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Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Главное достоинство - отличное приготовление кофе, экспериментируем с различными сортами зёрен - супер! Пенка капучино средняя, но достаточная. Среди полностью автоматических кофемашин со встроенной кофемолкой эта самая компактная, что очень актуально для экономии места на столешнице кухни. Проста в обслуживании. Автоматически очищается.
Недостатки:
Для домашнего использования идеальный вариант, каких-то тотальных недостатков не обнаружено! При приготовлении капучино на экране пишет КАПУЧИКО! :-)
Комментарий:
Теперь пару слов из личного опыта. Открыв коробку с новой кофемашиной вы можете увидеть следы от помолотого кофе, а в статистике данные о приготовлении нескольких чашек кофе! Сначала я подумал, что подсунули уже пользованный товар! :) Не пугайтесь, выяснилось, что на заводе эти кофемашины тщательно тестируют, и дегустируют качество приготовленного кофе! Через несколько месяцев нам показалось, что машина слишком часто просит очистить себя от накипи, оказалось, иногда очень полезно читать инструкцию! ) Перед началом использования, протестируйте воду на жесткость, для этого в комплекте с машиной прилагается полоска тест жесткости воды (очень похож на тест на беременность :-)) Заводские установки машины установлены на максимальную жесткость воды! У нас оказалась средняя жесткость - два красных квадратика из четырех. Выставил в настройках нужную жесткость воды, и о чудо, машина стала в два раза реже просить очисть её от накипи. Теперь о самой очистке от накипи, опять же в инструкции всё подробно описано. Средство прилагаемое в компекте расчитано на одну очистку, найти в продаже такое же сложно, поэтому купил за 490руб. в одном известном магазине электроники аналогичное Menalux MPD4R Premium, его хватает на 4 очистки. Еще в комплекте с машиной прилагается фильтр для смягчения воды, мы им не пользуемся, этот фильтр нужен для очень жесткой воды. Его установку тоже нужно зафиксировать в настройках кофемашины. Каплесборник бысто заполяется, вместо него мы используем отдельную чашку, разумеется, кому как удобно. Вобщем, о покупке не пожалел ни разу, готовим кофе каждый день. Рекомендую. P.S. Подарил кофемашину любимой, - она в восторге! )) 2021г. Кофемашина работает отлично, готовим кофе практически каждый день. Один раз прочищали каппучинатор моющим средством, пена стала хорошей.
3 года назадМосква
Комментарий 105088352
Логотип Эксперт De'Longhi
Эксперт De'Longhi
Официальный представитель компании De'Longhi в России
Здравствуйте. Благодарим Вас за обратную связь! Мы очень рады, что Вам нравится кофемашина от De'Longhi. Спасибо за доверие и выбор. Всегда готовы Вам помочь по любому вопросу. Номер горячей линии: 8 800 200-52-62 С уважением, команда DELONGHI GROUP
Здравствуйте. Благодарим Вас за обратную связь! Мы очень рады, что Вам нравится кофемашина от De'Longhi. Спасибо за доверие и выбор. Всегда готовы Вам помочь по любому вопросу. Номер горячей линии: 8 800 200-52-62 С уважением, команда DELONGHI GROUP
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Ко всем позитивным отзывам, написанным ранее, могу добавить след.: Перед покупкой выбирал между BOSCH (честно отработал у меня в офисе 4 года как танк, приготовив немеряное кол-во чашек кофе, никаких проблем) и Delonghi (кофемашины которой мне ближе по дизайну, нежели немецкие "кубики"). Решающим фактором для принятия решения явилось то, что контейнер для воды выдвигается вперед, а не вверх. Ну и позитивные отзывы на Маркете тоже принимались в расчет. Первый опыт эксплуатации показал "плюсы": - довольно тиха; - возможно применение молотого кофе (хотя иногда она на него ругается: "слишком мелкий помол"); - простота приготовления капучино подкупает; - интерфейс понятен даже для ребенка; - хорошая комплектация (у меня в комплекте был весь набор фильтров, хоть мне они не нужны ввиду нулевой жесткости воды после водоподготовки).
