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более года
Достоинства:
Хороший усилитель за свои деньги,но чуда ждать не стоит.(Хотя стоит) Глубокие НЧ (при условии см. ниже) Приятные ВЧ (при условии см. ниже) На приличной 3-х полосной акустики,будет довольно хорошо звучать в СВОЁМ классе. Соотношение сигнал-шум очень достойные. Звук приятный,как для "Транзисторного усилителя"(ламповый лучше.)!
Недостатки:
Один из недостатков это "железный звук"Ну это проблема всех транзисторных усилителей без исключений. Еще минус в том что при громкости свыше 85% тонкомпенсация уже перестаёт в принципе поднимать какие либо частоты и уравнивает их в прямую АЧХ. Увеличение НЧ и ВЧ программно,делает перегруз звука,и уже бубнят! Периодически срабатывает защита причина-загадка.(короткого визуально нет)
Комментарий:
Для этого усилителя нужны хорошие колонки,хорошая звуковая карта,и хороший источник. Я пользуюсь программой AIMP (нормализация по амплитуде +-1дб) Формат музыки только FLAC от 900kb.s!т.к. MP3 даже 320kb.s звучит на слух ощутимо хуже.А если подробнее,звуковые инструменты становятся почти не различимы.(каша и шум) В моём случаи звук становится более ДЕТАЛЬНЫМ. Звуковой картой ASUS xonar DX.Поднятые(отрегулированные) на эквалайзере НЧ и ВЧ. И старая(1981г.в.) но очень хорошая акустическая система s-90 (35АС212) В купе играет достойно.Конечно не клуб,но для квартиры за глаза и за уши. Я очень буду рад если мой отзыв Вам помог.Спасибо.=))) Видео с ютуба на 5%-8% громкости. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_6hmKN7Uzs Ввиду пополнения акустики,дописываю комментарий. Докупил еще 35ас216. Запитал уже 4 колонки от этого усилителя.Проблем почти не каких.Я даже на самом деле не ожидал что будет такой результат.Думал будут играть тихо и не глубоко,а по ощущением акустическое звучание значительно усилилось... Хотя из-за недостатка мощности конденсаторов(они на это и не были рассчитаны) уже начинает не много резать глубину НЧ.(на слух только искушенный человек заметит) Если не использовать как Сабвуфер.То очень даже хорошо играют.4шт Хотя уже Рок слушать на МОЙ слух не так комфортно. Хотя кого не звал,не кто не слышит,говорят только о лучшем звучании... Так-что могу смело сказать.Если Вы человек который умеет считать деньги,который покупает ВЕЩЬ,а не ПОНТЫ.То берите,Не пожалеете... А я этот недостаток буду решать скорее всего Конденсаторным мостом...Или еще как нибудь(по советуюсь с знакомым радио-инженером) СОВСЕМ ЗАБЫЛ ДОПОЛНИТЬ... ЕСЛИ У ВАС КОЛОНКИ 4ОМ ТО ВКЛЮЧАЙТЕ ИХ ПОСЛЕДОВАТЕЛЬНО... Вообщем дополнил отзыв,я буду очень рад если он для Вас окажется полезным.
8 лет назадВидное
Комментарий 100219211
Жирнов Станислав, поставте последовательно с колонкой резистор керамический 2.2 Ома 20 Вт и уверяю Вас защита перестанет выбивать и хрипы уйдут - тк для уся изменится нагрузочная кривая по сопротивлению Z.
Жирнов Станислав, поставте последовательно с колонкой резистор керамический 2.2 Ома 20 Вт и уверяю Вас защита перестанет выбивать и хрипы уйдут - тк для уся изменится нагрузочная кривая по сопротивлению Z.
Комментарий 101433257
Станислав, тонкомпенсация или Loudness предназначен для выравнивания звучания на малой громкости.
Станислав, тонкомпенсация или Loudness предназначен для выравнивания звучания на малой громкости.
