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Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Отличный контроль баса.
Недостатки:
Нет
Комментарий:
Комната 11м.слушаю музыку через ресивер denon avr3313 и настенные колонки canton vento 810.баса было около нуля.изучил тему подключения саба.народ хвалит рел и неспроста.подключил саб по высокому уровню,как и советуют.звук стал просто бомбическим.бас быстрый и четкий без намека на гудеж.на ресивере убрал тембр нч в ноль,регулировка только сабом.слушаю металл.
4 года назадКолычёво
Увеличить
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Отличный музыкальный саб. Очень понравилась его артикулированность. Красивый, маленький и мощный (для своего позиционирования)
Недостатки:
Очевидно цена. Самодельный стоил бы в разы меньше и играл ни хуже. Ручка кроссовера заедает. Как будто ей там что то трет и мешает двигаться. Брак замечался не только у меня судя по отзывам. И это не большая проблема, но не приятно. Прорезиненные накладки на ножки отвалились потому как двигаю его постоянно. Он мне еще и подставка для ног. Агак
Комментарий:
Настройка собственно Саб музыкальный ЗЯ (закрытый ящик) т.е. быстро отрабатывает бас партии. Соответственно не будет кинотеатрального БУХАЛА до дрожи костей, но отрабатывает свои полномочии на уровне. Таких четких и панчевых бочек еще не слышал) Играет от 38Гц. Не забываем про помещение (чекаем в инете "Акустика помещения") а то бас будет шо твоя фирменная подлива. Особенно тема про стоячие волны 1. Сшиваем с акустикой. Надо узнать с какой частоты играют ваши эзотерические, мега аудиофильские, стоящее как чугунный мост колонки. Качаем прогу audioTester v1.4. Выключаем саб , щелкАем в проге Frequency Generator, жмАкаем start + Sin. Прослушиваем с примерно 35 герц, идем выше и выше пока не дойдете до нормальной громкости. Т.е громкость увеличивается постепенно, а потом она когда будто выйдет на свой уровень. У меня castle knight 1. В характеристиках написали играют от 45 а на деле от 120. 2. Фазаааа.....Противофазааа. Акустика + саб. Громкость саба на 12 часов, кроссовер до предела. Включаем ваш бас контрабас и переключаем фазу туда обратно 0 - 180. Где баса больше та фаза и нужна. Узнал недавно что звуковые волны могут гасить друг друга если они встречаются в противофазе. В castle knight 1 нарастание звука ощутимо с 80-90гц и соответственно с неправильной фазой эти частоты глушатся. Там конечно всё посложней но примерно так. 3.Подбираем на слух. Сабвуфер. Громкость 0, кроссовер 0. Вкл ваш басовый трек и поднимаем громкость саба до уровня когда на слух саб играет по громкости как колонки. Саб не должен выделятся. Он же музыкальный. Он должОн продлевать диапазон вниз. Далее поднимаем кроссовер до уровня когда музыка слегка перенасытится басом и чуток прибираем кроссовер в зад до приемлемого уровня. Так написали в мануале к сабу, но без пункта 1 и 2 не использовать. Расположение. Не знаю. У меня под столом Саб огонь для комнаты до 18 кв.м, играет от 38гц. Надо ниже смотрите что то другое
4 года назадМосква
Достоинства:
Звук, размер, дизайн, варианты подключения.
Недостатки:
Слишком маркий корпус
Комментарий:
На комнату до 13 метров 👍🏻 В связке с Ротел и Бивнями играет хорошо.
Год назадМосква
Достоинства:
Звучание. Возможность высокоуровневого подключения. Возможности настройки согласования саба и основной акустики. Небольшие габариты. Нетребовательность к размещению. Лакированный кубик.
Недостатки:
Разве что цена.
Комментарий:
Подробности уже вполне качественно расписали другие комментаторы. Добавить особо нечего. Это просто очень музыкальный сабвуфер для небольшого помещения. Испольую с DALI Oberon 1 для прослушивания музыки.
4 года назадМосква
Комментарий 104556944
Здравствуйте а сколько квадратных метров комната?
Здравствуйте а сколько квадратных метров комната?
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
реально музыкальный саб
Недостатки:
маловат :) Для комнаты 15-16 квадратов хватает
Комментарий:
Подключил как по инструкции - вход высокого уровня (на левый и правый каналы ресивера) а также .1 (у меня есть втоой pre out выход на ресивере). Замечательно играет - контабас, бас гитара, барабаны - как вновь услышал. Второй саб (чисто LFE киношный pioneer теперь выключаю, когда музыку слушаю).
7 лет назадСимферополь
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несколько месяцев
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Динамичный, артикулированный, мягкий, глубокий басс. Сабвуфер отлично дополнит акустику со слабым басом в стереопаре.
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Не нашел.
