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Очень стильный и лаконичный дизайн,качество материалов и сборки - все на уровне стиралок премиум класса (поскольку пользуюсь машиной почти каждый день - выбирал долго,щепетильно ,вплоть до плавности открывания/закрывания отделения для порошка) . Узкая,очень удобное меню ,возможность создать 2 личные программы стирки ,программы для всяких жидких добавок(кондиционеры,концентраты итд), звуковое сопровождение ,оригинально и легко (буквально одним пальцем) открывающийся загрузочный люк ,6 кг ,1200 оборотов, оцинкованный корпус,защищенный от накипи нагреватель ,большой диаметр загрузочного люка ,самоочистка,защита от детей,ночная стирка , действительно тихая как при работе ,так и при отжиме. Ножки с контргайками ,если отрегулировать по уровню и закрепить - ничего не разболтается от вибрации ,по сравнению со старой стиралкой реально меньше шумов и вибрации.
Недостатки:
В ходе стирки сама может увеличивать время выполнения программы ,к счастью - незначительно : 5-10 минут.
Требует установки по уровню,иначе вибрирует.
Цена не провоцирует купить сразу же.
Комментарий:
Искал европейскую сборку. Сборка - Словения. Это ,конечно,не локомотив Евросоюза ,но все-таки Европа, по-любому лучше России и Китая(где,кстати собирают многие модели bosh ). Дополнительная гарантия 1 год.
На яндекс маркете увидел негативный отзыв про эту модель (собственно , из-за него и решил написать,обидно стало за любимую машинку)))
http://market.yandex.ru/model-opinions.xml?modelid=8368759&hid=90566
Странно ,у меня ничего подобного не наблюдается,возможно,машина из-за большого количества "мозгов" неправильно реагирует на слабый напор воды или установку не по уровню.
Лично я доволен на все 100,всем рекомендую!
Стиралкой по началу был очень доволен. Начала жаловаться жена на прыгающую машинку, ещё пару раз проверял как она выставлена по уровню, но это не помогло - привыкли. Стал замечать что у неё начали происходить зависания , воду наберёт и думает мин по 5 . Так стало происходить всё чаще. Представьте себе при режиме быстрой стирки за 17 отведённых минут , 15 мин находится без движения( не при выкл оборотах!). Начала портить новые брендовые вещи( при смене порошка ничего не изменилось ).
3 года сама прожила и уничтожила несколько футболок и кофт.
Сдох мотор , точнее датчик оборотов. Разобрал , думал щетки в моторе поменять , а не в этом дело((. Убедился сам , что нет защит от протечек совсем . Дно у стиралки прикрыто одним словом картонкой.
Комментарий:
Разочаровался в Горенье на всегда , так как у меня ещё и холодельник данной фирмы уже по гарантии ремонтировался и сейчас еще больше предпосылок к его уходу на свалку.
хорошо что остальная техника сименс и элетролюкс
Надеюсь , что хоть кого-то спасу от покупки не качественного товара
Европейское производство. Ничего не скрепит, оцинкована. На 1000 оборотах с места не сошла, но вибрировала. Не особо сильно. Кстати, она сильнее вибрирует, когда полощет на скорости - белье-то мокрое. При повороте крутилки показывает время программы. Можно менять температуру и обороты программы. Отключаемый отжим, остановка с водой. Память при отключении эл-ва. Продолжает стирать где остановилась. Ремень. Не нравится принцип прямого привода LG.
Недостатки:
Ошибку нагрева показала, но достирала. И грела. Я просто короткую программу задал, с увеличенным кол-вом воды. Просто не успела нагреть до нужной. Коротковаты шланги - заливной менял, сливной наращивал. При заливе и отжиме шумновато, но нормально.
Комментарий:
Здесь отзыв на почти такую же модель, только на 6,5 кг.
http://market.yandex.ru/model.xml?modelid=10450652&hid=90566
Тихая модель, компактная, но вместительная, твердо стоит на полу во время отжима. Благодаря большому люку удобно загружать и вынимать постиранную одежду. Качество стирки отличное. Очень порадовала быстрая стирка за 17 минут. Хотя в реальности машинка стирает немного дольше, это все равно быстрее большинства конкурентов. Большой выбор режимов и настроек и удобный дисплей помогут подстроить качество, скорость и особенности стирки под себя, а также следить за процессом во время стирки.
Недостатки:
Для большой семьи загрузки 6 кг может оказаться мало, но для двух-трех человек должно быть более чем достаточно.
Комментарий:
Европейская сборка (Словения) действительно оправдала ожидания. За полтора года использования ни одного нарекания работа машинки не вызвала, только положительные впечатления.
Шоком для меня стало то, что дно корпуса закрывается обычным листом ГОФРОКАРТОНА, прикрученного саморезами. Соответственно, ни о какой защите от протечек (о которой написано везде, кроме официального сайта) не может быть и речи - есть лишь защита от перелива.
Отжав картонку (она с одной стороны на саморезах, а с другой просто вставлена в пазы) увидел, что антивибрационный маты на боковых стенках наклеены ровно, а вот на задней, видимо, при установке бака, мат сдвинуло к дну и смяло - в таком состоянии он и доехал до меня. Это к вопросу "европейской сборки", которая, якобы, априори лучше российской и китайской.
Люк (рама стекла) откровенно пластмассовый, ручка-открывашка выглядит и ощущается хлипковатой. При нажатии на кнопочки дисплей очень немного, но "ходит". Крутилка-выбор режима - тоже очень легкая, боюсь, что придется охранять от младшего ребенка, может отломать.
Комментарий:
Возможно, я просто отстал от жизни, но кнопочки-ручки-дверцы и древней бюджетной Candy 2000 г., и в сменившей ее Bosh Maxx5 2008 г., выглядели гораздо надежнее, тяжелее, именно по ощущениям от материала. Не ленитесь заезжать в офлайновые магазины и "щупать" машинки перед покупкой.