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Цена-качество, авто выключение, возможность подключения по bi-wiring
Недостатки:
Селектор входов без четкой фиксации. Крутилки пластиковые, могли бы и раскошелится на псевдо аутентичность
Комментарий:
Купил данный девайс БУ, на временную замену доставшему своими шуршащими галетными крутилками Одиссею 010. Кто не знает что это такое - это один из двух флагманов отечественного усилителестроения времен СССР. Второй флагман это Бриг (он же Барк). Стоило это изделие почти две месячных зарплаты простого Советского человека, а в долларах по тогдашнему курсу лучше и не считать. Но вернемся к Пионеру. Работает он в паре с Monitor Audio MX5. Источники: CD Technics SL-PD867, медиаплеер на базе ODROID и ЦАП этого же Корейского производителя. Есть еще проигрыватель винила, но с ним Пионер не удалось потестить, потому что еще не приехал из Германии новый картридж. По сути вся система это бюджетный HiFi, приверженцем которого я и являюсь. Так вот что я вам скажу: для бюджетного HiFi данная модель очень хороша. Да, на мощный басовый БУМ у него не хватает силенок, да есть тональные дисбаланс и проблема с такими сложными для воспроизведения звуками как джазовые щетки. Но для тех, кто не готов тратить килобаксы или ковырять девайс паяльником, для тех, кто живет в панельной многоэтажке с нервными соседями, тем Пионеровский девайс подойдет отлично. В сети много жалоб на неисправности темброблока и БП. У меня темброблок выключен, а предпочитаемый контент (Hard,Jazz, немного камерной классики и т.д.) с громкостью 25-40% не очень сильно нагружают БП. Если включить "Лада седан", да тонкомпенсацию, да давануть мощи... Может чего и сгорит. Но вероятность получить в дыню от соседей выше. В общем кто собрался покупать, покупайте. Свои: 250$ данный усь отрабатывает полностью.
8 лет назадМагнитогорск
Комментарий 102672037
К нему виниловый проигрыватель подключить можно, без проблем? Или надо быть хакером?
К нему виниловый проигрыватель подключить можно, без проблем? Или надо быть хакером?
Имя скрыто
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Звук магический, хочется слушать, притягивает, не хочется уходить.
Недостатки:
Крутелки нч/вч портят звук, самое лучшее дефолтное положение посередине, скажу честно трогать их и не придется
Комментарий:
Слушаю с колонками JBL Studio 280, звук фантастический. Высокие, средние, низкие, все частоты звучат. Ощущение живой музыки дома для меня первобытно. Все жанры музыки играет отменно. Громкости для комнаты 40 кв.м2 хватает за глаза. На паузе присутствует едва уловимое шипение, говорят убирается заземлением. Искажения возникают при полной громкости в винде, видимо проблема звуковой карты. На полной громкости усилителя и средней в винде драйв захватывает. Сравнивали с Cambridge Audio 351a в одной комнате, разницы в 38 тысяч не заметили, если только в худшую сторону, там высоких мало. Провода и ламповые усилители вообще не стоят внимания. Также слушал Pioneer A-50-K, но в другой обстановке на тех же колонках. Звучание очень схожее с младшей моделью, точно в другом помещении нельзя сказать. Подсветка кнопок и крутелки лакшери :) Громкость больше трети страшно крутить, похоже пионер занижает паспортные данные. Не подавайте усилителям на вход недорогие ресиверы и тп некачественные источники. Вывод: нереально классный усилитель да ещё и за такие деньги. Все недостатки сущая мелочь, даже не знаю зачем их написал :) Думаю они присущи большому числу усилителей.
9 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
1. Внешний вид 2. Количество каналов
Недостатки:
1. Отсутствие пульта
Комментарий:
Служит мне верой и правдой на протяжении 4 лет. Работает в паре с колонками Электроника 150АС. Я не аудиофил, качество звука меня более чем устраивало!
6 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Дешёвый, красивый и с разноцветными лампочками.
Недостатки:
Звук ужасный.Толстый, корпус можно было сделать в два раза тоньше- там полно места. Для тех, кто разбирается- натуральное транзисторное звучание в худшем виде. Почему? Маркетинг- это не шутки, это бизнес, не должен дешёвый усилок звучать хорошо. Не потому что не может- не должен. Иначе- зачем тогда кому- то платить больше за хороший звук? Намного больше.
Комментарий:
Рекомендую этот девайс всем, кто хочет иметь неплохой усилитель, хоть немного умеет держать паяльник, но не хочет тратить время на травление плат и изготовление корпуса. Собственно, я так и сделал. Купил за 5500. Поменял операционники NJM2068 на TL082 ( где они стоят как повторитель) и OPA2604 ( где они стоят в качестве усилителя) Я думал, на выходе УМ полевики стоят, как в предыдущей модели- нет, там дарлингтоны. Поставить вместо них полевики 2SJ162+2SK1058 ( с полевиками почти уходит транзисторный резкий оттенок в звуке) , увеличить подстроечный резистор до 2-3 к, ток покоя около 40ма. Кстати- у них он был где то 5-10ма и радиаторы- просто смех. Для усилителя 15вт- пойдут, но не 50, это просто противоречит законам физики, хоть бы кулер поставили, не удивительно, что у людей он отключается от перегрева на небольшой мощности. Корректирующие конденсаторы 330 и 33 пф убрать( улучшает быстродействие), желательно увеличить глубину ОС УМ. Можно пользоваться. Я не жалею, что купил.