Недостатки:
"Минусы": - после авто-промывки приходится вытирать поверхность, т.к. водичка иногда льется мимо дырок... (у Боша такого не было); - полированная нержавейка требует ухода. Но это - небольшая проблема; - "хобот" для подачи молока в чашку надо было сделать длиннее, чтобы совсем не было брызг; - при приготовлении капучино на экране пишет "КАПУЧИКО" )))
Комментарий:
Резюме: семья и наши гости высоко оценили девайс. Общее мнение женщин: "Ой, какая хорошенькая!". Да и напиток готовит хороший, при условии хороших зерен.. :) --- Добавление от 11.12.2018 г. После 8 лет эксплуатации - могу смело рекомендовать всем эту модель! Никаких поломок! Главное условие беспроблемной эксплуатации - регулярная очистка системы нагрева и подачи воды. Всем - приятного кофепития!!! --- Добавление от 29.03.2019 г.: Общее кол-во произведенных чашек кофе на текущий момент: более 12500 шт. Средняя себестоимость усредненной чашки кофе из зерен Lavazza Oro в килограммовых пачках (это - основной формат нашей семьи) - 6,5 - 7 руб. !!! Как говорится, мои рекомендации всем кофеманам !!!
5 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 105036650
Логотип Эксперт De'Longhi
Эксперт De'Longhi
Официальный представитель компании De'Longhi в России
Oleg E. Dvorchenko, здравствуйте. Благодарим Вас за обратную связь! Мы очень рады, что Вам нравится кофемашина от De'Longhi. Спасибо за доверие и выбор. Всегда готовы Вам помочь по любому вопросу. Номер горячей линии: 8 800 200-52-62 С уважением, команда DELONGHI GROUP
Oleg E. Dvorchenko, здравствуйте. Благодарим Вас за обратную связь! Мы очень рады, что Вам нравится кофемашина от De'Longhi. Спасибо за доверие и выбор. Всегда готовы Вам помочь по любому вопросу. Номер горячей линии: 8 800 200-52-62 С уважением, команда DELONGHI GROUP
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Не громоздкая, прекрасный дизайн ( я купил чёрного цвета), готовит очень вкусный кофе, особенно латте макиато.
Недостатки:
От цены не в восторге... Но теперь не жалею, что купил.
Комментарий:
До покупки кофе пил растворимый очень редко. Сейчас распробовал. Машина очень понравилась. Маркетил месяца 3.Всем рекомендую эту модель. Не пожалеете. PS: Пользуюсь более 2 лет. От машины в восторге. Очень вкусный и ароматный кофе. PS: На дворе 2019 год. Кофемашина, как новая. Работает исправно!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 лет назадКоломна
Комментарий 105036460
Логотип Эксперт De'Longhi
Эксперт De'Longhi
Официальный представитель компании De'Longhi в России
Александр ЧЕРНОВ, здравствуйте. Благодарим Вас за обратную связь! Мы очень рады, что Вам нравится кофемашина от De'Longhi. Спасибо за доверие и выбор. Всегда готовы Вам помочь по любому вопросу. Номер горячей линии: 8 800 200-52-62 С уважением, команда DELONGHI GROUP
Александр ЧЕРНОВ, здравствуйте. Благодарим Вас за обратную связь! Мы очень рады, что Вам нравится кофемашина от De'Longhi. Спасибо за доверие и выбор. Всегда готовы Вам помочь по любому вопросу. Номер горячей линии: 8 800 200-52-62 С уважением, команда DELONGHI GROUP
Достоинства:
Простая в управлении. Относительно компактная. Не очень шумная.
Недостатки:
Корпус легко царапается. Даже если пыль стирать . Подставка нижняя из нержавейки легко царапается как от кружки так и при регулярном извлечении емкости с водой. ( Изначально проклеил полосками изоленты. место под кружку ) Вид сильно не испортил Но царапин НЕТ.
