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1. соотношения цена/скорость
2. 512 Гбайт отличный объём.
3. Да и просто скорость чтения 2300 (А в SATA3 = 600)
Недостатки:
Не верю что есть недостатки
Комментарий:
друзья мои, я до этого пользовался обычным жёстким диском (скорость 150), а сейчас скорость 2300. Это в 15 раз быстрее. Прикиньте какое я удовольствие получаю :). Раньше мой компьютер загружался за 5 минут (со всеми службами, которых у меня по работе очень много). чтобы сходить в магазин я не выключал компьютер, чтобы по возвращению сразу продолжить работу..
Сейчас мой компьютер с теми же самыми службами запускается за 20 секунд (а голая винда меньше чем за 10 сек).
Кстати подметил, что самые дорогие детали в компьютере (процессор и этот SSD) самого маленького размера по сравнению с другими. Когда покупал, то на картинке эта SSD казалась большой, а на деле она в 2 раза меньше оперативки.
1. Самый быстрый на 2017 год для задач программиста из доступных по разумной цене
2. Intel не подводил.
3. Достоинств много, смотря с чем сравнивать (младшими братьями или конкурентами)...
Недостатки:
Недостатков не выявил.
1. Цена - так лучший товар и должен стоить дороже.
2. Мало отличий от предыдущего поколения - так мне до этого нет дела, если он сейчас самый современный, а я перехожу с компьютера 10-летней давности.
Комментарий:
Моему компьютеру было уже лет 10 (Athlon 4200). А я себе работал спокойно, программировал. Но потом выросли проекты, которые компилировались по 5 минут. Это уже серьёзно угрожало моей производительности труда. Решил что пора!
Я особо не парился выбором. Уже давно знал что нужно брать топовый Intel. Заказал, потом узнал что такое Ryzen и на время потерял спокойствие (поменять заказ или оставить Intel). Усиленно искал информацию, но пришёл к выводу что у двух конкурентов своя правда.
У Ryzen одно (но очень существенное преимущество) - количество ядер. Мне было морально тяжело сделать выбор, понимая что в ближайшем будущем многоядерность будет решающим фактором. У меня нет времени решать возможные компьютерные сложности. Надёжность также важна. Поэтому выбрал Intel.
Я выбирал компьютер для программирования (и повышения своей производительности). К сожалению обзоры не проводят сравнения для IDE. Сейчас по наблюдениям могу написать, что Intel для Visual Studio 2017 компилирует ASP MVC приложение используя не более 4 потоков, причём они загружаются не более чем на 40%.
При конвертировании видео, сразу заметно отличие 8-ми от 2-х потокового процессора(моего старого компьютера). Уверен в этой работе Ryzen с 16-ю не оставит Intel-у шансов. Но в моём случае конвертация видео очень редкая операция и не критичная.
Что касается разгона, то для меня это не имеет значения. Сейчас компьютер летает, трогать не буду. Когда не будет хватать скорости, то поэкспериментирую. Читал, что в этом intel тоже впереди конкурента.
Что касается температуры, у меня она низкая даже когда загружаю все ядра процессора (конвертацией видео). Старый процессор так нагревался, что поднося руку к отсеку стола с системником, я чувствовал достаточно тёплый воздух. Сейчас на Intel i7 7700K системник стоит там же, но тепла практически не ощущается. Понимаю, что метод не научный, но мне достаточно. Сейчас лето, в спокойном режиме 33 градуса. А куллер башня Arctic Cooling Freezer i30
1. Выгодные цены
2. От заказа до доставки в Гомель 2 дня (для меня приемлемо)
3. На удивление проблем не возникло.
Недостатки:
1. Гибкость консультантов (им нужно больше полномочий давать для решение нестандартных вопросов)
Комментарий:
Нужно было купить компьютер на базе intel i7 по частям (9 частей). Долго я мучил консультанта расспросами "что да как". Иногда казалось что меня игнорируют, но потом извинялись что не могли ответить сразу, списываю это на способ общения. Но если бы скорость ответа была бы ниже, то упустили бы клиента.