10 лет назадКалуга
Комментарий 101499581
lostletter, Что господа из известного интернет магазина? Горюете, что Пионер с вами договор поставки не подписывает? Бабки мимо текут? Видать не заслужили.
lostletter, Что господа из известного интернет магазина? Горюете, что Пионер с вами договор поставки не подписывает? Бабки мимо текут? Видать не заслужили.
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Отличное звучание. Поддержка широкого диапазона импедансов. Достаточное количество входов. Автоматическое выключение.
Недостатки:
Пульта в комплекте нет. Синий светодиод в темноте начинает своей яркостью бесить — раньше Пионер такого ширпотребного вида светодиоды не ставил. Выход на наушники так себе, но за такую цену пойдет.
Комментарий:
Подключал к самодельным колонкам на основе пионеровских-же драйверов. Все время думал, что колонки получились так себе. Так нет же — после замены самодельного простенького усилителя на этот, они ожили! Бас стал четким, ярко выраженным, динамический диапазон широким, даже на низких громкостях. Верха не размазанные, середина четко проработана. Апдейт: После полутора месяцев использования пропал правый канал. При работе в режиме Direct всё на месте, предположительно проблема в плате передней панели в слайдере баланса (когда на него надавишь, канал появляется). Сдал в сервисный центр (официальный, по гарантии) — уже 45 дней не могут сделать. В следующий раз за такие же деньги буду брать что-то из конца 80х-начала 90х, а оценку качества этой модели снижу на пару пунктов, с учетом того, что до поломки регуляторы на передней панели не использовались, кроме громкости.
10 лет назадУфа
Комментарий 100144850
У пионеров из 90х проблемы с темброблоком и переключателями/крутилками те-же самые. У меня A337, читаю - как будто и 20 лет не было, все также. Видимо у них это наследственное. Финтифлюшек ненужных они накрутили, а старые болячки все никак вылечить не могут.
У пионеров из 90х проблемы с темброблоком и переключателями/крутилками те-же самые. У меня A337, читаю - как будто и 20 лет не было, все также. Видимо у них это наследственное. Финтифлюшек ненужных они накрутили, а старые болячки все никак вылечить не могут.
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Хороший. Удобный.Компактный.Сам отключается через время при отсутствии сигнала.
Недостатки:
Темброблок - отстой. У меня через полгода "умер" баланс.Слушайте на Direct. И ещё - нет дистанционки, хотя это не принципиально.
Комментарий:
За такие деньги, друзья, не надо требовать от него Hi End. Купите Саб ему в поддержку и будет вам музыка. Всем удачи и хорошей музыки!
7 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 100418257
Гуркин Андрей, Саб не нужен, басы давит так, что пришлось все на минимум выкрутить. От акустики много зависит.
Гуркин Андрей, Саб не нужен, басы давит так, что пришлось все на минимум выкрутить. От акустики много зависит.
Комментарий 100688280
Гуркин Андрей, Direct - это линейка,без тембровой окраски,нужен хороший источник,т.е сигнал и путёвые боксы!
Гуркин Андрей, Direct - это линейка,без тембровой окраски,нужен хороший источник,т.е сигнал и путёвые боксы!
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Усилитель достаточно прост, но при этом хорош для использования в квартире. С достойной акустикой показывает себя очень хорошо.
7 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Хорошее соотношение цена \ качество. Наличие необходимого минимума для построения стереосистемы. Простота подключения и управления.
Недостатки:
Считаю, что за такие деньги нет недостатков.
Комментарий:
Искал недорогой стерео-усилитель. Размер бюджета имел значение. С другой стороны хотел купить технику проверенную временем. А после того, как мне подарили DVD Pioneer, я уже определился с выбором. Купил А10. Уже немолодые колонки «Радиотехника» обрели новую жизнь. Звук чистый, четкий. Покупкой доволен.
11 лет назад
Достоинства:
Современный дизайн, яркий звук
Недостатки:
Пока не нашел
Комментарий:
Когда покупал не расчитывал при такой цене на чтото сильно хорошее, но после подключения был эффект ВАУ, колонки заиграли на порядок лучше. Покупкой доволен.
10 лет назадИваново
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