Комментарий:
Эта первая кофемашине поэтому сравнивать несчем. Кофе вкусный. Что еще надо !
7 лет назад
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Кофе делает хороший, вкусный, ни4его не ломалось за 4 года использования.
Недостатки:
в кружку иногда попадают мелкие частицы кофе (какой бы помол не ставил)
Комментарий:
Буду краток У нас и у моих родителей данная кофе машина, в принципе всё устраивает.. ничего не ломалось "тфу тфу тфу".. взял бы 2 раз? да, наверное только хочется уже модель поновее
9 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Качество, сборка Италия (а не Китай, как кто-то писал), многофункциональность, эргономичность, итальянский дизайн и современные технологии. И конечно же, изумительный кофе на выходе!
Недостатки:
Капризная и требовательная итальянская барышня) КапучиКо радует)
Комментарий:
Кофе варит отменный, включается и выключается когда скажешь, подсветка чашек очень удобна, все сообщает вовремя. НО! Очень требовательная! Сыпать исключительно хороший и качественный кофе (никакой черной карты, жокей и т.д.). Никаких засахаренных или ароматизированных зерен. К помолу очень придирчива, немного переборщишь с мелким помолом, будет ругаться и выкидывать кофе. Что бы сделать отдельно вспененное молоко, нужно что бы кофемашина хотя бы несколько минут постояла, остыла (если перед этим делали любой напиток на основе молока), иначе не будет делать. Обязательные автоматические ополаскивания при включении, выключении. Все это сделано лишь для того, что бы машина прослужила как можно дольше и приготовленный кофе не утрачивал свой вкус. Этого не стоит бояться, к этому стоит привыкнуть и относиться как к должному. Еще совет, если после приготовления кофе, делать в ближайший час добавку не планируете, включайте ополаскивание вручную, на кнопку, так кофейные масла не будут копиться внутри, а кофе всегда будет вкусным и ароматным. Так же, не забывайте чистить ее хотя бы раз в месяц внутри, споласкивать варочный блок, ну и само собой, контейнер для молока, поддон и все трубки, хотя бы раз в 2-3 дня. Тогда жалоб что что-то ломается или плохо течет, не будет! В инструкции сказано что для капучино нужно заливать обезжиренное молоко, но это не совсем правильно и не дает хороших результатов, по стандарту бариста, молоко для капучино должно быть 3,5% +-. Резюмирую: кофемашина — КЛАСС, но требует заботливых и внимательных рук.
9 лет назадОдинцово
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
- Бачок для воды вытаскивается спереди и там же есть маленькая дырочка, куда можно заливать воду. То есть бачок для воды не нужно вытаскивать полностью - немного выдвинул, влил и закрыл назад - Автоматический капучинатор делает неплохую пенку, а также можно хранить в холодильнике - Tubeless система - означает, что смолотый кофе доходит до заварочного устройства без каких-либо трубок. В кофемашинах где используются трубки, там новый смолотый кофе толкает старый и направляет в результате для заваривания старый кофе (как в мясорубке мясо толкает следующее), в результате если вы пьете кофе 1-2 раза в день, то вы постоянно пьете старый кофе, или если сменили один кофе на другой, то первые раза два вы все еще будете пить предыдущий кофе. Здесь же заварочный блок поднимается и собирает свежий кофе - Подогрев чашек - Разные уровни крепости кофе и объема воды (по 5 уровней), при этом регулировка очень удобная с помощью джойстика - Куча настроек от времени автовыключения или включения до температуры - Горячий кофе и капучино на выходе - Заварочный блок съемный, в результате легко чистить - Тише большинства других моделей (но не беззвучный, кофемолка гудит все равно довольно сильно) - Русская локализация меню - "Мой" кофе - режим с собственными настройками кофе - Автоматическая промывка - Регулировка степени помола и возможность использовать молотый кофе - Эффектный внешний вид - Регулировка жесткости воды - Регулировка высоты "кранчика" для кофе, в результате можно вставить высокую кружку или, наоборот, низкую - Одна из самых компактных моделей на рынке - Очень толковая инструкция, где написано все в деталях - По заверению производителя отсек для кофе сохраняет его аромат - Можно просто сделать горячее молоко или долить еще вспененного двойным нажатием "капучино"
Недостатки:
