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Пользуемся год и два месяца. Семья из трех человек. Нареканий нет, ничего не ломалось, не глючило.
Когда выбирал были сомнения - не слишком ли мало функций? как будет работать сушка? не откроет ли ее ребенок?
В итоге никакими функциями не пользуемся, только режимом auto и кнопкой старт. Пока не подобрали моющее средство и дозировку - иногда включали полоскание после мойки, т.к. от посуды пахло средством.
По поводу средства - остановились на Somat, многочисленные эксперименты показали, что Finish моет хуже. После сомата не пахнет, если загрузка не полная или нет сильно грязной посуды - кладём половинку.
Посмотрел несколько отзывов, пишут, что "не все отмывает, но слышали, что есть такие, которые все отмывают". Ребята, в посудомойках нет никакой магии. Да, бывает отмывает не все. Но это сильно зависит от того, как поставите посуду - вода бьет из леек вверху и внизу, и если загрязнение "прикипело", а струя на него не попадает напрямую - конечно его не отмоет.
П.С. Может мы насвинячиваем много, но ее объема иногда бывает маловато. Если бы был четвертый член семьи, то точно пришлось бы большего размера покупать.
П.П.С. Посудомойка - это такой кайф, просто лучшее изобретение после холодильника и стиралки.
П.П.П.С
Добавляю 3 года спустя, когда эту машинку уже сняли с производства :))
Знал бы - купил другую, с ручной установкой температуры. У этой автоматика или датчик заглючили, она моет в режиме Eco и много неотмытого.
Отлично моет, хорошо выглядит, понятно управляется. Сделана в Германии, что очень заметно.
Недостатки:
Отсутствует подставка для винных бокалов
Дверца автоматически доводится при угле открытия менее ~30 градусов - то есть немного приоткрыть дверцу для вентиляции машинки после мойки не выйдет, приходится открывать широко.
Комментарий:
В целом очень доволен. Но хочу сказать, что разница между моделями SR 24E202 и SR 24E201 - очень небольшая, всего пара "условно полезных" функций. Сам хотел покупать 201, но на эту нашел большую скидку, вот и взял ее.
Главное достоинство- цена и качество. В магазине эта модель стояла рядом с Boshe, которая дороже приблизительно на 5000 р. Дверцы и внутренние ящики у этих моделей одинаковы, т.е. общие комплектующие у двух заводов. Только эта модель Siemens делается именно в Германии, а не в Польше или Китае.
Недостатки:
Программ мойки всего 3 + ополаскивание. Их совершенно достаточно. На самом деле использую только Эко и быструю мойку. Эко вместе с сушкой долгая, но качественная. А быстрая мойка хороша для свежеиспачканной, не засохшей и не жирной посуды. Очень не достаёт чего-то среднего. К тому же, как ни настраивал количество ополаскивателя всё-равно посуда им пахнет, пока не высохнет. И не совсем уверен, что этот ополаскиватель хорошо смывается. Поэтому после мойки на любом из режимов запускаю ополаскивание с половинной загрузкой, так больше вероятности того, что ополаскиватель смоется. Так же хотелось, чтобы была возможность отключить автоматическую сушку, т.к. приходится ждать, пока посуда остынет после сушки и датчики позволят запустить полоскание.
Комментарий:
То, что приборы моются в боксе - это норм. они отмываются хорошо. Не вижу смысла переплачивать за отдельную полку для них, как на моделях дороже. Это первая посудомойка. Очень доволен, чудесное изобретение, экономит уйму времени. По началу просто эйфория была от того, что больше не надо целый час намывать гору посуды, как гора с плеч. Конечно, первые мойки 3-4 придётся повозиться с настройками кол-ва ополаскивателя, соли и моющего средства, пока результат мойки Вас устроит. Я пользуюсь пока Finish, порошка засыпаю даже чуть меньше минимума - всё-равно всё отмывает. Пробовал порошок без сульфатов, но он совершенно не отмывает, остаются липкие разводы, но это лично мой недолгий опыт. Может у Вас получится мыть с безсульфатным порошком, он экологичнее, но надо повозится с настройками мойки и разными марками этих порошков и ополаскивателей к ним. На семью из двух человек вместимости хватает. У нас мойка через день приблизительно работает. Живём в студии и мойка соответственно находится прям в комнате, но дискомфорта это не доставляет. Приложение шумомера на смартфоне показывет громкость сопоставимую с шумом дождя.