// Спустя год, за неделю до конца гарантии, люк не открылся первый раз. Гарантийный мастер приехал через день и дёрнул решительнее - тогда это помогло. Спустя ещё полгода, ручка сломалась окончательно - уже негарантийный мастер разобрал люк, показал сломанную пластмассовую фиговину внутри ручки и заменил ручку на новую, правда почти черную и, на удивление, по ощущениям гораздо более тугую и крепкую (встало в 3500р). Т.е. очевидное с самого начала слабое место вылилось в реальную поломку спустя всего полтора года - ещё раз убеждаюсь и призываю всех: не ленитесь и щупайте технику "вживую" до покупки онлайн!
// 4,5 года после покупки, прямо во время отжима сдох двигатель. Как показало "вскрытие" одну из щеток двигателя вырвало с ее места, а она в свою очередь "отколупала" четыре коллекторных пластинки подряд - с одной "прогалиной" жить можно, а тут все, двигатель под замену. Новый движок - 6500 с работой. Т.е. с учетом замены ручки - 10000 уйдет в машинку при покупке за 15. Спасибо, Горенье!
Отличная модель. Удобный программатор, где видны все установки. Очень много функций и режимов, все и не используются. На отжиме вибрирует, но не перемещается. Отстирывает хорошо. Есть дополнительные программы полоскания и отжима. Стираем часто, и разные вещи, претензий к качеству работы пока нет.
Ломается. Через полгода сгорел нагревательный тэн - по гарантии поменяли. Вот сейчас опять что то случилось - на любой программе ждет несколько секунд после включения, пикает, и ... всё. Воду не набирает, ошибки ника4кие не пишет. Приплыли.
Но самое пакостное не это. Самое - на вещах появляются после стирки маленькие такие дырки. Как будто гвоздем зацепили. Иногда даже не одна а три-четыре в ряд, как будто очередью "прострелили". Мастер-гарантийщик водил водил по барабану рукой в чулке - ничего не обнаружил. А дырки появляются.
Комментарий:
На стиралках от горенья поставили жирный крест на всю оставшуюся.
Вероятно, вы пользуетесь неправильными программами стирки и слишком высокими оборотами при отжиме, высокие обороты - свыше 800, могут портить белье(!) Ознакомьтесь с инструкцией, там максимально подробные описания. С уважением, Марина.
Вероятно, вы пользуетесь неправильными программами стирки и слишком высокими оборотами при отжиме, высокие обороты - свыше 800, могут портить белье(!) Ознакомьтесь с инструкцией, там максимально подробные описания. С уважением, Марина.
вместительная при ее габаритах, качество стирки и отжима, возможность установки "своих" программ, режим самоочистки
Недостатки:
иногда "прыгает" при отжиме, но это по моему у всех стиралок с глубиной менее 50 см
Комментарий:
очень приличная стиралка европейской сборки, поставили ее на резиновые ножки, чтобы была поустойчивее, нужно просто следить, чтобы не загружать например одну тяжелую вещь и палу мелких, а делать более полную загрузку. но по моему немного "прыгают" все узкие стиралки, а так машинка нравится.
По поводу времени стирки - есть волшебная кнопочка Time и в конце концов - "прочитайте же наконец инструкцию" )))))
Купили чуть меньше 3 лет назад. После первого включения сразу включили на ркжиме самоочистки. После выполнения всей программы выдала ошибку, внимания не обратили. Начали пользоваться. Почти все режимы стирают около 2 часов, если ставить режим на сокращение времени, не прополаскивает белье. К тому же не отстирывала вещи или очень плохо. Вызвали мастера, т.к. даже с дополнительным полосканием оставалась пена и белье скрипело. Мастер сказал, что поломок не видит. Пришлось привыкать, одна стирка занимала около 3 часов. Через год после покупки сломалась-перестала греть воду, думали тен. Вызвали мастера (у нее 2 года заводской гарантии), проверил, сказал что что-то с электроникой. Поменяли плату управления. Стала стирать чуть лучше. Но, к 3 годам служьы полетел подшипник, очень сильно шумит при отжиме. Стоит ровно, а внутри все бултыхается. Не советую данную модель к покупке
Красивый дизайн, большой выбор программ и регулировок.
Недостатки:
При любом отжиме улетает. Приходиться постоянно держать. Вибрация жуткая.
Комментарий:
Все достоинства нивелирует один недостаток. Вызывали по гарантии мастера, который покачав головой сказал, что это недостаток модели и ничего сделать нельзя. Выставили по лазерному уровню. Помогло мало. Не рекомендую никому. У нас эта машинка, наверное, уже десятая. Так не прыгала ни одна.
9 лет назад, Санкт-Петербург
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Спустя ещё полгода, ручка сломалась окончательно - уже негарантийный мастер разобрал люк, показал сломанную пластмассовую фиговину внутри ручки и заменил ручку на новую, правда почти черную и, на удивление, по ощущениям гораздо более тугую и крепкую (встало в 3500р). Т.е. очевидное с самого начала слабое место вылилось в реальную поломку спустя всего полтора года - ещё раз убеждаюсь и призываю всех: не ленитесь и щупайте технику \"вживую\" до покупки онлайн!\n\n// 4,5 года после покупки, прямо во время отжима сдох двигатель. Как показало \"вскрытие\" одну из щеток двигателя вырвало с ее места, а она в свою очередь \"отколупала\" четыре коллекторных пластинки подряд - с одной \"прогалиной\" жить можно, а тут все, двигатель под замену. Новый движок - 6500 с работой. Т.е. с учетом замены ручки - 10000 уйдет в машинку при покупке за 15. 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