- Частые поломки (ответ из СЦ: Изначально эти машины комплектовались клапанами,которые очень быстро выходили из строя,по этой причине она у нас и оказалась. Производитель сделал соответствующие выводы и стал поставлять усовершенствованные клапаны, проблемы исчезли) - Цена (если сравнивать с Saeco или Jura, то там тот же функционал дороже выходит, если с Melitta или Krups, то последние два дешевле) - Насадка для горячей воды накладывается туда же, куда и автокапучинатор, т.е. их нужно менять, если нужна горячая вода, а стоит автокапучинатор. - Подогрев для чашек пассивный, т.е. он нагревается от системы нагрева воды, что приводит к тому, что он нагревается довольно долго, а так как вся система слева, то и греется он сильней слева - Быстро набираются потертости - Джойстик иногда "тупит" - крутишь в одну сторону, а он то не реагирует, то реагирует в обратном направлении, но бывает такое не так часто - Если зерна недостаточно, то она заранее об этом не сообщит, в результате это приведет к одному из двух вариантов (1: сделает слабый кофе; 2: намелет кофе и выкинет вниз в бачок для отходов и скажет насыпать еще) - Большой расход воды (ну это стоит понимать, учитывая автопромывку постоянную) - Кранчик капучинатора регулируется в длину, но повернуть в сторону его нельзя - Made in China (если кому-то важно)
Комментарий:
Так как в курсе был частых поломок данной модели, то искал уже отремонтированную модель. Так моя у меня и оказалась - ехала почти 1000 км с сервисного центра :) Да, не новая, но зато целая, готовая к длительной работе и при этом еще и дешевле :) По поводу качества кофе - стоит понимать, что комплект хороших рожковой кофеварки + кофемолки + вспенивателя молока за ту же стоимость будет давать в разы лучший кофе и капучино, но и мороки гораздо больше (собственно, с такого комплекта я и переключился, после того как замучился молоть, пересыпать, трамбовать, а потом все мыть). Поэтому если интересует вкус кофе до мелочей, то автоматическая кофемашина не ваш вариант. Но если нужен в целом вкусный кофе и минимум работы, то этот вариант ваш. Кстати, много где читал, что кнопка с двумя чашками кофе дает лишь в два раза больше воды, но доза кофе та же - чушь, просто посмотрите на кофейную таблетку, она в 2 раза толще. Очень удобно, что если кофе готов, но хочется больше воды, то можно зажать кнопку чашки с кофе и вода дольется Кофемашина очень придирчива к качеству кофе, как наверное и все, но все же - поэтому не стоит брать всякую фигню. Два основных показателя кофе - кофе должен быть качественный и свежий. Первый заранее не определить и тут методом проб и ошибок, я лично покупаю torrefacto, второй фактор легко определяется датой обжарки (считается, что зерна выдыхаются за месяц, поэтому обжарка должна быть не дольше чем месячной давности). Брать дешевый магазинный кофе, которому уже год как обжарен, нерационально - получите бурду без запаха и вкуса, еще и наверняка пережаренную (что дает невыносимую горечь). Можно брать зеленое зерно и самому жарить, но это тоже заморочено. От 23.460 отличается автокапучинатором - там он лучше. Ну а в целом - я рад покупке, кофе стал не такой вкусный как был раньше, но зато удобства и простоты добавилось очень много, сделать кофе занимает нажатие 3 кнопок (а раньше минут 5-10 возился). Капучино не очень нравится, это для гостей :)
9 лет назадТомск
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
отличная модель, полный автомат
Недостатки:
пена капучино недостаточно плотная и высокая
Комментарий:
один раз заблокировалось засохшим молоком выходное отверстие пара/горячей воды так что не работала функция капучино, прочитал форумы по симптомам было похоже на то что залип магнитный клапан, но прочистил выходное отверстие тонкой иголкой и все восстановилось
9 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Варит очень вкусный кофе( был до неё bosh) мало шумная(пробовал Boork-хлам в красивой упаковке- работа помпы как пиларама-на следующий день аж бегом вернул это произведение творца обратно в магазин), высокое качество материалов и сборки, машинка просто умница-сама скажет что ей нужно и когда,ухаживать за ней легко-стильный вид. За 4 года работы ни каких проблем не доставляла-воду использую только фильтрованную,кофе только зерновой
Недостатки:
немного дороговато оригинальнае средство от накипи
Комментарий:
отличная кофемашина -та про которую не скажешь, что зря купил
9 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Супер-машина для ежедневного использования
Недостатки:
небольшой объем емкости для молока, 99% пьем капучино.