Моет хорошо.Есть замок от детей.Верхняя корзина по высоте регулируется.
Недостатки:
Почему-то плохо нажимается кнопка вкл - требуется усилие.Неудобная корзинка для столовых приборов.
Комментарий:
Всего 4 программы, особого выбора нет,т.к. максимальная температура есть только в программе АВТО 45-65.А авто, это вроде как машина сама? оценивает степень загрязнения посуды и как ее лучше помыть. Правда, моет хорошо.За неделю, что мы ей пользуемся, моет отлично. Рекомендую.
Дописываю спустя , ого!, почти 4 года: достоинства те же; из недостатков - так же недовольна корзинкой, занимает много дефицитного места. Кнопка работает нормально. Сейчас чаще всего пользуюсь программой 50град эко. Машина устраивает полностью. Очень люблю ее.
Тихая стирика, качественные решетки и корзинки(Такие-же как в дорогих моделях), надежная фурнитура подключения. Малый расход воды/порошка.
Недостатки:
В своем классе недостатков нет. Разве что корзинка для столовых приборов не так удобна как выдвижная полочка, но на скок мне известно у сименса это решение используется и дорогих моделях, в то время как LG, Mile, и.т.п используют выдвижной йщик.
Комментарий:
Купили в середине августа. Все страшно отговаривали(мол, маленькая, нужно брать полноразмерку и.т.п.), но мы купили такой размер(ибо кухня не позволяет поставить больше) и не пожалели.
Теперь к делу:
По факту каждодневного использования актуальны только две программы из четырех заявленных - "ECO 50 градусов" и программа под названием "auto 45-60 градусов". Обе они при желании сокращают время стирки пополам.
Программа "ECO 50градусов" на мой взгляд, а точнее на наш с женой взгляд, самая лучшая, полная стирка на ней занимает около 3х часов вместе с сушкой, половинчатая программа соответственно 1,5 часа. При использовании хороших моющих средств (ниже я добавлю фото) отмывает идеально! Как говорится до "рипения стаканов".
Программа же 45-60 auto, это совсем уж тяжелая артиллерия, нет я не говорю что нужно запихивать в нее недельные жирные сковородки, но если вы будете целый день забивать посудомойку всем подряд, от жира до засохшего теста... будьте уверены - вечером все будет чисто(при условии трех часов мытья).
Программа 45 градусов или как мы с женой ее называем - "для сладкого", годится исключительно для бокалов, тарелок после торта, чашек из под чая и.т.п. Стирка ею занимает всего около часа и там почти отсутствует сушка.
Ну а по "полосканию" все понятно, не хотите включать машинку сегодня, просто залейте грязную посуду водой (что бы не прилипла) и постирайте завтра.
Еще там есть отсроченный старт по-моему 3 часа/6/9 или что то в этом духе, но этой функцией мы не пользуемся.
Подводя итог, скажу: машинка добротная, как говорят у нас в народе "рабочая лошадь" и "надо брать")
p.s. Внутри не фоткал, ибо вдохновение написать отзыв, пришло во время ее работы:)
Это моя первая машинка покупали на дачу бу, но она совсем как новая. Куплена была в ноябре 2016 года. Остывает все супер! На 6 человек тарелки, салатницы , бокалы и кастрюлю открыла на ура!
Хорошо моет, достаточно тихая, цена, качество сборки.