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По разным причинам (связанных со звуком и не связанных) при выборе стерео системы преследовал идею дополнить полочную акустику сабвуфером. Консультант магазина сразу обратил мое внимание на две марки Rel и Velodyne, и предложил Velodyne Impact 10. После недели прослушивания понял, что Impact 10 - неплохое начало для домашнего кинотеатра, но не для музыки. К счастью, удалось поменять на Rel T-Zero. С первых минут с радостью осознал, что это он - сабвуфер, который я искал. Для музыки недостатка глубины баса не чувствую, как и недостатка по мощности. Динамичный, как любят говорить, артикулированный бас, достаточно мягкий и глубокий. Использую вместе с DALI Lektor 2 и Onkyo TX-8020. Звуком доволен. P.S. Странно, что нет ни одного отзыва...
10 лет назадМосква
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менее месяца
Достоинства:
исключительно мягкий, динамичный, деликатный и приятный для слуха бас. Превосходный дизайн и качество изготовления.
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не отмечено
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на мой взгляд, чисто музыкальный саб с отличным ненавязчивым и естественным звучанием, очень хорошо дополняет небольшие полочные АС (Dali Lektor 2 + Marantz M-CR610). На первое место производитель не случайно ставит высокоуровневый вход напрямую от колоночного выхода стереоусилителя с помощью фирменного разъема и кабеля. Для кинотеатра с LFE будет маловат и слабоват (16 см динамик направлен в пол, внешне - небольшой кубик со стороной всего 22-24 см), взрывы и выстрелы не для него. Приобрел, кстати, во многом благодаря автору первого отзыва от 12.04, за что ему отдельное спасибо.
9 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
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несколько месяцев
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Музыкальность
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Спасибо авторам предыдущих отзывов - заставили повнимательнее обратить внимание на этого малыша. В итоге не прогадал. Прекрасный музыкальный саб. Отлично вписался в существующую систему: Denon 720 + Castle Knight 1.
7 лет назадЕкатеринбург
Комментарий 102488181
У меня такая же связка Denon 720 + Castle Knight 1 + Rel T Zero. Castle Knight 1 акустика не понравилась. Играют может и приемлемо, но реально они начинают играть только от 120 hz хоть и написано 45. Соответственно ручку частоты среза кроссовера выкручиваю на 3 часа примерно. Кстати на сабе фаза у меня на 180 стоит. Думал на 0 призвуков меньше, а на 180 подгуживает почему то, а потом понял ( после прочтения определенной темы) что это звуковая волна гасит друг друга и звуки пропадают на определенных частотах. Короче где больше баса ту фазу и надо оставлять.
У меня такая же связка Denon 720 + Castle Knight 1 + Rel T Zero. Castle Knight 1 акустика не понравилась. Играют может и приемлемо, но реально они начинают играть только от 120 hz хоть и написано 45. Соответственно ручку частоты среза кроссовера выкручиваю на 3 часа примерно. Кстати на сабе фаза у меня на 180 стоит. Думал на 0 призвуков меньше, а на 180 подгуживает почему то, а потом понял ( после прочтения определенной темы) что это звуковая волна гасит друг друга и звуки пропадают на определенных частотах. Короче где больше баса ту фазу и надо оставлять.
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По звуку сабвуфер музыкальный,бас быстрый,чёткий,хорошо прорисованный,правильный бас закрытого ящика. На мой взгляд у него басы не хуже дешёвых больших ящиков не музыкально бухтящих на низах,хоть и чуть ниже по диапазону(у больших). Маленький музыкальный сабвуфер может быть лучше большого медленно и невыразительно бухтящего,гудящего ящика(я это давно знаю). Каких либо отрицательных моментов в звуке REL T-Zero(гул,жестковатость,резонансы и т.п.) я не услышала,звук бархатистый,не жёсткий,без признаков гудения. Вообще общий звук системы и акустики стал более насыщенным,красочным,хотя на фронтах стоят Heco Aurora 300 c весьма динамичным,сильным превосходным басом.Не сказала бы что он маленький играет сильно глубже,чем Aurora 300,тем не менее бас с ним стал лучше структурирован,прорисован,к тому же Marantz M-CR611 от которого они все работают имеет менее напористый бас,а собственный усилитель сабвуфера делает бас более динамичным. Внешне сабвуфер выглядит как очень хорошая вещь.