Комментарий:
Почти два года безупречной работы и продолжает "вджобывать"
10 лет назадНижневартовск
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Но если нужен в целом вкусный кофе и минимум работы, то этот вариант ваш.\r\nКстати, много где читал, что кнопка с двумя чашками кофе дает лишь в два раза больше воды, но доза кофе та же - чушь, просто посмотрите на кофейную таблетку, она в 2 раза толще.\r\nОчень удобно, что если кофе готов, но хочется больше воды, то можно зажать кнопку чашки с кофе и вода дольется\r\nКофемашина очень придирчива к качеству кофе, как наверное и все, но все же - поэтому не стоит брать всякую фигню. Два основных показателя кофе - кофе должен быть качественный и свежий. Первый заранее не определить и тут методом проб и ошибок, я лично покупаю torrefacto, второй фактор легко определяется датой обжарки (считается, что зерна выдыхаются за месяц, поэтому обжарка должна быть не дольше чем месячной давности). Брать дешевый магазинный кофе, которому уже год как обжарен, нерационально - получите бурду без запаха и вкуса, еще и наверняка пережаренную (что дает невыносимую горечь). Можно брать зеленое зерно и самому жарить, но это тоже заморочено.\r\nОт 23.460 отличается автокапучинатором - там он лучше.\r\n\r\nНу а в целом - я рад покупке, кофе стал не такой вкусный как был раньше, но зато удобства и простоты добавилось очень много, сделать кофе занимает нажатие 3 кнопок (а раньше минут 5-10 возился). Капучино не очень нравится, это для гостей :)","pro":"- Бачок для воды вытаскивается спереди и там же есть маленькая дырочка, куда можно заливать воду. То есть бачок для воды не нужно вытаскивать полностью - немного выдвинул, влил и закрыл назад\r\n- Автоматический капучинатор делает неплохую пенку, а также можно хранить в холодильнике\r\n- Tubeless система - означает, что смолотый кофе доходит до заварочного устройства без каких-либо трубок. В кофемашинах где используются трубки, там новый смолотый кофе толкает старый и направляет в результате для заваривания старый кофе (как в мясорубке мясо толкает следующее), в результате если вы пьете кофе 1-2 раза в день, то вы постоянно пьете старый кофе, или если сменили один кофе на другой, то первые раза два вы все еще будете пить предыдущий кофе. Здесь же заварочный блок поднимается и собирает свежий кофе\r\n- Подогрев чашек\r\n- Разные уровни крепости кофе и объема воды (по 5 уровней), при этом регулировка очень удобная с помощью джойстика\r\n- Куча настроек от времени автовыключения или включения до температуры\r\n- Горячий кофе и капучино на выходе\r\n- Заварочный блок съемный, в результате легко чистить\r\n- Тише большинства других моделей (но не беззвучный, кофемолка гудит все равно довольно сильно)\r\n- Русская локализация меню\r\n- \"Мой\" кофе - режим с собственными настройками кофе\r\n- Автоматическая промывка\r\n- Регулировка степени помола и возможность использовать молотый кофе\r\n- Эффектный внешний вид\r\n- Регулировка жесткости воды\r\n- Регулировка высоты \"кранчика\" для кофе, в результате можно вставить высокую кружку или, наоборот, низкую\r\n- Одна из самых компактных моделей на рынке\r\n- Очень толковая инструкция, где написано все в деталях\r\n- По заверению производителя отсек для кофе сохраняет его аромат\r\n- Можно просто сделать горячее молоко или долить еще вспененного двойным нажатием \"капучино\"","contra":"- Частые поломки (ответ из СЦ: Изначально эти машины комплектовались клапанами,которые очень быстро выходили из строя,по этой причине она у нас и оказалась. Производитель сделал соответствующие выводы и стал поставлять усовершенствованные клапаны, проблемы исчезли)\r\n- Цена (если сравнивать с Saeco или Jura, то там тот же функционал дороже выходит, если с Melitta или Krups, то последние два дешевле)\r\n- Насадка для горячей воды накладывается туда же, куда и автокапучинатор, т.