Затем я узнал про скидку, оказалось что за 3 заказа 2% скидка. Но у меня то их не было, а 2% от моей суммы - это можно за детский сад двум детям заплатить. И тут я начал искать способы, уговаривать, чтобы я получил скидку. Консультант был не приклонен (...не положено...). Через какое-то время вариант был предложен, по результату которого я всё-таки смогу дешевле купить, но вся схема отдалит сборку компьютера на 2 дня. И плюс придётся дополнительно делать доставку.
Иногда всё-таки нужно делать неожиданные подарки клиентам (если по факту для компании это ничего не будет стоить). И нам было бы приятно и компании не пришлось бы полагаться сделаю ли я следующий основной заказ.
. А ещё я очень переживал по поводу возможных проблем. Я заказывал 9 частей и вероятность проблемы с какой-нибудь сильно возрастает. К счастью компьютер запустился и этот отзыв пишу именно с него. И мне очень хочется оставаться в неведении, какой у компании гарантийный сервис :) - пусть всё работает!
Менеджеры оперативны. Сделал заказ и в течении 2 часов точно мне звонили – уточняли. При заказе через интернет нужно минимум информации.
Приятно, что приходит СМС с номером заказа и полной стоимостью. Цифры запомнить тяжело, а так СМС-ка всегда со мной и очень быстро можно посмотреть цену. А если вдруг у кого возникнут вопросы по заказу, то всегда сможете позвонить в магазин и сразу спросить: «заказ №5566 точно будет доставлен завтра, как и обещали?», а не общаться 3 минуты только чтобы понять о каком заказе идёт речь.
А цена конечно же радует. За месяц я покупал два товара в интернете и оба раза alloshop.by «выигрывал тендер» в первую очередь из-за минимальной цены.
Гарантию, чек компания предоставляет. Кажется банальностью или формальностью. Но я в ДРУГОМ специализированном интернет магазине покупал вязальную машину за 2500 $. Мне не дали гарантию. Я перезвонил, мне обещали прислать – не прислали. Второй раз позвонил, снова обещали но не прислали. Я решил не унижаться. В alloshop.by всё приветливо: вот товар, вот гарантия, вот чек.
Кстати, курьеры были добрыми. В двух заказах были разные курьеры, но они меня не торопили. Я попросил при нём проверить товар, он ответил: «пожалуйста, проверьте».
Недостатки:
К недостаткам могу отнести только то, что по первому заказу я долго не мог дозвониться в компанию. При этом автоответчик снимал трубку говорил мне, что я для компании очень важен а потом благополучно отключал меня. У меня возникло ощущение, что надо мной издеваются. В этот день мне должны были заказ доставить, а уже был вечер и я не мог понять получу ли я товар сегодня или нет. Даже написал гневное письмо, но перед отправкой решил ещё раз позвонить. И дозвонился. Я объяснил ситуацию, представитель компании извинился за то, что у компании не было возможности принять мой звонок и заверил, что мой товар сегодня будет у меня. Меня это устроило, компания реабилитировалась. Ближе к 21 часу я получил заказанный товар (т.е. в тот же день как компания и обещала). А второй заказ прошёл идеально!
Комментарий:
Я чувствую, что компания старается. И если есть какие-то мелкие недостатки, то уверен, в будущем они будут исправлены. А если сказать в общем, то компания однозначно ХОРОШАЯ. А если испортится, то я сюда вернусь и напишу другой комментарий :).
Игорь,благодарим Вас за оставленный отзыв, нам важно мнение каждого клиента. Мы прикладываем все усилия, чтобы каждый наш Клиент испытывал только положительные эмоции от сотрудничества с нами! У нас большой ассортимент товара и приемлемые цены, надеемся, что еще много полезных и нужных вещей Вы найдете у нас! С уважением, коллектив интернет - магазина alloshop.by
Игорь,благодарим Вас за оставленный отзыв, нам важно мнение каждого клиента. Мы прикладываем все усилия, чтобы каждый наш Клиент испытывал только положительные эмоции от сотрудничества с нами! У нас большой ассортимент товара и приемлемые цены, надеемся, что еще много полезных и нужных вещей Вы найдете у нас! С уважением, коллектив интернет - магазина alloshop.by
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