Недостатки:
Цена завышена на 38% в Англии он стоит сейчас 349 фунтов(около 28500руб),а у нас сейчас 39500руб. Автовключение как и у многих сабвуферов включается с относительно высокой громкости(=11 на Marantz M-CR611,это где-то уровень довольно громкого голоса). В общем-то дальше не недостатки,а конструктивные особенности-немного не хватает широты и масштабности звука,он играет "внутри" не стремится порвать комнату,думаю 18 метров помещения для него максимум. Конечно из-за небольших размеров бас не столь глубокий(т.е.нижний),как у больших собратьев. Очень могучего сильного баса(так что стены вибрируют) нет. Слишком уж он глянцевый любая пылинка прилипает и на моём чёрном сразу видна каждая пылинка,но красив. Конечно если нужен очень могучий широкий,глубокий бас сотрясающий стены нужен сабвуфер этого или выше класса больше по размеру.Большие сабвуферы 10-15тыс ценой играют...не лучше T-Zero,у них бас чуть поглубже,но они бухтят чего-то невыразительно,а сделать их погромче так вообще искажения,гул.Можно купить старшую модель Rel T5i,T7i,но мне захотелось маленький сабвуфер,я его поставила на старый в общем-то неплохой сабвуфер Harman/Kardon. На моём экземляре не очень плавно,туговато и с рывками ручка кроссовера поворачивается,остальные крутилки плавны и приятны.
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Как такой небольшой ящичек может весить 6,8кг непонятно,он почти как гиря,усилитель класса D обычно не тяжелый,думаю там мощные магниты и корпус весьма хорош. В комплекте только кабель высокоуровнего подключения. Также в комплекте кабель питания с евровилкой,инструкция на английском языке. Сабвуферного кабеля RCA в комплекте нет. Яркий голубой светодиод включения на задней панели,где всякие ручки-крутилки,по голубому цвету освещающему предметы сзади сабвуфера видно,что он включён. Рычажок Energy Saver(автовключение-выключение) при его включении сабвуфер сам уходит в спящий режим через 15 минут отсутствия сигнала и включается при поступлении достаточно громкого сигнала. Снизу на ножках резиновые подкладки приклеены. Небольшой,можно не только на пол,но и на какую-нибудь плотно стоящую тумбу,полку пристроить сабвуфер при недостатке места.
4 года назадСанкт-Петербург
Комментарий 150314298
скажите пожалуйста, а кабель питания какой длины?
скажите пожалуйста, а кабель питания какой длины?
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Понравился звук при небольших размерах короба. Комната 20 кв. подключен по кабелю, который идет в комплекте. Ручка среза частоты на 12 часов, громкость на 10 часов. Рекомендуют и размещен в углу. Очень удобно - нет лишнего "ящика" посреди комнаты. Другие сабы искажают звук при размещении около стены. Нет "буханья" в соседних комнатах и у соседей, басы остаются в комнате. Басы очень комфортные. Изготовлен аккуратно.
Недостатки:
При входе саба в спящий режим индикатор не меняет свечение. Подключен по высокоуровневому кабелю. При выключении ресивера "yamaha rx-v457" появляется слабый 50Гц гул. При включении ресивера гул пропадает. Из-за гула в режим автоотключения не входит. Гул есть и при просто подключенном кабеле без подключения к ресиверу. Одна из нижних ножек не притянута к коробу, немного болтается. Подсоелинение кабеля при таком размере смотрится громоздко. Высокоуровневый кабель лишь по названию кабель. Это всего лишь трехжильный провод(даже не экранированный) с одной стороны имеющий специальный разъем. Автовыключение не работает из-за гула, выключаю-включаю вручную.
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Куплен для музыки. Ожидания оправдал. Колонки Cortland STH-5000 заиграли при небольшой громкости. Стоит в углу комнаты за креслом. Звук распостраняется вдоль стены(может кресло мешает распостранею звука по всей комнате равномерно). Внурти комнаты бас слабее. Под новое место прослушивания громкость саба необходимо подстраивать. Громкость саба приходится уменьшать и при увеличении громкости, начинают звучать фронтальные колонки. Мне хватает - слушаю лежа на диване или в кресле в другом углу около этой стены. Когда слушаешь в углу комнаты, бас отыгрывает сильнее свего. Приятно слушать музыку на небольшой и малой громкости. Для фильмов при таком подключении тоже хватает. Комната 20 квадратов.
4 года назадВоронеж
Комментарий 103428600
у меня velodyne гудел изо китайского плохого кабеля поменял и прошло
у меня velodyne гудел изо китайского плохого кабеля поменял и прошло
Комментарий 105605868
Юрий, в разделе поддержки rel есть страница о подключении к усилителям класса D. Суть - при высокоуровневом подключении к усилителям D землю (чёрный провод) подключать к клеммам не нужно , дополнительное соединение rca (свободный на ресивере)-rca (на сабе в 1.lfe) завершает контур. Вот: https://relsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004486607-Class-D-Amp-Connection-Methods
Юрий, в разделе поддержки rel есть страница о подключении к усилителям класса D. Суть - при высокоуровневом подключении к усилителям D землю (чёрный провод) подключать к клеммам не нужно , дополнительное соединение rca (свободный на ресивере)-rca (на сабе в 1.lfe) завершает контур. Вот: https://relsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004486607-Class-D-Amp-Connection-Methods
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