е. их нужно менять, если нужна горячая вода, а стоит автокапучинатор. \r\n- Подогрев для чашек пассивный, т.е. он нагревается от системы нагрева воды, что приводит к тому, что он нагревается довольно долго, а так как вся система слева, то и греется он сильней слева\r\n- Быстро набираются потертости\r\n- Джойстик иногда \"тупит\" - крутишь в одну сторону, а он то не реагирует, то реагирует в обратном направлении, но бывает такое не так часто\r\n- Если зерна недостаточно, то она заранее об этом не сообщит, в результате это приведет к одному из двух вариантов (1: сделает слабый кофе; 2: намелет кофе и выкинет вниз в бачок для отходов и скажет насыпать еще)\r\n- Большой расход воды (ну это стоит понимать, учитывая автопромывку постоянную)\r\n- Кранчик капучинатора регулируется в длину, но повернуть в сторону его нельзя\r\n- Made in China (если кому-то важно)","type":1,"usage":1,"votes":{"agree":8,"reject":0,"total":8,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Томск"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"54571595":{"entity":"review","id":"54571595","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":6086302,"userId":125014463,"anonymous":0,"created":1423832038000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Кофе варит отменный, включается и выключается когда скажешь, подсветка чашек очень удобна, все сообщает вовремя. НО! Очень требовательная! Сыпать исключительно хороший и качественный кофе (никакой черной карты, жокей и т.д.). Никаких засахаренных или ароматизированных зерен. К помолу очень придирчива, немного переборщишь с мелким помолом, будет ругаться и выкидывать кофе. Что бы сделать отдельно вспененное молоко, нужно что бы кофемашина хотя бы несколько минут постояла, остыла (если перед этим делали любой напиток на основе молока), иначе не будет делать. Обязательные автоматические ополаскивания при включении, выключении. Все это сделано лишь для того, что бы машина прослужила как можно дольше и приготовленный кофе не утрачивал свой вкус. Этого не стоит бояться, к этому стоит привыкнуть и относиться как к должному. Еще совет, если после приготовления кофе, делать в ближайший час добавку не планируете, включайте ополаскивание вручную, на кнопку, так кофейные масла не будут копиться внутри, а кофе всегда будет вкусным и ароматным. Так же, не забывайте чистить ее хотя бы раз в месяц внутри, споласкивать варочный блок, ну и само собой, контейнер для молока, поддон и все трубки, хотя бы раз в 2-3 дня. Тогда жалоб что что-то ломается или плохо течет, не будет! В инструкции сказано что для капучино нужно заливать обезжиренное молоко, но это не совсем правильно и не дает хороших результатов, по стандарту бариста, молоко для капучино должно быть 3,5% +-. Резюмирую: кофемашина — КЛАСС, но требует заботливых и внимательных рук.","pro":"Качество, сборка Италия (а не Китай, как кто-то писал), многофункциональность, эргономичность, итальянский дизайн и современные технологии. И конечно же, изумительный кофе на выходе!","contra":"Капризная и требовательная итальянская барышня) КапучиКо радует)","type":1,"usage":0,"votes":{"agree":5,"reject":1,"total":6,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Одинцово"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"54626452":{"entity":"review","id":"54626452","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":6086302,"userId":83214963,"anonymous":0,"created":1424070995000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Буду краток\r\nУ нас и у моих родителей данная кофе машина, в принципе всё