Недостатки:
Нигде не упоминается сколько соли от накипи засыпать. Хорошо, что есть лампа на панели, которая загорается, когда пора новую порцию засыпать.
Комментарий:
Покупали в М.Видео за 23 т.р. Пользуемся 3 недели и никак не нарадуемся! Это первая наша ПММ, сравнивать не с чем, но мы всем довольны. За те деньги что она стоит, считаю вполне достойный агрегат.
Читал негативные отзывы и буду опровергать. Уважаемые, читайте внимательно инструкцию! Следуйте всем рекомендациям и будет Вам счастье в виде высвободившегося времени и хорошей кожи рук. Теперь по порядку.
1. Типа плохо моет. Если ставить правильно посуду, удалив с ней предварительно остатки еды, чаинок или кофе, то отмывает она великолепно, до хруста и блеска. (Мы пользуемся таблетками финиш.) Да, машина не самая большая, не стоит пихать в неё всю посуду, что есть в доме, да ещё и с едой, которую предварительно сушили выходные, а через пару дней решили все таки помыть.
2. Якобы, громко шумит. Возможно, если ставить в спальне рядом с кроватью, то спать Вам будет не комфортно с работающей ПММ. Да, она издает звуки- это же машина, но они не такие громкие, чтобы невозможно было уснуть! Опять же, если правильно загрузить посуду, шум на порядок меньше, чем от стиралки. У нас маленький ребенок прекрасно спит в соседней с кухней комнате.
3. Типа плохое качество. Покупайте Миле или АЕГ минимум в 3-5 раз дороже и будет Вам качество. Согласен, от брака никто не застрахован, но тут как в лотерее, либо повезло, либо нет. За те деньги, что за неё просят- качество адекватное.
И повторюсь, ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО ЧИТАЙТЕ ИНСТРУКЦИЮ, соблюдайте правила подключения и эксплуатации и любая техника будет служить долго.
Моет, качество изготовления, подключение к горячей воде.
Недостатки:
Нагрев воды только до 65.
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Это первая пмм, так что сравнивать не с чем. Выбор был между BOSCH SPS 40X92RU, решил взять SIEMENS чисто из-за бренда, хотя никому не секрет, что это общий концерн на общем производстве, с разницей лишь в мелочах и в программах, о чём наверное всё-таки жалею, т.к. нет интенсивной мойки на 70 гр., хотя и на авто при 65 гр. всё нормуль. Моет чисто без потёков, посуда хрустит, узкий бокал высотой 15 см с месячным кофейно-чайным налётом случайно попавший на тест, отмылся до идеала со второго захода, думаю это нормально. По шуму, сложно сказать, кто-то там жуёт,чавкает,хлюпает - да, слышно, но не напрягает. С непривычки удивляет длительность цикла мытья, 90-120 мин, и это на всех пмм, за такое время можно и на холодной воде отмыться!!! В общем пмм доволен, но если бы при выборе учитывал наличие температурного режима, а именно 70 гр.,то выбор однозначно был бы BOSCH, и пусть на один рубь дороже! Успехов при выборе!
Самое главное это экономия ВАШЕГО ВРЕМЕНИ! Качественная сборка и стильный внешний вид. Сьемная крышка. Немецкая.
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У нас в доме уже есть техника Siemens стиральная машина и посудомойку решили взять той же фирмы. Сразу видно сделано очень качественно для людей! Подключение простое! Съёмная крышка позволяет встроить машинку в кухонную мебель! В комплекте были две таблетки Финиш для машины. С первых дней использования остался один вопрос: почему мы раньше не купили посудомойку? Это огромная экономия Вашего времени! Грязную посуду просто складываем в машину, когда накопится включаем мойку! Так же есть функция 1/2 загрузки. Для семьи из 4-х справляется на ура! Машина отмывает все до блеска! Советую эту модель!
9 лет назад, Москва
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