, медиаплеера. Понравилось несколько входов HDMI, лего переключается между проигрывателями, все логично - с пионерами так всегда, поэтому твердая 5+
Недостатки:
Нехватает настройки частоты по каналам, но думаю за эти деньги логично понять, что их нет. Эквалайзер есть только, но общий звук. Но его в принципе достаточно.
Комментарий:
Хорошая штука, за небольшие деньги.
12 лет назад
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
мне очень понравился этот ресивер. Множество входов, три входа HDMI, два коаксиальных цифровых, три компонентных видео, почти все кодеки какие есть, одним словом всего хватает. И все это за небольшие деньги. звук чистый но внятный и отрывистый.
Недостатки:
Лично мне не хватило еще одного HDMI на вход, ну ладно, пока перетыкаю.
Комментарий:
совершенно беспроблемный аппарат, установил за десять минут.
12 лет назад
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