устраивает.. ничего не ломалось \"тфу тфу тфу\".. \r\nвзял бы 2 раз? да, наверное только хочется уже модель поновее","pro":"Кофе делает хороший, вкусный, ни4его не ломалось за 4 года использования.","contra":"в кружку иногда попадают мелкие частицы кофе (какой бы помол не ставил)","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":1,"reject":0,"total":1,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Санкт-Петербург"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"63641872":{"entity":"review","id":"63641872","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":6086302,"userId":82272454,"anonymous":0,"created":1465471905000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Эта первая кофемашине поэтому сравнивать несчем. Кофе вкусный. Что еще надо !","pro":"Простая в управлении. Относительно компактная. Не очень шумная.","contra":"Корпус легко царапается. Даже если пыль стирать . Подставка нижняя из нержавейки легко царапается как от кружки так и при регулярном извлечении емкости с водой. ( Изначально проклеил полосками изоленты. место под кружку ) Вид сильно не испортил Но царапин НЕТ.","type":1,"usage":null,"votes":{"agree":1,"reject":1,"total":2,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region"},"factors":[],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"88338145":{"entity":"review","id":"88338145","isCpa":false,"recommend":true,"productId":6086302,"userId":20748280,"anonymous":0,"created":1552762268000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"До покупки кофе пил растворимый очень редко. Сейчас распробовал. Машина очень понравилась. Маркетил месяца 3.Всем рекомендую эту модель. Не пожалеете.\n\nPS: Пользуюсь более 2 лет. От машины в восторге. Очень вкусный и ароматный кофе.\nPS: На дворе 2019 год. Кофемашина, как новая. Работает исправно!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!","pro":"Не громоздкая, прекрасный дизайн ( я купил чёрного цвета), готовит очень вкусный кофе, особенно латте макиато.","contra":"От цены не в восторге... Но теперь не жалею, что купил.","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":1,"reject":0,"total":1,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Коломна"},"factors":[{"factorId":1997,"value":5,"title":"Удобное использование","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":1998,"value":5,"title":"Простота очистки","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":1996,"value":5,"title":"Вкус кофе","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"88786969":{"entity":"review","id":"88786969","isCpa":false,"recommend":true,"productId":6086302,"userId":27486733,"anonymous":0,"created":1553863344000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Резюме: семья и наши гости высоко оценили девайс. Общее мнение женщин: \"Ой, какая хорошенькая!\". Да и напиток готовит хороший, при условии хороших зерен.. :)\n---\nДобавление от 11.12.2018 г.\nПосле 8 лет эксплуатации - могу смело рекомендовать всем эту модель! Никаких поломок! Главное условие беспроблемной эксплуатации - регулярная очистка системы нагрева и подачи воды.\nВсем - приятного кофепития!!!\n---\nДобавление от 29.03.2019 г.:\nОбщее кол-во произведенных чашек кофе на текущий момент: более 12500 шт. Средняя себестоимость усредненной чашки кофе из зерен Lavazza Oro в килограммовых пачках (это - основной формат нашей семьи) - 6,5 - 7 руб. !!! \n\nКак говорится, мои рекомендации всем кофеманам !!!","pro":"Ко всем позитивным отзывам, написанным ранее, могу добавить след.:\nПеред покупкой выбирал между BOSCH (честно отработал у меня в офисе 4 года как танк, приготовив немеряное кол-во чашек кофе, никаких проблем) и Delonghi (кофемашины которой мне ближе по дизайну, нежели немецкие \"кубики\"). Решающим фактором для принятия решения явилось то, что контейнер для воды выдвигается вперед, а не вверх. Ну и позитивные отзывы на Маркете тоже принимались в расчет.\nПервый опыт эксплуатации показал \"плюсы\": \n- довольно тиха;\n- возможно применение молотого кофе (хотя иногда она на него ругается: \"слишком мелкий помол\");\n- простота приготовления капучино подкупает;\n- интерфейс понятен даже для ребенка;\n- хорошая комплектация (у меня в комплекте был весь набор фильтров, хоть мне они не нужны ввиду нулевой жесткости воды после водоподготовки).","contra":"\"Минусы\":\n- после авто-промывки приходится вытирать поверхность, т.к. водичка иногда льется мимо дырок... (у Боша такого не было);\n- полированная нержавейка требует ухода. Но это - небольшая проблема;\n- \"хобот\" для подачи молока в чашку надо было сделать длиннее, чтобы совсем не было брызг;\n- при приготовлении капучино на экране пишет \"КАПУЧИКО\" )))","type":1,"usage":2,"votes":{"agree":2,"reject":0,"total":2,"isActive":true},"photos":[],"videos":[],"provider":{"type":null,"name":null},"region":{"entity":"region","name":"Москва"},"factors":[{"factorId":1998,"value":4,"title":"Простота очистки","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":1996,"value":5,"title":"Вкус кофе","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null},{"factorId":1997,"value":5,"title":"Удобное использование","factorType":0,"count":1,"factorStatistic":null}],"orderShopId":null,"orderBusinessId":null},"123313555":{"entity":"review","id":"123313555","isCpa":false,"recommend":false,"productId":6086302,"anonymous":1,"created":1615461090000,"averageGrade":5,"comment":"Теперь пару слов из личного опыта.\nОткрыв коробку с новой кофемашиной вы можете увидеть следы от помолотого кофе, а в статистике данные о приготовлении нескольких чашек кофе! Сначала я подумал, что подсунули уже пользованный товар! :) Не пугайтесь, выяснилось, что на заводе эти кофемашины тщательно тестируют, и дегустируют качество приготовленного кофе!\nЧерез несколько месяцев нам показалось, что машина слишком часто просит очистить себя от накипи, оказалось, иногда очень полезно читать инструкцию! ) Перед началом использования, протестируйте воду на жесткость, для этого в комплекте с машиной прилагается полоска тест жесткости воды (очень похож на тест на беременность :-)) Заводские установки машины установлены на максимальную жесткость воды! У нас оказалась средняя жесткость - два красных квадратика из четырех. Выставил в настройках нужную жесткость воды, и о чудо, машина стала в два раза реже просить очисть её от накипи. Теперь о самой очистке от накипи, опять же в инструкции всё подробно описано. Средство прилагаемое в компекте расчитано на одну очистку, найти в продаже такое же сложно, поэтому купил за 490руб. в одном известном магазине электроники аналогичное Menalux MPD4R Premium, его хватает на 4 очистки.\nЕще в комплекте с машиной прилагается фильтр для смягчения воды, мы им не пользуемся, этот фильтр нужен для очень жесткой воды. Его установку тоже нужно зафиксировать в настройках кофемашины.\nКаплесборник бысто заполяется, вместо него мы используем отдельную чашку, разумеется, кому как удобно.\nВобщем, о покупке не пожалел ни разу, готовим кофе каждый день. Рекомендую.\nP.S. Подарил кофемашину любимой, - она в восторге! ))\n2021г. Кофемашина работает отлично, готовим кофе практически каждый день. Один раз прочищали каппучинатор моющим средством, пена стала хорошей.","pro":"Главное достоинство - отличное приготовление кофе, экспериментируем с различными сортами зёрен - супер! Пенка капучино средняя, но достаточная. 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